Metro Public Land Buck Year 5

  • BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 12373
    #2308490

    Well here we are, once again posting a hunting report after hunting season. Which for those of you just looking for the finished product, and not how the sausage gets made, means I did not fill my bow tag in the metro again this year. Not really disappointed though, as I had plenty of opportunities, just not for the bucks I’m after. Which might be a good starting point, I have been lucky and skilled enough to put a lot of deer down, and at this point in my hunting life I absolutely want meat in the freezer, but with a couple caveats. I don’t shoot little bucks (healthy ones anyway) and I don’t shoot fawns. Even on highly pressured public, I’m convinced this results in big buck opportunities year over year, and this year was no different.

    First let me recap scouting, I had virtually no preseason (summer) scouting and I didn’t hang a camera either. You can look at last years report for the camera portion, and the preseason scouting for me is typically walks at daybreak but my 3 year old decided to get on Dad’s early riser schedule this year. And while I could put that on my FW, she is a night owl, and needs her morning sleep…or we all pay for it! (jk if you read this babe) jester . The little bit of scouting I did do, led to another meeting with an absolute moose, that has me looking forward to a whole different approach and effort to be made next September, but for this year it was business as usual in October without my preferred amount of prep.

    One benefit of Metro Public hunting is the deer are acclimated to humans, they live amongst us, so in season scouting doesn’t blow things out like it might elsewhere. So late September is when I got pretty serious and started logging some daylight miles. The other nice thing about hunting these big metro properties, is you start to get to know them well enough that you can keep going to new spots and fall back on historic spots when the new ones don’t pan out. At one point I put 4 miles on scouting new stuff, and all I found was cat scat (there’s been Mt Lion sightings on camera in the area fairly frequently) so I marked some stuff to come check out another year and wrote it off for this one. The ironic thing about that, is I think I had a showdown with that kitty when I was hunting about 5 miles away a few nights later. I didn’t have my headlamp or my pistol, so I can’t be sure, but something was close and growlroaring at about 20 yards when I got out of my stand and I’ve never heard anything like that in all my years. So anyways a fat man with a climber and a crossbow can still be pretty quick walking out of the woods! whistling

    Mid October rolls around and I don’t have any good intel on a big buck yet, and my hunts and scouting have been ruined by cats, dogs (yotes) and quite a few real special humans both hunters and civilians. As they say in the south, bless their hearts. I hadn’t been hunting as much as I’d like, but when I got out I was seeing deer, just not the one I’m after. We are approaching the end of October and it was all minutes in the woods that I could spare, and it was going. Grunted a spike in midday, which was cool and would have been an easy shot if I wanted it. Then a day or two later had basket 8, that I think will be ready for the fixed blade next year, broadside in a clear lane at 15 yards. And then possibly had 2 opportunities that were JUST a bit too early, one was when I was on the ground at about 8 yards and was a shooter, the other was at about 20 yards and was either the basket 8 or a shooter. But in both cases it was about 5-10 minutes too early and dark enough that I couldn’t clearly make out the headgear. Plus, while I love my Ravin, the scope takes a few minutes of shooting light off each end of the day. After that I got out a few times up north before rifle season (let 4 small bucks walk), then again a few times in later November and December, but we also had some family travels and work requirements that ended my season a little earlier than I would have liked. So despite not putting one down, I still had a great season, learned a bit more, found a few new spots, had some really fun hunts, and I know there’s a few monsters still walking!

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18690
    #2308491

    Good read. Detailed and thoughtful.

    Best part is being stalked by an angry kitty. jester

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 6241
    #2308496

    Nice write up Big Werm. Having little kids definitely crimps the time a guy has. But I am on the verge of some serious hunting with my son in the coming years and can’t wait.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24506
    #2308500

    As always Werm you put in the work but it just hasn’t panned out for you the last couple years. It’s obvious you aren’t just looking to put meat in the freezer because you must obviously have limited space like the rest of us with our half cow and entire hog you don’t want to buy another freezer for a cough cough deer! LOL You had encounters. Maybe you can find a better scope setup that keeps you legal and allows full shooting hours. I’m sure there is a birthday anniversary father’s day etc coming up for ya

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 21879
    #2308524

    It sounds like you had a successful season in the end no matter if that means dead deer or not.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 21879
    #2308526

    Nice write up Big Werm. Having little kids definitely crimps the time a guy has. But I am on the verge of some serious hunting with my son in the coming years and can’t wait.

