I can’t but help think that dumping Carlson last season after week 2 was a mistake. Zimmerman has come out publicly stating that he may have acted too soon because he missed only 1 kick the rest of the season in Oakland and hasn’t missed any this year either. I realize he literally costed the Vikings a win which also costed them a playoff spot but at the time it seemed like the past problems at that position also played into it.
So the kid comes back to the bank and kicks the winning FG.
50 years as a Viking fan and I would expect nothing less.
Rumor has it the Vikings are interested in making a deal for Ramsey from the Jags.
Could be interesting! I think it would probably take Rhodes or Waynes + a pretty high draft pick.
Not sure how I feel about it, but I’m sure Zimmer is putting a pillow over his lap to hide his excitement.
I’m also in the “not sure how I feel about it” camp. What I do know is Holton Hill showed some promise last year and really f—– the team over by getting suspsended, and Rhodes hasn’t looked like a lockdown corner since he signed his big deal. Getting Hughes back this week or next week will help a lot.
I’m glad the Vikings spent $84MM on this game manager Cousins
vikes got one of if not “the best” salary cap guys in Brezinski. kirk needs to play loose which he needs to learn and things will go his way. the guy is wound up tighter than a cheap Rolex from everything I read about him. he got what the market dictated and I could care less because our cap guy always finds a way to fit contracts under the cap. good win but beating the bears will make fans believers.
vikes got one of if not “the best” salary cap guys in Brezinski. kirk needs to play loose which he needs to learn and things will go his way. the guy is wound up tighter than a cheap Rolex from everything I read about him. he got what the market dictated and I could care less because our cap guy always finds a way to fit contracts under the cap. good win but beating the bears will make fans believers.
x2. Once this offseason is completed Kirk’s deal will look great in comparison. People need to move past the $ amount, he was the best option available and no one in the front office thought they were getting a game changer. He’s a game manager who can make all the throws, but can’t carry a team most of the time. Can’t wait for next Sunday!
Sheerels and Treadwell have re-signed with the Vikes. I liked Marcus….hometown boy, but he was injured a couple times. Hopefully he can stay healthy. Threadwell made some good plays but wasn’t real consistent.
Sherels and Treadwell both picked up for special teams, and because they are affordable and familiar with the schemes. Treadwell’s already got guaranteed money paid by the Vikings, so however long he lasts on the squad is offset on next years salary cap which is nice.
Big game this week, but losing on the road at GB and Chicago would not be season enders, just need to beat them at home and dominate the rest of the schedule.
Treadwell is one of the worst football players I have ever seen. He might have had a good college career, but he will go down as one of the biggest busts in Vikings history.
Treadwell is one of the worst football players I have ever seen. He might have had a good college career, but he will go down as one of the biggest busts in Vikings history.
Meh, there’s some stiff competition in the last 20 years I’d throw out, Ponder, Troy Williamson, Erasmus James, Dimitrius Underwood, and Kenechi Udeze all could top Treadwell.
Not sure what the problem is playing at Soldier Field. Their record there the last 15 years is like 2-13 or something. And one of those wins was when Adrian was a rookie and ran for about 250 yards.
Dimitrius Underwood, and Kenechi Udeze
Underwood what a joke that was. Hard to say about Udeze isn’t that the dude who got leukemia before he really had a chance? Don’t forget about TOPPS super rookie DJ Dozier.
Hard to say about Udeze isn’t that the dude who got leukemia before he really had a chance?
Udeze played 4 subpar years before Leukemia ended his career. I was too little to remember DJ Dozier, but looks like he deserves to be in the conversation statistically. Not sure you can blame him for the Walker trade though…
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Treadwell is one of the worst football players I have ever seen. He might have had a good college career, but he will go down as one of the biggest busts in Vikings history.Meh, there’s some stiff competition in the last 20 years I’d throw out, Ponder, Troy Williamson, Erasmus James, Dimitrius Underwood, and Kenechi Udeze all could top Treadwell.
I said “one of”
I agree with your list and Williamson comes to mind about as worthless. How somebody can make it all the way to the NFL and then drop more passes than catch just blows my mind.
the Sherels and Treadwell signings make sense. As mentioned we are already paying Treadwell and they are both familiar with our system. We need WR depth desperately and as bad as Treadwell was i don’t know if a better FA out there who we are ALSO already paying. Also worth mentioning is i believe Treadwell is a pretty good blocker if I’m not mistaken which is valuable in todays NFL and especially with the way Cook has been breaking off huge runs downfield.
And with Hill suspended, Alexander missing time, and Hughes just returning, we could use some CB depth. Sherels isn’t a great CB but does meet the criteria of being a person who can play cornerback, so there’s that. He can also fill in decently for the void Beebe leaves on special teams. He’s probably well past his prime but I always liked watching Sherels return punts.
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Vikings looked like garbage. I’ve tried to support him, but Cousins isn’t the answer. Setting up to be another disappointing year.
Outplayed at every level today. Coaches to Waterboys. Junk. Expecting to see all Viqueens apparel discounted immediately, including lawn chairs……
Vikings aren’t ready this year. Cousins is terrible but I cant help but notice our offense as a whole isnt even close to as good as last year and we have a much improved line and more weapons. I think the culprit is coaching. We dont seem to adjust our schemes in game well enough. Either way we looked terrible.
Vikings aren’t ready this year. Cousins is terrible but I cant help but notice our offense as a whole isnt even close to as good as last year and we have a much improved line and more weapons. I think the culprit is coaching. We dont seem to adjust our schemes in game well enough. Either way we looked terrible.
