Minnesota 2016 Fishing Opener

  • BrianF
    Posts: 765
    #1599858

    Okay, I need to rant. Just realized today that the 2016 MN fishing opener is a week LATER than normal. Now set for the weekend after Mothers Day. What’s up with that? Why push the season back even further when our winters are getting shorter and ice out coming earlier? If the DNR is worried about anglers being turned loose and over-exploiting a species during the spawn – any species – have a C&R only season until the perceived risk is over. Simple as that.

    The weather across the upper Midwest is supposed to continue to be unseasonably warm the rest of the winter and spring due to the persistent El Niño conditions in the Pacific. If that’s the case, and ice out comes unusually early as expected, how do we set the wheels in motion to have an earlier fishing opener like was done in 2012? Good lord, at least move it back to where it was for the last several decades.

    End of rant, but I trust others feel the same?

    puddlepounder
    Cove Bay Mille Lacs lake MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1599862

    Fishing opener, as with deer hunting opener, can’t be before a certain date if the 1st of the month is on a certain day of the week. There is a formula that they use. They just don’t throw a dart at the calendar. I haven’t even looked at may yet to see when opener is. When you live on the lake, it’s just another Saturday, just a little more crowded. As far as early ice out, that hasn’t been the case here on mille lacs. Two years ago, ice out wasn’t until the Thursday after opener.

    perchhead
    Posts: 329
    #1599863

    Fishing opener is always has been for as long as I can remember 2 weeks before Memorial weekend!

    eyekatcher
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 966
    #1599865

    That’s all wrong.

    Mother’s day is the second Sunday in May

    Fishing opener is always the second Saturday in May.

    Only when May begins on a Sunday are they not on the same weekend.

    And then the opener is the 14th, the latest possible date for a
    second Saturday.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11650
    #1599962

    x2 on this.

    That’s all wrong.

    Mother’s day is the second Sunday in May

    Fishing opener is always the second Saturday in May.

    Only when May begins on a Sunday are they not on the same weekend.

    And then the opener is the 14th, the latest possible date for a
    second Saturday.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1599974

    Not that I know what an “opener” is, but doesn’t this happen every 6-7 years? I recall posts about this from the past.

    Jeff mattingly
    Lonsdale, Mn
    Posts: 515
    #1599976

    “Fishing opener, as with deer hunting opener, can’t be before a certain date if the 1st of the month is on a certain day of the week. There is a formula that they use. They just don’t throw a dart at the calendar. I haven’t even looked at may yet to see when opener is. When you live on the lake, it’s just another Saturday, just a little more crowded. As far as early ice out, that hasn’t been the case here on mille lacs. Two years ago, ice out wasn’t until the Thursday after opener”

    X2. To all others I have not missed a fishing opener in 25 years. In 2010 it was on May 15th. I know in my family where my mother is fully aware that every so often there is fishing opener not on mothers day weekend, like it is in 2016 on may 14th. If you remember either Dayton or Tim pawlenty was trying to pass a vote making fishing opener a week later, but it never passed. I fish near Longville,MN and the ice out varies. We have had better luck on bigger eyes on the earlier start dates, but the later dates have produced 1) warmer weather 2) more hungry male eyes for the frying pan 3) you have a better chance of getting the crappies up shallow.

    So for me fishing opener has always landed between the 9-15th of May. Which is fine by me, and expecially my mom who get to spend a mother’s day with her husband and sons.

    Also, by my calculations opener will be May 13th 2017, and May 12th 2018, May 11th 2019, May 9th 2020, May 15th 2021. So there is a pattern

    g-no
    Minnesota
    Posts: 52
    #1599986

    The “MN Fishing opener” is set by statute:

    97C.395 OPEN SEASONS FOR ANGLING.
    Subdivision 1.Dates for certain species. (a) The open seasons to take fish by angling are as follows:
    (1) for walleye, sauger, northern pike, muskellunge, largemouth bass, and smallmouth bass, the Saturday two weeks prior to the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend to the last Sunday in February

    BrianF
    Posts: 765
    #1599995

    Set aside Mother’s Day for a moment, let me ask a question that gets to the heart of the matter: Why have a closed season for any popular sport fishing species at all?