    It’s the best thing ever hunting with the kids. I’ve watched my 13 year old grow in to both one hell of a hunter and a angler. It’s one of the things I really enjoy teaching, and it’s funner that he has enjoyed it as much as I.

    Gitchi Gummi
    Posts: 3393
    #2308798

    Nice write up of the season BW. Good stuff. I can’t help but conclude the reason for not tagging a big buck is obviously because of wolves! wink

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 4293
    #2308807

    Nice write up bigwerm. waytogo
    If Bagging a BIG BUCK every year is all that makes a hunter happy, he is going to be an unhappy hunter many years.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 12373
    #2308957

    Haha thanks guys! Gitchi, it’s the cat’s fault obviously whistling rotflol . Musky, I did get a deer during gun season, but there is still plenty of freezer space still available, guess I may need to look into adding a hog to the 1/2 of beef already in there. peace

    I need to start doing some research on a new scope, I just struggle spending money switching off something that is so dialed in otherwise. But it’s worth checking out.

    Also, I didn’t really emphasize this as much as I intended, but if you are not hunting from the ground a couple times end of October/early November so you can make scrapes/grunt and have bucks charging in at you, you are really missing out!

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24506
    #2308963

    I wouldnt want to swap out a perfectly good scope either. You should have seen my head spinning when my buddy was “sighting in” his ARs down in Texas! Before shooting them he said they were dead on. Well, at 50 yards he was barely on paper. The haphazard adjustments he was doing was driving me nuts. He literally turned in one way 26 clicks, shot it, then went 32 clicks back the other way. I looked at the scope this one happened to be a reticle with 3X magnification and 1 click was 1 MOA. So at 50 yards that is 1/2″. Do the math on how far he was moving things around LOL. I told him just hold on a second. Saw where the last shot hit, 3 inches high at 50. So 6 clicks down. Dead center. He looked so confused. LOL
    Glad you got some more meat in the freezer with the earlier deer. I guess I forgot about that one.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8915
    #2308968

    Cool write up. I’m not a public land hunter but do recognize the additonal work and planning it takes to hunt public land. It sounds like you’ve got great persepctive. There’s no doubt you will continue to have successful seasons in the future.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9155
    #2308992

    Appreciate the yearly write up BW, fun read!

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1824
    #2308996

    BigWerm, I have been hunting metro again for two years now. We had a big kitty walking around here on the east side of town last fall. Never did get it on camera. Only found tracks but was 100% a big cat.

    The DNR site is funny when reading about cougars. They imply there is no population in MN. Just some individual cats from ND/SD that show up time to time on a trail cameras. I half believe this but they sure do downplay the frequency of sitings IMO..

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 12373
    #2309001

    BigWerm, I have been hunting metro again for two years now. We had a big kitty walking around here on the east side of town last fall. Never did get it on camera. Only found tracks but was 100% a big cat.

    The DNR site is funny when reading about cougars. They imply there is no population in MN. Just some individual cats from ND/SD that show up time to time on a trail cameras. I half believe this but they sure do downplay the frequency of sitings IMO..

    Yeah the one(s) in the West Metro have been thoroughly documented over a few year time frame. Basically the DNR is saying until they get pics of kittens they regard them as transient bachelors/bachelorettes. Not saying that’s right, wrong or indifferent, but that’s the metric they require for the DNR to acknowledge there is a breeding population.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 9155
    #2309005

    I think the MN DNR assessment on cougars is very reasonable. They don’t deny there are cougars in minnesota, just state there isn’t a self-sustaining breeding population.

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    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24506
    #2309007

    The DNR site is funny when reading about cougars. They imply there is no population in MN. Just some individual cats from ND/SD that show up time to time on a trail cameras. I half believe this but they sure do downplay the frequency of sitings IMO..