X2
I put this one right in Zimmers lap,when the other team has your run game locked down and you continue to run reguardless, that’s just bad coaching.
It’s starting to look like the old Peterson formation 8 men in the box and were going to run anyways. Great game plan from the Head coach. 
It’s really too bad the eggs they lay aren’t golden….. I have never seen a team come up to a supposedly “big game” and completely lay an egg. History does repeat itself.
Vikings aren’t ready this year. Cousins is terrible but I cant help but notice our offense as a whole isnt even close to as good as last year and we have a much improved line and more weapons. I think the culprit is coaching. We dont seem to adjust our schemes in game well enough. Either way we looked terrible.
I am firmly in belief that the coaches AND Cousins are both big issues. In terms of the coaching, it seems like the “bigger” the game, the LESS we look prepared for it. So many times between this year and last we have looked unprepared for big spot games, which admittedly falls squarely on the coaching.
And Cousins….I have to admit that initially I was willing to give the guy a chance, taking into consideration how little he had to work with in Washington. At this point, that 5-32 or whatever it is record against winning teams is a pretty glaring issue. That isn’t a small sample size, and I think what we see is what we get with Cousins. If we wind up with another lackluster .500 or worse season, I HOPE that the Wilfs will come to their senses and give Speilman and Co. the boot.
This team sucks in anything resembling an important game.
I don’t put it all on Cousins, as our O-line again looked terrible, but Cousins continues to miss big throws. If he hits that long ball to Thielen in the first half it’s a much different game.
The Bears D line just completely dominates us, and Hicks was injured! The Chicago coaching staff just appears to be wayyy more prepared for the game than we do. Their starting QB goes down on the first drive and they continue to move the ball for most of the game. They didn’t get a lot of points, but they burned a ton of clock.
This team has no chance to compete if we can’t put together a better showing on the road, cause we sure as hell aren’t getting home field advantage if we make the playoffs.
Cousins and Zimmer both have the same problem with the bright lights. Zimmer’s record against winning teams is something like 13-27 (don’t quote me on that, but you get the idea) and 1-2 in playoff games with the win being a miracle last second TD and the losses being ugly
The QB is the most important position on the field, correct? I don’t think anyone can deny that.
Given that statement is correct, can anyone tell me why we don’t draft a QB every year until we get the guy we want? I mean seriously, why the h/ll not?
I agree with many of the recent posts here.
I think it became evident early in the game that runs of even 4-5+ yards were not going to happen and they were going to move the ball with different methods. They kept trying what wasn’t working for awhile, then get to what’s not their strength (passing) and that didn’t work either. Sacks and penalties often put them in 3rd and 12-15 or more. From what we’ve seen under Cousins these last two years, with that down and distance you’re very likely to see a pass of 8-11 yards, in front of a DB who will race up and tackle the WR prior to the first down. That play call and Cousins’ willingness to throw short so often is frustrating.
Especially after reading from some posts on here from people with some sense, I think there’s a quiet majority of fans who feel this way: They were excited about Cousins’ signing, they were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for awhile, and now they’re seeing he’s just not that great and probably not taking this team past 9-7 years at best and not beating good teams.
Now of course you have the crowd of “I knew right away it was a stupid signing.” To those people I say congrats, you are so smart. Those people are similar to the PJ Fleck haters (see Gopher football thread) in that they’re likely rooting against the Vikings/Gophers just so they can look really smart about Fleck/Cousins.
For those that know of him, John Kriesel (former state congressman and KFAN contributor) put it great on Twitter when he said you can support the Cousins signing and still not be happy with the results (something like that). The Vikes did what most MN sports teams don’t EVER do and signed the top free agent available, at arguably the most important position in sports no less. They tried, they got the best option available at the time (I’m assuming there will be a “what about Case?” follow-up to this). And it really isn’t working that well. They have a lot of flaws and he isn’t losing games single-handedly, but we did kind of pay him to win them, and they’re not.
They tried, they got the best option available at the time (I’m assuming there will be a “what about Case?” follow-up to this). And it really isn’t working that well. They have a lot of flaws and he isn’t losing games single-handedly, but we did kind of pay him to win them, and they’re not.
I think a big thing that a lot of people maybe took for granted (myself included) was the intangible affect Keenum had on the rest of the team. At the time we signed Cousins, he definitely looked like a more well rounded QB on paper, but he just doesn’t have that fire that Keenum seemed to show during big spot moments. Keenum would be visibly fired up; ready to go punch the other team square in the mouth, and the team rallied around that. How many times does Cousins have to stand at the podium after a loss with the “golly gee, I really need to play better,” attitude?
At this point it seems Cousins has lost the confidence of the rest of the team (reasonably so), and save for a miraculous 8-0 run moving forward here, I don’t see a way in which he can earn that back.
The Vikes did what most MN sports teams don’t EVER do and signed the top free agent available, at arguably the most important position in sports no less. They tried, they got the best option available at the time (I’m assuming there will be a “what about Case?” follow-up to this). And it really isn’t working that well. They have a lot of flaws and he isn’t losing games single-handedly, but we did kind of pay him to win them, and they’re not.
Except Cousins had done nothing in his career up to that point to suggest that he was worthy of that kind of financial commitment. There is a “top free agent” available every year. Some years the guy is worth it. Some years that guy is Kirk Cousins.
I just don’t think Spielman is nearly as nifty as a lot of vikes fans do. And don’t get me started on that awesome “cap guy” MN has. It’s gonna take more than shifting some numbers to overcome the $84M millstone hanging around that franchise.
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