Lol, Hossa isn’t retired, they are faking a skin condition so he can have a vacation this year and free up cap space for Sharp and Saad.
I realize Hossa isn’t retired, if you look, that article is from 2016 where the guy was speculating what to do about the cap-strapped Hawks. Kinda convenient that Hossa develops a skin reaction a year later and has to sit out the whole year don’t you think? Naw!
Nino had a mid/high ankle sprain and is likely out another few weeks…
I agree the Hossa “skin issue” is phony, but I believe there is cap relief for teams when a player is forced into retirement because of injury vs they just decide to “retire” and play elsewhere like Kovalchuk…
It sounds fishy to me too, but I don’t see how the NHL would let them get away with it. It is possible that he has a skin condition, but the severity of it could be bs. The really odd thing is that they won’t say what the condition is.
I just read a little about it. I had no idea that a skin disorder, the creeping crud, forced Tom Reid to retire.
Also, it’s the treatment that is keeping him out and it sounds eerily similar to Reid’s condition. Apparently the Drs told him the increasing amounts of steroids and meds the Drs would have to give him would kill him by age 40. And the way the Hawks talk about it Hossa’s condition, it seems the same.
So he’ll probably never play again, but can’t retire until his contract is up. These fricken owners and players and their CBAs. Apparently the new CBA punishes the teams that made these back loaded contracts if the player retires. But throw him on LTIR and it isn’t so bad. They could have grandfathered the old contracts or limited the penalty for those contracts made before the last CBA.
For those that have some time to kill and want to punish their brain there is some quality reading on CapFriendly about LTIR and calculations that affect the “relief” teams get when players are placed on it.
The misconception by many (myself included initially) was that a LTIR player’s salary comes OFF the books. That isn’t the case, but they are allowed to go OVER the cap. The calculations and description here is quite interesting:
https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq
This is an example that most closely shows the Wild’s scenario, but the Cap number would be 75 not 69, but you get the idea…
Basic Equation Example
The league upper limit is $69M. A team has an averaged club salary of $68M and a player with a 35+ contract with an AAV of $5M ($3M cap hit and $2M in performance bonuses) becomes injured and the team places him on LTIR. The LTIR relief pools are calculated as follows: 1.AAV of LTIR player is $5M
2.Cap space = $69M – $68M = $1M
3.ACSL = $69M – $1M = $68M
4.LTIR relief:
a.Base salary relief pool: $3M
b.Performance bonus pool: $2M
Once the team operates above $68M, they have $3M in salary relief, and $2M in performance bonus relief pools.
To add to this example, if the team were to recall a player from the AHL with a cap hit of $950k, the ACSL would be maximized, allowing the team to further exceed the league upper limit: 1.AAV of LTIR player is $5M
2.Cap space = $69M – $68.95M = $0.05M
3.ACSL = $69M – $0.05M = $68.95M
4.LTIR relief: $3M
a.Base salary relief pool: $3M
b.Performance bonus pool: $2M
For this reason, when a player is activated onto LTIR, one day recalls are relatively common as they can be used to maximize the ACSL.
Looks like I picked the right season to switch teams! :banana:
I thought you started a Lightning thread?
We don’t need 2 hockey posts on a fishing forum. :). Plus, I am too lazy to resurrect it.
Gutty win for the wild last night. Got to see the 3rd…kind of. It was after midnight, so I was in and out of napping.
Prospects panning out? Not seeing many highlights involving the wild young guys.
Which prospects?
I think Reilly is having a very good start to the season. Kunin is coming around after only playing in his 3rd game. 2 assists the other night.
Olofsson hasn’t looked great, but Dumba has been pretty much terrible.
The 6 game home stand is going to be nice.
Are Stewart’s days in MN numbered? He had a fight in the first period. Kind of pointless in a preseason game. His stats are terrible, clearly worst person on team… I like Stewie, I just think to get better we need to move on.
I can quote this in jest as I will admit I say a lot of things about the Wild that come back and bite me.
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Are Stewart’s days in MN numbered? He had a fight in the first period. Kind of pointless in a preseason game. His stats are terrible, clearly worst person on team… I like Stewie, I just think to get better we need to move on.
I can quote this in jest as I will admit I say a lot of things about the Wild that come back and bite me.
Hehe. It was reverse psychology. It clearly has motivated him. 
It’s pretty crazy. He also leads the league in SH% at 40% for forwards.
Zach P having back surgery tomorrow,out for at least two months.
What types of back surgare non invasive? Iread it is to be a non invasive surgery.
What types of back surgare non invasive? Iread it is to be a non invasive surgery.
Most likely what’s called a “microdiscectomy”. Small incision and then use a laser and camera to do the work.
Did a bunch of reading up on this procedure and certainly understand why Zach wanted to avoid surgery. Seems that its a high likelihood of having a herniated disk following the procedure and the more you have then you look at a more invasive procedure which could include fusion.
I think its incredibly optimistic to think Parise will be the same again. At this point, if he does play again, he will have to change his style and I really wonder how effective he would be.
He isn’t a guy that creates on his own or has an amazing shot.
