Maple Syrup

  • Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #1526566

    So who else is making maple syrup this spring? We decided to give it a try at home this year with a number of maple trees in the yard. Taped last week using some pipe hangers, milk jugs and bendy straws. This worked pretty well. 1/4″ holes in the trees and a little teflon tape to seal the straws, the sap was flowing. We got about 20 gallons of sap so far. Didnt plan ahead for that much so got just about every pot we own filled. Joked to the kids that we may need to start filling the bathtub. Boiling the sap down with the burner on the grill seems to be working pretty good. Should have our 1st batch of syrup ready tomorrow. Hoping to boil down a second batch them and end with a couple of pints for our back yard set up.

    Thinking with 50s coming in for the weekend that might be the end of sap collection.

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    river rat randy
    Hager City WI
    Posts: 1736
    #1526585

    Hey Mike that looks like a good time, kind of cool doing that right in your backyard………..By the way Mike I am a Certified Maple Syrup Taste Tester so if you pm me your address I will head up there in a day 0r 2. To do the test right it will take 4 or 5 pancakes with lots of syrup. I am retired now so there wont be any charge. But some times you have to do the test 2 or 3 times just make sure that its Grade A Syrup. wink wink … …rrr

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #1526591

    I’m all ready planning some nice French toast a sausages cover in fresh maple syrup for this weekend.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1526596

    This has always intrigued me. We have talked about planting some maple trees at the lake to tap when we live there.
    Is there a certain type of maple that produces best?

    steve-fellegy
    Resides on the North Shores of Mille Lacs--guiding on Farm Island these days
    Posts: 1294
    #1526597

    We have been tappin’ for over 40 years–about 600 taps at our biggest and now in our old (smarter) age, we do about 200. We didn’t tap this year ( long story) but will get back into the saddle next spring if all goes as planned now.

    So, feel free to call if you have questions and or need some coachin’…cell# below?

    Steve Root
    South St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 5649
    #1526603

    We’re doing it again this year too. My sister does the cooking. She boils it down outside and then finishes it off on the stove. There’s a lot of water to boil off and it makes a mess if you do that in your kitchen.

    river rat randy
    Hager City WI
    Posts: 1736
    #1526607

    I’m all ready planning some nice French toast a sausages cover in fresh maple syrup for this weekend.

    …Mike I really don’t think you should do that until the syrup is certified.! What did you say your address was again.? smile grin … …rrr

    carver
    West Metro
    Posts: 611
    #1526610

    Our taps dried up when we had that warm spell, we ended up with a little over 40 gals. Got a little over a gal and a half of syrup.

    Just one suggestion, you could get the bag which hangs on the metal tap itself so you don’t have to pound in a hanger and then another hole for the tap.

    Just like fishing there is plenty of stuff to buy if you really want to get into it and technical about it.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1526619

    I keep telling my wife that I want to try it. We have a bunch of maples in our yard. I’ve heard that boxelder works, too.

    Sharon
    Moderator
    SE Metro
    Posts: 5475
    #1526623

    Nothing like boxelder syrup on your pancakes. smirk

    hl&sinker
    Inactive
    north fowl
    Posts: 605
    #1526663

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mike W wrote:</div>
    I’m all ready planning some nice French toast a sausages cover in fresh maple syrup for this weekend.

    …Mike I really don’t think you should do that until the syrup is certified.! What did you say your address was again.? smile grin … …rrr

    Just thought I’d throw this out there. I’m a certified nonprofit maple syrup judge. Gotta make things fair ya know.
    Mike your going to have to get a bigger table.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #1526679

    We just started out with what I had on Hand. It was funny on the 1st day when the girls where trying to drink sap from the trees with the straws. Was a little suprised how well the straws wrapped with a little Teflon worked. Heard the boxelder sap can be a little bitter but still good. Neighbors father was telling me about tapping beech to. Guess that’s a Russian thing.

    steve-fellegy
    Resides on the North Shores of Mille Lacs--guiding on Farm Island these days
    Posts: 1294
    #1526688

    Although the finished product from the box elders will be fine in most cases, the amount of sap/per gallon of finished product will have to about double–as the box elders are much less sweet than the “hard/sugar” maples. Silver or “soft” maples are less in sugar content ( much better than box elder though) as well but still good if that’s all you have to tap. White or yellow birch will run sap too–but again, not as sweet as the various breeds of maples so one will need a bunch more sap from those to get the true maple syrup sugar content/taste. In other words, MORE cooking of MORE sap from anything other than the maples–“hard maple” being the sweetest and less gallons of sap per finished product needed==less cooking.

    outdoors4life
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 1500
    #1526742

    I am collecting this year. I WAS using bags until yesterday when they got too full over the course of 3 hours and ripped and fell losing all the sap. Somewhere around 14 gallons lost. I put bags back up when and got buckets. In one hour I had half gallon average per tap.

    I have been boiling every day. 5-6 hours to condense the storage.

    Everyone offers to buy the syrup from me but nobody wants the sap and the work. The sap I have been getting is very sweet.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1526759

    I’ll try again…does one type of maple produce better than another?

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10642
    #1526767

    I’ll try again…does one type of maple produce better than another?

    I heard the Aunt Jamaima Maple works well. grin

    steve-fellegy
    Resides on the North Shores of Mille Lacs--guiding on Farm Island these days
    Posts: 1294
    #1526777

    I’ll try again…does one type of maple produce better than another?

