MN Wild 2018-19 Official Thread

Trade Coyle, great. But it won’t solve the problem.

Dump the coach, great. But it won’t solve the problem.

Line changing issues, mental lapses, slumps, defensive breakdowns, are all symptomatic.

This team has leadership issues, period. RS and ZP and MK aren’t leaders. There’s no grit or stomach on this team. It gets hard, they quit. Puck luck goes bad, they quit. They are a bunch of bad meshing, low hanging fruit, with no real crunch time goal scorers or grinders. Yeah, ZP is a cute little, scrappy player who seems to give it the good old college try. RS, yeah, he’s an effortless, high hockey iq top ten defensemen, but he’s so far past over rated it drives me bat crap crazy. MK, good solid 2 way player, but is slow and is basically a 3rd liner.

This goes like it goes with this core group. Keep doing what they are doing and we’ll keep getting what we got. A middle of the road team with absolutely no shot of getting past the first round, if the playoffs are even in the cards anymore for this group.

And for all the home team cool aid drinkers who think just getting to the playoffs is good enough, enjoy this squad till the anchor contracts of the trilogy of turds runs out. Then we can rebuild after years of this toilet bowl swirl of almost good enough to win a first round playoff series.

Sorry, tired of the same old tune.

basseyes wrote:

Trade Coyle, great. But it won’t solve the problem.

Dump the coach, great. But it won’t solve the problem.

Line changing issues, mental lapses, slumps, defensive breakdowns, are all symptomatic.

This team has leadership issues, period. RS and ZP and MK aren’t leaders. There’s no grit or stomach on this team. It gets hard, they quit. Puck luck goes bad, they quit. They are a bunch of bad meshing, low hanging fruit, with no real crunch time goal scorers or grinders. Yeah, ZP is a cute little, scrappy player who seems to give it the good old college try. RS, yeah, he’s an effortless, high hockey iq top ten defensemen, but he’s so far past over rated it drives me bat crap crazy. MK, good solid 2 way player, but is slow and is basically a 3rd liner.

This goes like it goes with this core group. Keep doing what they are doing and we’ll keep getting what we got. A middle of the road team with absolutely no shot of getting past the first round, if the playoffs are even in the cards anymore for this group.

And for all the home team cool aid drinkers who think just getting to the playoffs is good enough, enjoy this squad till the anchor contracts of the trilogy of turds runs out. Then we can rebuild after years of this toilet bowl swirl of almost good enough to win a first round playoff series.

Sorry, tired of the same old tune.

basseyes wrote:

Trade Coyle, great. But it won’t solve the problem.
Dump the coach, great. But it won’t solve the problem.

Line changing issues, mental lapses, slumps, defensive breakdowns, are all symptomatic.

This team has leadership issues, period. RS and ZP and MK aren’t leaders. There’s no grit or stomach on this team. It gets hard, they quit. Puck luck goes bad, they quit. They are a bunch of bad meshing, low hanging fruit, with no real crunch time goal scorers or grinders. Yeah, ZP is a cute little, scrappy player who seems to give it the good old college try. RS, yeah, he’s an effortless, high hockey iq top ten defensemen, but he’s so far past over rated it drives me bat crap crazy. MK, good solid 2 way player, but is slow and is basically a 3rd liner.

I am with 100% with you on all of it, my thoughts about dumping the coach and starting over is something I am hoping the New GM is feeling. He gave the owner what he wanted in trying to win with the same roster. (It’s Not working)
I am hoping that now is the time for Leopold to allow his new GM to make his own decisions on what it takes to build this team into a contender.

It should have been done two years ago.

jeff_huberty wrote:

my thoughts about dumping the coach and starting over is something I am hoping the New GM is feeling.

You really want this club to be like Chicago don’t you?

Adding insult to injury literally. Dumba will be out for a “significant” amount of time with surgery likely.
Just when he was having a breakout year, a lame injury.
The sad part is no one knows, including himself WHEN he actually got hurt.
They aren’t disclosing his injury, but I am guessing its shoulder by the way Tkatchuk gripped his shoulder with one hand and then pulled on his wrist with the other during the fight.

biggill wrote:

You really want this club to be like Chicago don’t you?

