Mens Group – Update

  • Charlie “Turk” Gierke
    Hudson Wisconsin
    Posts: 1020
    #1599564

    Two years ago, I posted here on the St. Croix forum about starting a mens group. The idea was to create a group of men that loved fishing and wanted to explore or strenghten their spiritual walk with Christ – no strings attached, come as you are.

    Upon posting I had two “I’m interested” replies in 15 minutes! The group formed in total with about twelve members. Today we are still going strong, meeting and talking fishing, giving each other some friendly grief, we also get together and fish, of course we read the Word. I have become a better ice fisherman from this group, plus I hope a better man. I have met guys that I look up to. If you see another group forming post this is what a group is about.

    Here is an ice fishing article I wrote about one of the groups outings:

    Two minds are better than one.

    The men’s fishing/Bible group I meet with was deliberating on an ice fishing destination within an hour drive of our meeting place in Hudson, Wisconsin, when Jeff, one of the group members spoke up and said, ” You are all welcome at my lake.” He went on “I have a cabin there we can have lunch and warm up, it’s on a small bowl shaped clear lake with sandy shores and little pressure. We do very well for crappies and blue gills in the spring, but the panfish seem to disappear during hard water…but they got to be somewhere.” Those in attendance at the cozy coffee house that night decided to take Jeff up on the offer despite past ice angling results.

    At sun up, on an overcast windless December morning, between Christmas and New Years, four from the group and my youngest son arrived at Jeff’s lake. It was the coldest morning in two weeks, and the only noise heard at this peaceful destination was the crunching of snow under the boots. The lake had modest cabins and small houses circumventing it with their inhabitants gone for the winter. With a collection of three blue colored portable fish houses and a single ATV we set out.

    After a group prayer, our host explained that immediately in front of his cabin lays the largest structure on the lake, a shallow weed flat with an underwater point. Jeff explained, “Anytime anyone fishes the lake they come from the public access and drive straight here, right in front of my cabin. When I have caught fish ice fishing it has been here.” Jeff also reminded us, ” The lake is a big bowl nearly 60 feet deep, but there is no structure out there.”

    In attendance was John our Bible study group’s resident panfish and ice angling expert. He enjoys generous doses of tongue in check ribbing from the walleye crowd for targeting, “fish that kids go after.” He was in his glory a top his ATV decked out perfectly with battery-powered K-Drill auger riding on the front rack and two 5 gallon buckets strapped on the back rack organizing gear and bait. Prior to arriving John “pinned” his Navionics lake map app on his phone with fishing locations.

    The first spot I heard John talk about was an inside turn half way on the other side of the lake. Interestingly what he called an inside turn was little more than a steep drop off following a modest curved breakline. This spot would later prove to be a hot spot.

    To start, the traditional fishing spot, the weed point and flat, became blanketed with northern pike tip ups while we targeting blue gills in 7 to 12 feet of water. As there was only 5” to 6” of ice, “Fish the green weeds” was our initial chapter and verse, so this shallow water approach was logical.

    Drew quickly had a flag pop on a large fathead and an enormous grin landed a largemouth bass. John then caught a keeper-sized sunfish after watching it sniff the bait on his sonar for a few minutes. My 12 year-old son and I were cozy fishing in the heated three-man shelter, but after twenty minutes of no signs of life, I moved the shelter to slightly deeper water, nothing. Then I moved along the same depth of 12 feet to the north. Finding little too the other guys were popping and hole hoping. Ending in 21 feet I started getting a few keeper sunnies. Right at this time John and Drew decided to find greener pastures, off to the inside turn.

    What ended up happening for John and Drew was more of the same. They fished the green weeds producing little, then worked deeper and caught a nice sunnie in 28 fow. They then popped a few more holes in the area and with 2 to 4 pound test line, small tungsten jigheads baited with wax worms just off of the bottom they
    started catching bluegills and crappies too. Upon the second crappie hitting the ice Drew noticed the fish spitting out small clear worms. The worms are Chironomids more on them later. John and Drew continued to put nice panfish on the ice; the guys found a hot spot with over 30 keepers to their credit. John was really living up to the billing!

    The inside turn the hot spot they were working actually leveled off to a shelf 28 feet deep. From this cup, the flat shelf bottom then dropped slowly. These two fishermen clearly found a school actively feeding, as other fish had evidence of immediate consumption of these worms too.

    Chironomids are larvae of midges, mayflies, caddisflies, and other flying insects. In their larval stage they feed on the dead plant and animal debris in the lake sediments. They are a large source of forage for all panfish. Since Chironomid’s eat, decaying plant material such as leaves from trees that fall into the lake, or dead underwater vegetation, this deep shelf area of the inside turn might be a settling area for fallen decaying vegetation, speculating it could be an area of higher decaying plant material.

    At the same time back at the other end of the lake a flag tripped. Jeff walked my son through the steps of handling the tip up line and setting the hook into what turned out to be a six-pound pike. The day was a success! We had great fellowship, and the ice fishing mystery of the lake was for that day solved. Jeff later hit the ice the next day near the inside turn and “Hammered the fish”.

    Talking to Jeff, who I know to be a very good angler, he said in hindsight, “I didn’t really explore the lake enough or think outside the box and fish deeper. I just repeated my past efforts.”

    In conclusion the old saying “that two minds are better than one,” held true. Sometimes in fishing we just need a different angle of approach. Of equal importance was finding the soft bottom with decaying plant material. As shown the food source that the worms feed on, in turn bring in the fish. So in this case find the forage’s food and you find the fish.

    Peace.
    Turk

    The image is of Jeff’s catches – taken the next day – It was a personal best on his lake – two minds are better than one!

    If you wish to know more about Chironomids, the foundational food chain forage, I have posted a very informative article about Chironomids on my guide web site.

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    a-and-t
    By Rochester,MN
    Posts: 708
    #1599587

    Turk,
    Sounds interesting. Where do you meet and how often.

    Charlie “Turk” Gierke
    Hudson Wisconsin
    Posts: 1020
    #1601311

    a-and-t,

    Hello. We meet at 7pm most every Wednesday night at Hudson Bagel Shop. Come by if you would like, if you do let me know first so I know your coming ([email protected])

    Three from our group got together on Saturday and put a hurting on the panfish! So they’ll have some good reports. I’ll be down on Pool Four any day, so then we talk open water.

    Have a nice day!
    Turk

    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #1610410

    We have also created a facebook page for those of you who partake in the facebook game. The name of the page is “Cast Your Net”. Like us if you want to follow along on our fishing adventures.

    ET

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1610854

    Awesome fishing experience and fellowship guys!

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