    If worried about harvest – or specifically over-harvest – the DNR already has tools at their disposal to address the issue. They can use C&R only regs, harvest regs, slot limits, length limits – whatever is needed. With these tools available, why restrict us from angling during certain periods of the year?

    steve-fellegy
    Resides on the North Shores of Mille Lacs--guiding on Farm Island these days
    Posts: 1294
    #1600016

    The “MN Fishing opener” is set by statute:

    97C.395 OPEN SEASONS FOR ANGLING.
    Subdivision 1.Dates for certain species. (a) The open seasons to take fish by angling are as follows:
    (1) for walleye, sauger, northern pike, muskellunge, largemouth bass, and smallmouth bass, the Saturday two weeks prior to the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend to the last Sunday in February

    Before this set of scheduling rules were in place, it was the “closest Saturday to May 15th”. That meant that some years, the Opener was the week before Memorial Day weekend–causing lots of arguments for people that had “standing/annual” reservations for the “2nd weekend” and “Memorial Day weekend”. As a resort owner back then….it was a NIGHTMARE to deal with those years/reservations/customers etc. Tourism lobbied for the current scheduling statute….thus insuring there would be THREE weekends including the Opener and Memorial Day weekend.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1600019

    Set aside Mother’s Day for a moment, let me ask a question that gets to the heart of the matter: Why have a closed season for any popular sport fishing species at all?

    If worried about harvest – or specifically over-harvest – the DNR already has tools at their disposal to address the issue. They can use C&R only regs, harvest regs, slot limits, length limits – whatever is needed. With these tools available, why restrict us from angling during certain periods of the year?

    I would guess so that you do not disturb the species during a vulnerable time of year. I.e. Spawn.

    Yes the season is open to limited harvest on some border waters, but time has proven that the pressure doesn’t have a significant affect on the species in rose bodies of water. We all se how fragile some bodies of water are.

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1784
    #1600191

    Set aside Mother’s Day for a moment, let me ask a question that gets to the heart of the matter: Why have a closed season for any popular sport fishing species at all?

    If worried about harvest – or specifically over-harvest – the DNR already has tools at their disposal to address the issue. They can use C&R only regs, harvest regs, slot limits, length limits – whatever is needed. With these tools available, why restrict us from angling during certain periods of the year?

    I think this is a very good question where the MN DNR does not give us a satisfactory answer. They claim it’s because as biggill wrote that late winter is a “vulnerable time” for the fish. I believe the science we know refutes that claim. Catch and release fishing doesn’t hurt anything when the water temps are cold. Fish in some lakes might be stressed from oxygen depletion, but those fish become lethargic and very difficult to catch. By the time fish get enough oxygen to begin normal feeding again they are perfectly fine. Like I said before, catch and release fishing doesn’t hurt anything when the water temps are cold. There is no good reason why immediate catch and release fishing with artificial baits is outlawed.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1600194

    Yes the season is open to limited harvest on some border waters, but time has proven that the pressure doesn’t have a significant affect on the species in rose bodies of water. We all se how fragile some bodies of water are.

    BG Lakes and Rivers are two very very different animals.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1600195

    Yes the season is open to limited harvest on some border waters, but time has proven that the pressure doesn’t have a significant affect on the species in rose bodies of water. We all se how fragile some bodies of water are.

    BG Lakes and Rivers are two very very different animals.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1600196

    I think at this point it is such a tradition built into the culture that even if research supported that closed seasons do nothing, they wouldn’t change it.

    The opener is so anticipated and talked about that it may serve sort of as marketing and get people annually excited. Not going to take that away when participation is declining.

    Just a thought…

    hottoddytipup
    Rogers
    Posts: 111
    #1600200

    Not to switch topic here but…

    Where is everyone heading this year for opener? I will be fishing Leech with some friends, or night fishing Pelican (Brainerd) with the old man. Cannot wait for the ice to go and get the boat out of storage.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1600204

    ^^^^ Does that sort of show you what I’m saying?

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1600205

    Not that I know what an “opener” is, but doesn’t this happen every 6-7 years? I recall posts about this from the past.