I guarantee Chicago will win their 7th cup before MN gets their first….and I don’t care who is coaching this team, it is not the coach it is the players. Fletcher is to blame for this mess and Leo should not have let it get as bad as it is. Fenton is in a tough spot, very little to spend and not much value in players that are tradeable. If it were me I’d try find a team looking for a goalie willing to give up a scoring right handed forward (maybe Fletch in Philly) and see if we can get a scoring forward for Dubs. Stalock is decent and the Finnish kid in IA is decent…we need young guys who can bury the biscuit and can give us more to build the future with IMO.

biggill wrote:

You really want this club to be like Chicago don’t you?

We’re barely ahead of Chicago in the standings as is.

Slabhunter wrote:

Fletcher is to blame for this mess and Leo should not have let it get as bad as it is.

You forgot about Risebrough. Fletcher inherited his mess too.

You say Fletch is to blame but you say Leo shouldn’t have let it get as bad as it is. Who’s really responsible then?
Where’s that Groundhog Day poster?

So they’re not an elite club, big whoop. Why can’t we all just root root root for the home team? All this groaning and moaning is just to point at the coolaid drinkers at the end of the season and say I told you so.

That’s ok though. All this chatter is good entertainment.

I blame pug. Unfortunately the pug curse doesn’t follow him across state borders.

biggill wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Slabhunter wrote:</div>
Fletcher is to blame for this mess and Leo should not have let it get as bad as it is.

You forgot about Risebrough. Fletcher inherited his mess too.

You say Fletch is to blame but you say Leo shouldn’t have let it get as bad as it is. Who’s really responsible then?
Where’s that Groundhog Day poster?

So they’re not an elite club, big whoop. Why can’t we all just root root root for the home team? All this groaning and moaning is just to point at the coolaid drinkers at the end of the season and say I told you so.

That’s ok though. All this chatter is good entertainment.

Not sure where you seen anything enjoyable or entertaining with this team, the whole concept of professional sports is winning championships.
That is the stated goal of the current owner.
When the magority of the leauge plays the game at a different pace and the Wild can not sustain their game at that pace then it is time get new younger players who can.
Sorry but participation ribbons are for losers; you want my money
Put a team that can compete on the ice.

jeff_huberty wrote:

Sorry but participation ribbons are for losers; you want my money
Put a team that can compete on the ice.

Don’t you have season tix?

biggill wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>jeff_huberty wrote:</div>
Sorry but participation ribbons are for losers; you want my money
Put a team that can compete on the ice.

Don’t you have season tix?

Key Word “HAD”

Bump;
Ohhh here it is way back here

Embarrassing loss last night to CHICAGO. Dubnyk getting pulled early in the 2nd period. Time to make some changes boys……

The longer they wait to make a move, the less trade value they will get if the team stays on this pace…

Meanwhile in the KHL, Kaprizov scored 2 more goals today and has 19 for the season already (2nd in KHL), he’s also a starter in the All-Star game coming up. There is NO rule stating the Wild can’t buy his contract out early and sign him, seems more of a gentleman’s agreement between Wild and his CSK team in KHL more than anything… Wonder how season ticket holders feel about that watching this team that can’t score?

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biggill wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>jeff_huberty wrote:</div>
my thoughts about dumping the coach and starting over is something I am hoping the New GM is feeling.

You really want this club to be like Chicago don’t you?

In what direction would you like to see your team going, ones going North the Other is heading south faster than the stock markets.

You didn’t answer the question.

biggill wrote:

You didn’t answer the question.

Better
And > You didn’t answer the question.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Meanwhile in the KHL, Kaprizov scored 2 more goals today and has 19 for the season already, he’s also a starter in the All-Star game coming up. There is NO rule stating the Wild can’t buy his contract out early and sign him, seems more of a gentleman’s agreement between Wild and his CSK team in KHL more than anything… Wonder how season ticket holders feel about that watching this team that can’t score?

I believe I have read that situation is that it’s the KHL player that has to buy himself out of a contract, so essentially any buyout of a KHL contract is treated as salary paid to the player, who then buys himself out of the contract. Which brings up the issue of the team needing enough cap space to pull this off. I also believe it has been stated that the KHL team can refuse to let the player buy out, so it’s really kind of a mess. Not sure if this is all correct, but the bottom line seemed IIRC to be that it was possible, but not easy, fast, or cheap.

Tough stretch by the Wild, but these things happen in a season. I know, I know, in Minnesota the fairweather bandwagon boys always say it’s worse here than anywhere else, but for those who really watch hockey, nearly every team has a down and out phase every year where the casual fans are writing them off and tearing up their renewal notices. TMSF.

