Mille Lacs – Netting 2023

Al Linder said what?

Work travels took me along the East side today. Cedar Creek and Liberty accesses had a couple boats out and one that had come in with nets. GLIFWC was at Liberty. I didn’t see anyone official at Cedar Creek.

Tom schmitt wrote:

In my opinion the tribes aren’t really as concerned about substance fishing or preserving their costums as they are about netting because they can and it pisses us off.

I would guess it is more about income generation than food for the tribe. I’d bet a high percentage of walleyes they take are sold to restaurants. Something to keep in mind next time you or your friends and family are considering ordering walleye from a restaurant.

Makes you wonder how many walleye sandwiches are actually pike sandwiches. Not that there is anything wrong with pike but I wouldn’t want a 35+ incher for dinner.

I think the only ones trying to pizz people off are the ones bragging on social media like the ones that spear big Muskies or show piles and piles of walleyes.

I dont think perch would get caught in a gill net theyre too small.

U fellas getting butthurt over eyeball holds on dead fish takes the cake for me here

Deuces wrote:

U fellas getting butthurt over eyeball holds on dead fish takes the cake for me here

Happy to see I’m not the only one

Look again. Sure don’t look dead to me.

LabDaddy1 wrote:

Look again. Sure don’t look dead to me.

Well if they are not – They soon will be.

Not sure who you are referring to “you fellas.”

It’s been proved many times that the spearing/netting quota has been exceeded on certain lakes but no consequences to the violators. There should be fines or loss of privileges to the treaty and law breakers.
This happens in MN, WI, and MI.
JMO

One of the best Mille Lacs walleye year classes/hatches in recent memory occurred in 2013 which also happened to be an extremely late ice out year and thus had a very minor period of netting compared to a normal year. Coincidence?

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

One of the best Mille Lacs <em class=”ido-tag-em”>walleye year classes/hatches in recent memory occurred in 2013 which also happened to be an extremely late ice out year and thus had a very minor period of netting compared to a normal year. Coincidence?

We will see some anecdotal evidence this year since it’s a late ice out, with a week or netting.

Ripjiggen wrote:

Al Linder said what?

As I understood he said the walleye spawn was just before or after the perch and shiner spawn.
My theory is the very big highest producer females are caught in the walleye nets.

CaptainMusky wrote:

I dont think perch would get caught in a gill net theyre too small.

You don’t think the big jumbo perch could get caught in gill net?
I guess we would have to see their nets.

Tom schmitt wrote:

You don’t think the big jumbo <em class=”ido-tag-em”>perch could get caught in gill net?
I guess we would have to see their nets.

I was told there are no jumbos left in ML. How many walleyes under 12 inches do you see in those nets? Of all the photos I have seen over the years I have never seen one that small caught in a net.

Shiners definitely not in the nets.
Perch are rebounding now.

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

One of the best Mille Lacs <em class=”ido-tag-em”>walleye year classes/hatches in recent memory occurred in 2013 which also happened to be an extremely late ice out year and thus had a very minor period of netting compared to a normal year. Coincidence?

Absolutly no effect on Walleye population from netting…Just ask the DNR. The lack of Walleye is attributed to….

1) Muskie eating everything including 300 lb people in the lake.
2) Aliens abducting the Walleye.
3) Young Walleye not reaching maturity due to fish Covid.
4) Over-harvest by anglers.
5) Under-harvest by natives.
6) Lack of forage.
7) Over abundance of forage.
8) Tournaments.
9) Cloudy days.
10) Sunny days.
11) To many days that end in the letter Y.
12) The North end sand gets to hot.
13) Locals catch to many fish.
14) To much pressure.
15) Electronics are to good.

As you can see there are a myriad of things that can cause a fluctuation in Walleye populations. But, remember the DNR emphatically states netting does no harm.

Dutchboy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Gitchi Gummi wrote:</div>
One of the best Mille Lacs <em class=”ido-tag-em”>walleye year classes/hatches in recent memory occurred in 2013 which also happened to be an extremely late ice out year and thus had a very minor period of netting compared to a normal year. Coincidence?