The only thing positive I can think about with this latest surgery news is that we’ll likely have Kaprizov for 3 years on a rookie pay scale while we’re paying whatever the Parise LTIR settlement is…
The only thing positive I can think about with this latest surgery news is that we’ll likely have Kaprizov for 3 years on a rookie pay scale while we’re paying whatever the Parise LTIR settlement is…
IF Kaprisov ever comes. Fingers crossed, but there are no guarantees.
IF Kaprisov ever comes. Fingers crossed, but there are no guarantees.
I understand it’s probably no better than a 50/50 chance that he comes over but I just have this feeling that we’re gonna see him in a Wild sweater. He might be coming in at a time where the Wild are making some really big decisions about the younger forwards.
I think he’ll come over. It’s going to cost the Wild though if he does. Panarin was drafted in 2015 and came over as a 23 year old. He makes $6M a year.
I think his Russian handlers are sketchy and he’s going to have to see the light on that or his handlers are going to have to allow him to come over.
Hopefully it’s not a Radulov situation like some Russians who seem to come over and leave on a whim.
Joe Schmit tweeted yesterday that Parise will undergo the surgery today. So it will be at least 2 more months that we will be without him.
Tarasenko and Kuznetsov both did what Kaprizov did and will hopefully do, signed extensions in the KHL until they were 23-24 years old and then left for the NHL. He’s still a young kid and it’s obviously more comfortable playing in the country he’s lived in all his life vs come to a country he’s never been to before plus he can’t speak a word of English… but the desire to play in the best league in the world will get him over he once he’s matured… that and the stories he’ll hear from the NHL stars that go back to Russia in the off-season and talk about the good life over in the USA..
Kaprizov would be forced to sign an entry level 3 year deal, the Wild owns his rights and can’t ever lose them, so he really has no negotiating power to get more money…
The other thing is the Wild have another Russian, Sokolov. If they can convince him, or if he is any good to make the big club, that would surely help sway Kaprisov I would think.
So, now we at least have a picture of life without Parise and it could be longer than most of us would like, but I have really liked what I have seen out of Kunin. The kid is pretty gritty and showed great improved in his last 2 games. This game isn’t too big for him and he has really produced at every level he has been at. May not be a 40 goal scorer, but he will play in all the important roles down the line, PP, PK and a top 6 at some point.
When Nino comes back and it sounds like Granlund is close, this will greatly help. The home stand is a good time for these guys to get acclimated with all the lineup changes.
Its actually a good thing they haven’t played many games. They can send the kids down to Iowa to save some cap space and bring them back up the next day.
Everytime I see Kunin play, I immediately think of Mike Richards…I’d take that career projection in a heartbeat minus the addiction problem…
The silver lining is that the Wild has been in every game it’s played so far, so once we get our players back, I expect this team to take off…
Sokolov’s main issue has been his defensive play (he’s a think offense first type of player, do you really want to deter that? I wouldn’t… put him on a line with a defensive player like Koivu then)
The other issue has been his conditioning and that’s all desire & mindset…
Kaprizov would be forced to sign an entry level 3 year deal, the Wild owns his rights and can’t ever lose them, so he really has no negotiating power to get more money…
I misread something. I thought Panarin started with $6M contracts. He played 2 years under the entry level caps, although he made another $2M last year in bonuses.
So Kaprizov would have to play 2 years under a entry level deal. Maybe he’ll just play another 2 in the KHL and then weigh his options.
6 games in to the 2017-18 season and the Wild are slipping backwards.
It looks like Kunin and Ek need a lot more ice time before they can provide a consistent offensive presence. If the wild have any playoff hopes this season they are going to have to rely on defensive play and goal tending.
6 games in to the 2017-18 season and the Wild are slipping backwards.
It looks like Kunin and Ek need a lot more ice time before they can provide a consistent offensive presence. If the wild have any playoff hopes this season they are going to have to rely on defensive play and goal tending.
I don’t disagree with your assessment of Ek thus far this season, but I think you are off on Kunin. He has played 3 NHL games and only 1 of them did he look a bit out of place. His 3rd game he had 2 assists. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ek go down for a stint, but I really think weathering the storm with these guys up here now is beneficial to them and when guys get healthy they will go down the lineup to more suited roles for them at this stage of their career. Ek would do just fine with fewer minutes against 4th line guys.
A bit too early to be declaring the ship to be sinking. First off, it sounds like some are viewing this Wild team as basically a “same again” team from last year with no significant changes so they should be playing at last year’s level from game 1.
Not only did the Wild make a fair number of changes, these new line combos have had to be shuffled and reshuffled because of injuries to key players. Not exactly a recipe for consistency or ease of settling in.
When players like Nino, Granny, Parise, and Coyle go down with injuries, I don’t consider that back-sliding. Yes, some guys are going to have to try to step up. Good thing we didn’t get rid of that sandbag Stewart that’s holding back the whole offense, eh?
It’s a long season and IMO I think that pace has been the Wild’s undoing for the past 4 seasons. We just need to make the playoffs, we don’t need to win all 82.
I could see the Paraise surgery coming a mile away. As soon as he didn’t participat in camp I said that’s it, he’s going under the knife. Unfortunate but not a surprise.
Grouse
With Las vegas on a roll; any word on Tuch is he even on their roster?
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