    Yes it does…. do you really think I would have gotten married on the opener ? doah May 8th, 1993 was a saturday and the opener was the 15th. blush

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1600206

    As far as closing the season.. probably giving rescue personnel and hospitals a break… can you imagine how many idiots would be in their boat doing 50 and hitting chunks of floating ice… let alone those who would be “breaking” the ice in order to get out. I could see a dude ice fishing and someone else breaking his ice up with a big boat and sinking him… doah

    chomps
    Sioux City IA
    Posts: 3974
    #1600207

    Yeah just go to the Dakotas to fish after ice out.

    sticker
    StillwaterMN/Ottertail county
    Posts: 4418
    #1600208

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Brian Fitzpatrick wrote:</div>
    Set aside Mother’s Day for a moment, let me ask a question that gets to the heart of the matter: Why have a closed season for any popular sport fishing species at all?

    If worried about harvest – or specifically over-harvest – the DNR already has tools at their disposal to address the issue. They can use C&R only regs, harvest regs, slot limits, length limits – whatever is needed. With these tools available, why restrict us from angling during certain periods of the year?

    I think this is a very good question where the MN DNR does not give us a satisfactory answer. They claim it’s because as biggill wrote that late winter is a “vulnerable time” for the fish. I believe the science we know refutes that claim. Catch and release fishing doesn’t hurt anything when the water temps are cold. Fish in some lakes might be stressed from oxygen depletion, but those fish become lethargic and very difficult to catch. By the time fish get enough oxygen to begin normal feeding again they are perfectly fine. Like I said before, catch and release fishing doesn’t hurt anything when the water temps are cold. There is no good reason why immediate catch and release fishing with artificial baits is outlawed.

    I couldn’t disagree with this more. Harassing fish during the spawn absolutely does affect them. C&R fishing during the season is great, but harassing them during spawning is just plain senseless!

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18625
    #1600211

    The state already has a location to harass and deplete spawning eyes. That’s enough.

    Jeff Fitzpatrick
    Posts: 54
    #1600244

    As far as bass go, the opener often lands right on or before the spawn. The wave of fishing pressure and tournaments created by the opener seems counterproductive to me… At least if protecting spawning fish is the goal.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1600255

    hah Bass ? crazy Who let you in ?:???: devil jester

    puddlepounder
    Cove Bay Mille Lacs lake MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1600277

    Bass……IT’S WHAT’S FOR DINNER jester

    c_w
    central MN
    Posts: 202
    #1600315

    hah Bass ? crazy Who let you in ?:???: devil jester

    Bass……IT’S WHAT’S FOR DINNER jester

    Coming from two guys who have connections to the one lake that’s going to receive the most financial help from bass guys this year.. SMH.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1600333

    I am guessing I won’t get 1 plugged nickle out of the deal… crazy doah jester Actually…. I enjoy catching the bronze footballs alot toast

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #1600338

    Coming from two guys who have connections to the one lake that’s going to receive the most financial help from bass guys this year.. SMH.

    The tribal casino hosting the event stands to make the most financially. Area businesses??? Who knows…. I doubt these guys are going to hire a launch for a day. whistling

    -J.

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1784
    #1600430

    I couldn’t disagree with this more. Harassing fish during the spawn absolutely does affect them. C&R fishing during the season is great, but harassing them during spawning is just plain senseless!

    Who is the “them” you speak of? Walleye, Pike, Bass, Steelhead. Once you answer that then tell me how they are they are negatively affected by immediate catch and release with artificial lures during their spawn?

    Walleye don’t successfully spawn in most MN water. Walleyes that are “harassed” for the purpose of state stocking have fry that survive just fine in our hatcheries. Where is the evidence that it is any different for walleye’s that are immediately caught and released with artificial lures in bodies of water that walleyes spawn successfully? Is there any at all? I’m not a walleye guy so maybe there is evidence, but I doubt it. Also it is my understanding that once walleyes begin spawning they become very difficult to catch for a while.

    The trend in bass fishing, which I am familiar with, has gone to allowing at a minimum catch and release fishing during the spawn because immediate catch and release fishing with artificial lures does no harm to the resource as a whole. Your argument just isn’t true when it comes to largemouth bass.

    I don’t understand why we even have a closed season for pike.

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