    Yes, they definitely downplay it that is for sure. The other night while sitting at my favorite watering hole the bartender looked out across the ball field and she says “there is something big walking over there with a long tail”. She said, I dont see it now, but I did a couple of minutes ago. SMH. She did say it looked like a big cat and was light colored. Well that certainly sounds like you know what, but I would have liked to have seen it to know. Anyways I know last Fall there were sightings in person and on camera (along with tracks) in this area.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 12521
    #2309011

    The other night while sitting at my favorite watering hole the bartender looked out across the ball field and she says “there is something big walking over there with a long tail”

    If that is the watering hole I think it is, There have been several Cat. sightings in the area the last few years. I have a friend who lives less than a mile away that has seen the cat several times. Its always gone before she can get her camera out. She did have a bear on her front steps last year. Got a notice on her ring camera and when she looked there was a black bear. Needless to say between the bear and the Big cat, She doesn’t like taking her dog for a walk near dark.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24506
    #2309012

    Your friend must live near me -) Yes, black bears, cougars and wolves.

    AnotherFisherman
    Posts: 701
    #2309261

    I witnessed a cougar with 2 kittens in central MN this past summer! Was awesome to see. Reported to the DNR and they were thankful for the report. They were able to confirm that they had also seen this momma with her kittens.

    BW, great write-up, a pleasure to read.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24506
    #2309262

    I witnessed a cougar with 2 kittens in central MN this past summer! Was awesome to see. Reported to the DNR and they were thankful for the report. They were able to confirm that they had also seen this momma with her kittens.

    BW, great write-up, a pleasure to read.

    That is really cool but it defies everything they have said that its young males just roaming through lost from the blackhills.
    I dont think anyone is surprised because enough people have been seeing them.
    I still think it is awesome to see, but it also scares the crap out of me. I dont get afraid of wolves when walking into the woods, but a Cougar? Yes, those buggers stalk you just like the guy from WI who shot one last year.

    Youbetcha
    Wright County
    Posts: 3108
    #2309264

    You must not get to sneaky petes enough if you dont think cougars are in MN jester

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 18690
    #2309266

    Wasn’t there a lion sighted in the burbs near Mpls about two years ago? It was on a couple of neighborhooed residential serurity cameras and then someone hit it with a car on interstate 394.

    I think the nearest reproducing population is the Black Hills.

    JEREMY
    BP
    Posts: 4339
    #2309271

    Seen a big old cat turkey hunting this past spring by Blakeley.(Sibley Co) It looked about the size of our lab. Hes 72lbs. It was about 300 yards away crossing an open field. Dont know for sure what it was but judging by its posture its tail and how it walked it definitely looked like some sort of cat. Told my stepson I was glad we seen it walking out and not in. Strange part it was black.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24506
    #2309275

    Wasn’t there a lion sighted in the burbs near Mpls about two years ago? It was on a couple of neighborhooed residential serurity cameras and then someone hit it with a car on interstate 394.

    I think the nearest reproducing population is the Black Hills.

    Yes, it was hit on the highway later after being seen on multiple cameras at homes.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24506
    #2309276

    Strange part it was black.

    Very interesting. A full grown cougar is much larger than 72 pounds unless a female I suppose, but BLACK? interesting. Cant say I have heard of a color other than tan or whatever you would call that.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 12373
    #2309285

    Wasn’t there a lion sighted in the burbs near Mpls about two years ago? It was on a couple of neighborhooed residential serurity cameras and then someone hit it with a car on interstate 394.

    I think the nearest reproducing population is the Black Hills.

    Yeah, except the one on the security cameras has continued to be sighted since then, and may or may not have been the one I encountered. So safe to say they were not the same kitty. And it would be a helluva run from where I am hunting to 394 and Theodore Wirth Parkway. Plus I’m told suburban cougars aren’t going into MSP anymore jester rotflol jester (just that last sentence is a joke)

    JEREMY
    BP
    Posts: 4339
    #2309308

    Very interesting. A full grown cougar is much larger than 72 pounds unless a female I suppose, but BLACK

    It was a long was away so guessing on weight but definitely black. The people that own the land I was on said the elderly neighbor said she seen a bear a few times. It was no bear for sure.

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