Mille Lacs Walleye Harvest Discrimination

As I introduce this ludicrous post I will give full disclosure… I have had a few Summit Saga IPA’s on this Friday 9/11.

Regarding the fairness of walleye harvest and eating?

I just stepped out on my deck to smoke a heater and within 20 feet an eagle flys by with an 18-20″ walleye locked in its talons. I know what I saw, eagles are everywhere around here and I’ve seen a walleye before…a couple times.

And not to “ruffle feathers” although it always will, why the white man is not allowed to eat the Mille Lacs walleye..?

About 100 yards out a couple white pelicans dropped into the lake facing a strong wind from the south, no doubt scooping up walleyes with which they not worry about regulations.

Is there any purpose or meaning in what I’m posting?

If anyone is wondering about the best spot for walleye on the west side…I suggest JJ’S Birds Nest.

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Well, as far as the Eagle goes, if it loses a tail feather the Walleye is charged against the bands allowance. If not then it’s considered “hooking mortality”.

Dutchboy wrote:

Well, as far as the Eagle goes, if it loses a tail feather the Walleye is charged against the bands allowance. If not then it’s considered “hooking mortality”.

Doubt that.. Any other American allowed harvest of an eagle? Any American allowed behind Native closed doors?

I was waiting for the part where you wrote that the eagle dropped the walleye on your deck!

White privilege. Look how that whit pelican just took advantage of the situation. A black pelican didn’t put in the effort to go get that walleye.

joneser wrote:

Someone should send them a history book

And who exactly wrote those history books?

Couple weeks I’m going up to the rez to see the Uncle. I’ll let em know how y’all feel.

joneser wrote:

Haha! Technically, if that eagle dropped that walleye on your front yard it’s a legal fish since it’s no longer a Mille Lacs walleye. The state limit is six with one over twenty so at that point yell at the eagle to go bring back five more!

Haha, I should’ve yelled at the eagle for more.

Technically I might still have a legal morass as my front yard (for some it would be the back yard) is directly on the Mille Lacs shore.

I did actually debate that in my head if in fact the eagle deposited that walleye on my deck. Would I have immediately flung it back into the lake? Or perhaps carried inside and laid it upon my cutting board?

If the latter, my moral compass would have compelled me to call a CO and turn myself in. Guilty, and I have the evidence for conviction still flopping around on my kitchen floor.

Jeepers, this thread spun too serious.

My original intent was merely satirical folly, motivated by Friday night “fire water” that which I imbibed.

And I saw the eagle and the walleye, they were the “spirits” of the lake.

joneser wrote:

Something that a lot of people don’t know is that Vineland and Kathio weren’t Ojibwe until around 1800. Prior to that they were Sioux villages. The Ojibwe came in and massacred the Sioux and drove them westward and took the land for themselves. There are several spots in the wider Mille Lacs area named after some of these battles; Battle Point on Bay Lake being one example. Ojibwe warriors canoed in on sleeping Sioux warriors there and massacred them. The Ojibwe were able to trade for guns earlier than the Sioux, and after fighting numerous skirmishes out East were better experienced and trained for battle with the Sioux.

When the Ojibwe elders signed the 1837 legally gaining rights to the land by the US Government it’s important to know that those same elders were not even born or raised on that land. They were young men when they left where they had grown up out East and part of the tribe as warriors when they invaded the area and through brutal force took Vineland and Kathio and the territory around Mille Lacs.

That’s why I always get a kick whenever the bands start going on about the Ashinabe creator having always relied on them as protectors of the lake and it’s resources.

BS! Your people came in with guns and pushed the people who lived there off it the same as the white man did that even still today you bitch about acting like that’s what they did to you which isn’t true. They got pushed out by natives and they pushed out natives and they just so happened to be squatting on the ground when the US Government was realizing the huge influx of settlers about to hit the area and didn’t have resources or the want at the time to fight them. That treaty was signed with the US very much so fearing and respecting the Ojibwe and not wanting to fight them. The Ojibwe came to the table looked at as equals and were given a lot of land that they knew wasn’t theirs, they stole it from the Sioux.

The narrative that exists today of the Ojibwe being bullied into that treaty and getting ripped off, how they act like they were victims, is pure and utter horseshit. Someone should send them a history book in hopes that they’ll read it and shut up about that treaty….since in all actuality it was them getting a hell of a deal! They made out like bandits….probably because that’s what they literally were, bandits.

Joneser, this is absolutely correct as most of Minnesota was Dakota(Sioux) until the Ojibwe drove them off. I have a book written about the history of Trempealeau County in West Central Wisconsin. There is a chapter discussing the native Indian population, stating that they were mostly of the Dakota tribe headquartered on the shores of what is now Lake Mille Lacs. Here is a link to the book reference: http://trempealeau.wigenweb.org/histories/1917trempco/chapter5/03dakota.htm

Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:

I just stepped out on my deck to smoke a heater and within 20 feet an eagle flys by with an 18-20″ walleye locked in its talons. I know what I saw, eagles are everywhere around here and I’ve seen a walleye before…a couple times.
And not to “ruffle feathers” although it always will, why the white man is not allowed to eat the Mille Lacs walleye..?

Who came first?
The Eagles The Ashinabe or The Natives?