The CDC is now recommending people wear masks in covid 19 hot spots when you are in public and social distancing isn’t always possible. It is voluntary, not mandatory. When I was at the store, I would say about half the people I saw were wearing some kind of facial covering but most of them had medical masks on. I hoped this wouldn’t happen. Those specialized medical masks need to be saved for the medical workers, not civilians.
Just more proof they really don’t know whats going on with the virus. I’ll continue to assume about everything you hear is geared to keep the public from a all out panic.
Honestly my take away is that sometimes you have to listen to your instinct, use common sense, and don’t always blindly trust doctors because they are not always right. Nobody is.
I agree that the masks should be for the hospitals/clinic personnel
One thing I have heard lately is “Don’t spread the fear”
If this gets called overblown it is likely because actions taken in some states early prevented many from contracting this in the first place. Closing the schools and limiting access to retirement home/assisted living facilities were great first measures along with sporting events being cancelled. I quit looking at the news paper as it seemed to promote doom and gloom
Jeremy I agree but don’t think the states take it far enough.
What is essential about Cabella’s, liquor stores, road construction ect.
Yes closures mean lost jobs, non closures mean lost lives. So where are we drawing the line?
They do not recommend use of N95 masks as used by hospital and emergency personnel, rather cloth masks that you can make on your own. Using them can help prevent spread of virus if somebody coughs into one by limiting spray. I plan to use one simply to help prevent infecting myself if I go to touch my face (nose/mouth) when in public. I can swallow my pride just a bit to do so if it helps ensure I’m here to take care of my family.
There is always a dollar value assigned to human life. If absolute safety was the objective there would not be rolling beer cans on the road masquerading as cars. Meat packing plants would be supervised all of the time rather than at random intervals. New products being developed would all be thoroughly tested as would all of their components before being released to the market.
We’d all be safer but innovation would be stifled and lifesaving products – drugs, medical devices, etc. – would take even longer to get to consumers that they do now.
It’s always about tradeoffs. and hindsight is always 20/20.
Looks like MrBeads can make them for us.
BTW nice job Nick, that’s awesome. 
In a pinch you can also use a regular old bandana and two hair ties (or rubber bands if you’d like). This would be a good option for those who don’t have the ability to sew.
Personally every time I’ve worn face masks I’m always fiddling with the thing. Nose piece too tight, it’s slipping down, hard to breath with it on… Instead I’m thinking of using one of my face shields/buff that I use fishing. Probably double it over. My concern is taking it off since it has to be pulled back across one’s face.
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A lot of debate on if you should or shouldn’t wear face masks and safety glasses. My thoughts are if you are infected and don’t know it you are helping everyone around you. There is also some protection from being infected. Biggest reason I wear them when around others is it keeps me from touching my mouth, nose and eyes until I can wash my hands.
Personally every time I’ve worn face masks I’m always fiddling with the thing. Nose piece too tight, it’s slipping down, hard to breath with it on… Instead I’m thinking of using one of my face shields/buff that I use fishing. Probably double it over. My concern is taking it off since it has to be pulled back across one’s face.
I hate the feel of normal face masks, so I was considering the fishing buff as well. If I understand correctly you’re really only trying to control spreading what you already have with these new guidelines. That being said I don’t think we would need to worry about taking them back off.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
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Exactly, we’ve already discussed the reasoning behind that here before.
I hate the feel of normal face masks, so I was considering the fishing buff as well. If I understand correctly you’re really only trying to control spreading what you already have with these new guidelines. That being said I don’t think we would need to worry about taking them back off.
Exactly !
I pulled out the sewing machine this morning. Figured I’ll do my part when I do our grocery shopping. Kind of want to go to the bank just for the sake of going into the bank with a mask on. 
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I have several Gaiters I use to keep sun off my neck and face. I’ll wear one of those when we need to be out and about. Step in a store, pull it up. Take off and wash when we get home.
The communication on the mask suggestions is so sketchy. They recommend them and then everyone is wearing ones that medical workers need, making the PPE problem worse.
Laredo, Texas has now made it mandatory. Anyone out at a public venue caught without one will be fined $1000. Unreal
Jeremy I agree but don’t think the states take it far enough.
What is essential about Cabella’s, liquor stores, road construction ect.
Yes closures mean lost jobs, non closures mean lost lives. So where are we drawing the line?
This is an interesting video from one of my subscribed YouTube. I get the current reaction but few people realize that as stated in a study, there are 10,000 suicides for every 1% the unemployment rate goes up. Not saying I necessarily have proof but then again even if it is half right, shutting down the economy saves lives but maybe it costs more lives in the long run yet we don’t have a scorecard being posted daily for that. Of course then one could argue that the traffic deaths are down as well because fewer people are driving to work. For every reaction their is an equal and opposite reaction. I guess if you have a family to support, house payments, car payments, whether it is essential to you or me is different that the guy who lost his job at a deemed non-essential business. Being retired it’s easy for me to sit back and make assertions of what is right and wrong. I know one thing, I would not want to be 45 and in that non-essential employment category. And as Brad states, hindsight is 20/20.