    In layman’s terms–“hard maple” as we call it in central/northern Mn. is the sweetest ( sap sugar content)–compared to the “soft maples”. We get about 30-33 gallons ( some years even better) of sap per gallon of finished liquid gold from the hard maples and about 40-43 per gallon of sap to a finished gallon of liquid gold from the soft maples. Both make the same good liquid gold in the end. One takes more cooking/sap to get the same amount of liquid gold. I can’t tell the difference in taste in the end. Just my opinion…lol

    Now–here is a “study” from central Mn. that hopefully answers your inquiry–better than this old weather-beaten sapper can….
    http://employees.csbsju.edu/ssaupe/CV/conger_final_report.pdf

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #1526796

    When should we be done collecting sap from the trees? Ive seen both when the leaves start popping or the sap turns milky. Thanks.

    Steve Root
    South St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 5649
    #1526798

    When should we be done collecting sap from the trees? Ive seen both when the leaves start popping or the sap turns milky. Thanks.

    That seems to happen at the same time. When it gets milky it tastes bitter too.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #1526799

    So what temp do you guys bring the syrup up to. We are about 215 right now and a quick sample taste great. Have heard to bring it up as high as 220.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1526803

    Thanks Steve!

    eelpoutguy…. moon rotflol rotflol

    BullsNeyes
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 168
    #1526806

    7 degrees F
    It is important to watch the boiling sap very closely as it approaches syrup, since it is more likely to boil over at this point. If you have a candy thermometer, finish the boil when the temperature is 7 degrees F above the boiling point of water.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #1526807

    We hit 220. Yep it wanted to boil over pretty easy as it Got hotter. Interisting as the temp you bring it to relates to water and sugar content.

    scott-k
    Red Wing
    Posts: 539
    #1526831

    Daughter and I are getting sap as well. We boiled a batch and there’s some residue in the bottom. Rather than strain it, my feeling is slow pour the good stuff and just leave cruddy stuff at the bottom. Sound okay? Pancakes and meat for breakfast.

    carver
    West Metro
    Posts: 611
    #1526855

    Ya thats is what we did the first year before we got a double filter(big coffee filter and a special one). All that is misc junk and mineral deposits like potassium. Attached is what that looks like if you care. We started to can it in quart and jelly jars so thats why we switched to filter while hot.

    We pull our taps when it gets cloudy as well. We were told not to use 100% cloudy sap but it can be used if its a couple gals with good clear stuff.

    And speaking of taps dry….Tonight I came home to 20 gals of sap.

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    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #1526909

    We filtered it before the final boil but not at the end. Guess we will have to keep an eye on the jars to see if they separate. Think I was reading last night that if you do not filter at the end the syrup can have a grainy texture. Guess we thought it tasted so good right out of the pan that that was it for processing.

    steve-fellegy
    Resides on the North Shores of Mille Lacs--guiding on Farm Island these days
    Posts: 1294
    #1526939

    The “stuff” on the bottom of the jar is called “sugar sand”. It does not negatively effect the finished liquid gold but does look “questionable” to anyone who doesn’t know–so if you gift it to someone it is best to eliminate the sugar sand/sediment appearance. Sugar sand is created/formed at around 218-219 degrees–right at the end. Can’t get around it without filtering unless you do not cook it up to that temp–not finished.

    Here are some “tricks” ( right or wrong) that we do in the finishing process.

    1. It is best to use a hydrometer ( designed for maple syrup processing) to get the finished product right and consistently right. Although 219 degrees is the “correct” finished temp–it is not as accurate, on a consistent basis, as the hydrometer. Testing as you go with the hydrometer–maybe starting testing at around 217 degrees.

    2. The best small operation filtering tool is the felt/wool filtering bag sold for this exact purpose. It is cone shaped and sold at all the maple syrup supply places. I suggest if you are ending up with over 15-20 gallons of finished liquid gold in each batch, you get a small filtering press–expensive but needed to do bigger volumes at one time with a lot less mess/work. The wool filtering bags work fine for finished batches of 3-5 gallons. They plug up and need cleaning after that amount goes through them. Having 2-3 of the bags makes the job easier though…

    3. do not cook the sap down to the 219 ( or finished mark on the hydrometer) before filtering. Filter it at about 217 degrees ( at the 30 mark on the hydrometer) Take the 217 sap out of the cooker and put it in buckets ( white buckets work best–reason to follow). Let it sit/settle for 24 hrs. in a cold place. Clean out the cooker and then pour the unfinished stuff back in–watching closely to NOT pour the gunk/black sludge on the bottom of the bucket back in. ( easier to see the black gunk/sludge in a white bucket) The “settling” step makes filtering easier in the end.

    4. bring it back to boiling/finished status and filter it through the bag or press. We add ONE beaten egg to every gallon ( example–5 gallons = 5 beaten eggs. Add beaten eggs after the stuff is boiling and the egg will float to the top and cook–absorbing lots of the microscopic stuff. Scoop out all the egg stuff you can before filtering) of boiling sap at this point and leave the egg in during the WHOLE time/final boil.

    5. clean the cooker once more and add the finished filtered liquid gold back into it. Bring it back to about 200 degrees and bottle. DO NOT bring it back to a boil or you are over cooking and creating MORE sugar sand again. ( sugar sand is created at around the 218-219 degree level.

    This is the process we have used for over 40 years to get nice clear/clean liquid gold. If I left you with questions/confused–call me at the number below.

    chomps
    Sioux City IA
    Posts: 3974
    #1526946

    The family has about 6 acres just north of the Red Door. My brother and dad have been running maple trees for 6-7 years now. Brother brought back 45 gallons last weekend and dad goes up on the weekdays to empty the bags. I’m Hopefully going up this weekend to babysit the bags and get the boat ready to sell. Brother bought a new one.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1526965

    Thanks for the detailed info Steve! Very helpful.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13651
    #1526985

    Thanks for the stroll down memory lane. Spent many spring trips up to my relatives to make syrup and candy. As a kid, it was so boring to sit for hours stoking the fire and keeping the sap moving and at the right temp. Sure do miss that old Sugar shack

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