Absolutly no effect on Walleye population from netting…Just ask the DNR. The lack of Walleye is attributed to….

1) Muskie eating everything including 300 lb people in the lake.
2) Aliens abducting the Walleye.
3) Young Walleye not reaching maturity due to fish Covid.
4) Over-harvest by anglers.
5) Under-harvest by natives.
6) Lack of forage.
7) Over abundance of forage.
8) Tournaments.
9) Cloudy days.
10) Sunny days.
11) To many days that end in the letter Y.
12) The North end sand gets to hot.
13) Locals catch to many fish.
14) To much pressure.
15) Electronics are to good.

As you can see there are a myriad of things that can cause a fluctuation in Walleye populations. But, remember the DNR emphatically states netting does no harm.

this one has to be the funniest post I have seen here in a long time (or ever)

Dutchboy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Gitchi Gummi wrote:</div>
One of the best Mille Lacs <em class=”ido-tag-em”>walleye year classes/hatches in recent memory occurred in 2013 which also happened to be an extremely late ice out year and thus had a very minor period of netting compared to a normal year. Coincidence?

Absolutly no effect on Walleye population from netting…Just ask the DNR. The lack of Walleye is attributed to….

1) Muskie eating everything including 300 lb people in the lake.
2) Aliens abducting the Walleye.
3) Young Walleye not reaching maturity due to fish Covid.
4) Over-harvest by anglers.
5) Under-harvest by natives.
6) Lack of forage.
7) Over abundance of forage.
8) Tournaments.
9) Cloudy days.
10) Sunny days.
11) To many days that end in the letter Y.
12) The North end sand gets to hot.
13) Locals catch to many fish.
14) To much pressure.
15) Electronics are to good.

As you can see there are a myriad of things that can cause a fluctuation in Walleye populations. But, remember the DNR emphatically states netting does no harm.

16. Global warming
17. Pandemic
18. Supply chain issues
19. Lack of workers (they’re all fishing)

Article 1. The said Chippewa nation cede to the United States all the tract of country included within the following boundaries:

Beginning at the junction of the Crow Wing and Mississippi rivers, between twenty and thirty miles above where the Mississippi is crossed by the forty-sixth parallel of north latitude, and running thence to the north point of Lake St. Croix, one of the sources of the St. Croix river; thence to and along the dividing ridge between the waters of Lake Superior and those of the Mississippi, to the sources of the Ocha-suasepe a tributary of the Chippewa river; thence to a point on the Chippewa river, twenty miles below the outlet of Lake De Flambeau; thence to the junction of the Wisconsin and Pelican rivers; thence on an east course twenty-five miles; thence southerly, on a course parallel with that of the Wisconsin river, to the line dividing the territories of the Chippewas and Menominies; thence to the Plover Portage; thence along the southern boundary of the Chippewa country, to the commencement of the boundary line dividing it from that of the Sioux, half a days march below the falls on the Chippewa river; thence with said boundary line to the mouth of Wah-tap river; at its junction with the Mississippi; and thence up the Mississippi to the place of beginning.

Article 5. The privilege of hunting, fishing, and gathering the wild rice, upon the lands, the rivers and the lakes included in the territory ceded, is guaranteed to the Indians, during the pleasure of the President of the United States.

Article 6. This treaty shall be obligatory from and after its ratification by the President and Senate of the United States.

So what did we give them in exchange for the land? And how long was the term of payment? Did the natives agree to $1 million a year forever to the end of time? If we did we did and we need to honor that treaty. However if that treaty was amended at any point throughout the years then thats a different thing.

I don’t quite understand the clawing back of land that was sold as part of the treaty. If the South shore of Mille Lacs was to be part of the original reservation how did it become that settlement was allowed there?

Fortunately anyone reading this thread today will be long dead before the issue is 100% settled in the courts.