It’s not even opinion whether wearing masks won’t help, it will and that’s a fact. How much it does on an individual level can be debated but when applied to the community as a whole it’s quite beneficial towards the goal.
I experimented with few different types and how many layers of cotton. I didn’t do a filter pocket bc who knows in 2 weeks time that filters will even be available, there’s no elastic anywhere, so filters will magically appear? Also it adds quite a bit more of sewing to the mix. Quantity over quality at this point.
There’s quite a bit of difference of filtration comparing 2 layers of cotton fabric, or a layer of cotton fabric and one cotton flannel. I chose one of each bc it seemed to fit that medium of better filtration than just the cotton sheets, but wasn’t to heavy to breathe thru. You get cotton fabric outside, and 2 layers of cotton flannel it gets much to tough to breathe thru especially all day IMO.
“Better to have 2 imperfect masks at this point than one perfect one” a RN said for a hospital video.
I’m trying to find an alternative to these fabric ties, fold fold fold than sew a 3/4″ piece of material so doubled the production time.
IMHO, those buffs are completely useless. Honestly wear nothing. Those things are meant to breath and evaporate sweat, if it’s easy to get water out, its just as easy to go in. Last thing I’d want is an infected droplet just sitting on the fabric waiting to be breathed in next breath rather than just passed by. Again, my 2 cents
The communication on the mask suggestions is so sketchy. They recommend them and then everyone is wearing ones that medical workers need, making the PPE problem worse.
Laredo, Texas has now made it mandatory. Anyone out at a public venue caught without one will be fined $1000. Unreal
I had 3 N95 masks laying in my garage from 10 years ago. So just because you see someone wearing one, dont assume they were bought up to prevent hospital workers from being safe. I certainly am not the problem and when I go out next, I will be wearing my N95 because that is what I had laying around.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gimruis wrote:</div>
The communication on the mask suggestions is so sketchy. They recommend them and then everyone is wearing ones that medical workers need, making the PPE problem worse.Laredo, Texas has now made it mandatory. Anyone out at a public venue caught without one will be fined $1000. Unreal
I had 3 N95 masks laying in my garage from 10 years ago. So just because you see someone wearing one, dont assume they were bought up to prevent hospital workers from being safe. I certainly am not the problem and when I go out next, I will be wearing my N95 because that is what I had laying around.
Same here. I have 4 n95’s from 11 years ago. makes me a bit uneasy to wear the n95 with how uptight and short fused some people are.
IMHO, those buffs are completely useless. Honestly wear nothing. Those things are meant to breath and evaporate sweat, if it’s easy to get water out, its just as easy to go in. Last thing I’d want is an infected droplet just sitting on the fabric waiting to be breathed in next breath rather than just passed by. Again, my 2 cents
Well dangnabbit, I just pulled mine out and was ready to wear it to the liquor store. 
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I had 3 N95 masks laying in my garage from 10 years ago. So just because you see someone wearing one, dont assume they were bought up to prevent hospital workers from being safe. I certainly am not the problem and when I go out next, I will be wearing my N95 because that is what I had laying around.
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I’m in the same boat. Years ago I was a medical supply distributor. So I had a few open sample boxes that are over 20 years old. I will wear them. But they did not come from any current inventory and when I tried to donate them earlier, I was told they only wanted sealed packages.
The CDC is now recommending people wear masks in covid 19 hot spots when you are in public and social distancing isn’t always possible. It is voluntary, not mandatory. When I was at the store, I would say about half the people I saw were wearing some kind of facial covering but most of them had medical masks on. I hoped this wouldn’t happen. Those specialized medical masks need to be saved for the medical workers, not civilians.
I have an N95 mask I’ll wear. I always have 1 or 2 in the workshop for when I’m spray painting, soldering or sanding etc. It’s not like I’m hoarding dozens of them.
I don’t think anyone will care if you are wearing an n95. If so tell them to mind their own business. I have half an open box that are 20 years old. They are size small so they don’t fit well anyways. If we are supposed to wear something they should be made available. I don’t have the materials to make them.
. Being retired it’s easy for me to sit back and make assertions of wha
Take your advice from a Youtube guy or from epidemiologists and the CDC? I know where I land. Listen to the science.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
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Sadly the alcoholics need it or they will fill the hospitals faster than covid patients.
I found the mask I need to learn to sew!!
EDIT: I hadn’t see the post right above yet. That’s just bad timing. 🤦♀️
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The debate over whether liquor stores should be considered essential or not during this time is missing the point. Perhaps there should be a third category: essential, non-essential, and doesn’t have to close.
I think liquor stores are falling into the “don’t have to close” category simply because of the nature of the business, rather than than that they’re deemed specifically essential. The nature of liquor stores is that adults (no children or teens) can buy what they’d like for spirited beverages and don’t usually congregate in the stores, spend hours there, or go in large groups. The reasons it makes sense to close places like bars, salons, tattoo shops, beauty stores, zoos, churches, and the like is because people DO go there in groups, with kids/elderly, and spend leisure time there. That doesn’t mean these places are less important than liquor stores – the terminology of essential vs. non is just easier and shorter to use.
My final comments on this thread will be quotes from a long dead Presidents that were loved by most
“All we have to fear is fear itself”
“Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You”
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