Minnesota DNR warns Chippewa group against treaty rights

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Jon Jordan wrote:</div>
Grouse,

You have this all wrong. The DNR made the legal threats. They should have followed through. If they have no legal standing to make these threats, then they should do nothing. Period. Better yet, they should have just showed up and handed out a few tickets and confiscated a few vehicles. No warning needed here…. Grrrr

-J.

You really think that this last minute “permit” thing was the DNR’s own idea? Really? Why would they do that NOW? If they wanted to just bail out with this permit thing on their own, the could have done that any time within the last 2 weeks.

Whole thing smells to me like the Governor’s office called up the DNR and said nix the showdown at the HOD Corral for now. Go into stalling mode until we can get some treaty lawyers limbered up in the bullpen.

I know it’s hard to resist another good round of DNR bashing, but honestly you guys don’t think there are other forces at play here?

The Indians have just made it clear that they want a veto power of anything that touches dirt, water, rock, or air anywhere north of I 94 in MN. You think the Governor’s office is just saying, “No biggie, we’ll let the DNR handle it.”?

You guys have an interesting view of a DNR that runs the state on it’s own and reports to nobody.

Grouse

Yep Grouse I lean your direction. Stinks real bad at the Gov’s home over this issue.

How can you write:

“Whole thing smells to me like the Governor’s office called up the DNR and said nix the showdown”

and

“You guys have an interesting view of a DNR that runs the state on it’s own and reports to nobody.”

in the same post? Completely contradicting!

Like I said, the DNR should stick to enforcement rather than media threats.

-J.

I have not seen anything on this as of late? swept under the rug??

Finally Charged:

Authorities Charge 4 Ojibwe Treaty Rights Protesters

Updated: 01/08/2016 10:28 AM
Created: 01/08/2016 10:25 AM

Authorities have charged four Ojibwe Indians with fishing and wild rice violations stemming from a protest last summer to assert treaty rights they claim they still hold.

The four were named in complaints filed Dec. 30 in Crow Wing County District Court.

Jim Northrop, of Cloquet, and Todd Thompson, of Naytahwaush, are charged with gross misdemeanors for setting gill nets in Gull Lake during two days of protests in August. Harvey Goodsky Jr and Morningstar Shabaiash, both of McGregor, are charged with misdemeanors for harvesting wild rice without a state license on Hole in the Day Lake.

They’re represented by Frank Bibeau, executive director of the 1855 Treaty Authority. He says they’re trying to force Minnesota to recognize their rights to fish and gather under treaties with the federal government.

Treaties ….pfffffft

This is NOT going to end well. I have a feeling this will end with the Tribes having pretty much full off reservation rights to hunting and gathering based on that earlier treaty.
I hope I am wrong, but they are going to get their day in court just like they wanted. It didn’t work out well last time for the rest of us, I think history will repeat itself.

CaptainMusky wrote:

This is NOT going to end well. I have a feeling this will end with the Tribes having pretty much full off reservation rights to hunting and gathering based on that earlier treaty.
I hope I am wrong, but they are going to get their day in court just like they wanted. It didn’t work out well last time for the rest of us, I think history will repeat itself.

Agreed.

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CaptainMusky wrote:

This is NOT going to end well. I have a feeling this will end with the Tribes having pretty much full off reservation rights to hunting and gathering based on that earlier treaty.
I hope I am wrong, but they are going to get their day in court just like they wanted. It didn’t work out well last time for the rest of us, I think history will repeat itself.

That’s what happened in Wisconsin.