I was at the Dallas game the other night and it was hard to point to any one thing that was holding them back. D was solid, goaltending solid, chances were there but Bishop managed to scramble multiple times and come up with saves.

The puck just isn’t going in the net right now. I know it causes casual fans to wail and gnash teeth, but they’ll straighten up and fly right soon.

To all the TMSFs out there who can’t possibly support any team that’s not a cup contender every year, the Bandwagon Boy exit doors are clearly marked. Hit the mall, buy a Caps sweater, and there you go. Congrats, bandwagon boy, “your team” finally won a Cup. Must feel great.

I like hockey and I cheer for the team that’s from where I live and watch hockey. I’ve like other teams in the past because of what they represented and I appreciate great teams and players even if they aren’t mine.

Grouse

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

The puck just isn’t going in the net right now. I know it causes casual fans to wail and gnash teeth, but they’ll straighten up and fly right soon.

To all the TMSFs out there who can’t possibly support any team that’s not a cup contender every year, the Bandwagon Boy exit doors are clearly marked. Hit the mall, buy a Caps sweater, and there you go. Congrats, bandwagon boy, “your team” finally won a Cup. Must feel great.

How do you feel about McDavid?

So Your qualified opinions are the result of having one of every color schemed jersey or cap the Wild have ever issued.

You have been pontificating over and over how good the wild are for three straight seasons and for all three seasons the results have been the same. One and done.

This season is going down the drain before the season is half over with.
They need to make changes. Period

The #1 NHL Cliche for teams on the outside looking in >>>
The puck just isn’t going in the net right now.

For those rose colored glasses fans
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=19&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiH7Ze6ysPfAhVo9YMKHUYaBIUQwqsBMBJ6BAgFEBM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DW42iiCcFbxE&usg=AOvVaw1IQ4gQNFjaoIJ8UB8X-RjB

jeff_huberty wrote:

You have been pontificating over and over how good the wild are for three straight seasons and for all three seasons the results have been the same. One and done.

That right there soaks up any minuscule amount credibility you ever had. You obviously don’t read what he writes.

Why does every hometown hockey fan have to join the pitchfork nation with you every yesr they don’t win a ship? Go start a Stanley Cup thread if you don’t like what you read here. You can drone on and on about your beloved Hawks.

Or are you on the Caps bandwagon now?

jeff_huberty wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>biggill wrote:</div>
You didn’t answer the question.

Better
And > You didn’t answer the question.

What are you? A politician?

Boy Dallas CEO took a shot at Seguin and benn…oofta
http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/25634216

You forgot the North Stars, bandwagon boy. Since you don’t know that much about hockey, I’ll explain that they were my team too.

biggill wrote:

Why does every hometown hockey fan have to join the pitchfork nation with you every yesr they don’t win a ship? Go start a Stanley Cup thread if you don’t like what you read here. You can drone on and on about your beloved Hawks.

Because he’s not a hometown fan. He’s a Bandwagon Boy. He used to love the Hawks. Now he loves the Caps. He’d like to love the Oilers and he will if they ever manage to make a playoff run.

He’s also got a Pens, Bolts, and a few other sweaters in his Amazon shopping cart. He’ll figure out which team he’s a true fan of sometime in June and then order accordingly.

Grouse

No chance Kirill is in a wild uniform anytime soon. He’s no saving grace, especially with the age of the trinity that can’t be touched. If he actually decides to play in the NHL, he won’t be able to save this current roster, unless there’s something substantial that changes in attitude, ability, puck luck or roster shifts.

Good hockey is fun to watch, I feel no need to hitch my wagon to any professional sports team. Could really care less who’s in it at the end as long as there’s lots of good hockey to watch no matter who’s playing. Yeah, we’d all love to see the wild be actually competitive post season, but that hasn’t been a reality for this team in the past and it’s looking like history is going to repetitively repeat itself for the foreseeable future, go figure.

Oof-da, you guys are rough!

You know how it is Pug. Ya all either pile on (Yo Yo ) or pledge your undying support. No room here for alternate opinions, no room for poking the guys, this is a all in thread with a bunch of GM’s.

Cut your arm and bleed Green or stay out.

11 spots from the Bottom of the barrel of all NHL teams. 4 pts from last place.

Yes, Grouse and BiGill, the Wild are sucking their way to a top draft pick.
I may have been wrong about our GM,he’s standing pat while we sink to the bottom.

High draft picks and shedding large unproductive contracts coming to arena near you.