Mandatory masks!?

Ripjiggen wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Great Laker wrote:</div>
Can’t help but laugh at all the conspiracy theorists and the people saying they know better than doctors, nurses, microbiologists, scientists, epidemiologists, and the CDC. Its ironic because many of the conspiracy theorists and anti-maskers are people who barely passed high school science class, yet are the first to offer their opinions on why masks aren’t needed.

“So you’re just going to blindly listen to the CDC without doing your own research?”

Yes… absolutely. What research am I going to do that is going to be more valid or valuable than research from a government agency that spends $6.5 BILLION a year on studying diseases and disease transmission? Do you honestly think your google skills are worth $6.5 billion a year of scientific research? It is in everyone’s best interest to listen to the CDC and follow their guidelines and recommendations. Wear a mask! It’s literally easier to wear a mask than debate about it. That’s how easy it is. Stop being selfish and do the easiest thing you can do to help prevent the spread and help people not die. Remember, its not about you, its about us. Even Trump finally came around and is encouraging mask use… never thought I’d see the day – only took about 4 months.

I don’t need to hear another reason for why you don’t want to wear a mask.. I don’t have the energy to deal with another living, breathing Dunning-Kruger graph.

You literally copy and pasted this whole statement right off a Facebook post circulating.

He doesn’t do much thinking for himself. I caught on to that a while ago

Don Meier wrote:

See it all the time deep state conspiracy ? Makes me laugh to even think that men and women who have devoted their lives to science and medicine are somehow part of a giant conspiracy theory to TAKE AWAY a perceived freedom .

No Conspiracy. Everyone should view any message coming from any government agency with a critical eye and ear.

Why should anyone believe anything that Fauchi says now after admitting he lied about wearing masks? He should have been fired on the spot or resigned. This is exactly the reason why Americans are having this debate now.

-J.

Fauci lied about masks? Please explain.

I got this from the Hill interview with Fauci. It seems reasonable or it could be an afterthought excuse.

“Fauci also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn’t feel the strain of a shortage of PPE.

He explained that public health experts “were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply.”

By early April, the Strategic National Stockpile had been depleted, and around the same time President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to have manufacturing chains across the U.S. focus on making vital medical equipment such as ventilators and masks.

Fauci continued to say that they wanted to give as many masks as possible to front line workers and emergency personnel.

“We wanted to make sure that the people, namely the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected,” Fauci concluded.”

Jon Jordan wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Don Meier wrote:</div>
See it all the time deep state conspiracy ? Makes me laugh to even think that men and women who have devoted their lives to science and medicine are somehow part of a giant conspiracy theory to TAKE AWAY a perceived freedom .

No Conspiracy. Everyone should view any message coming from any government agency with a critical eye and ear.

Why should anyone believe anything that Fauchi says now after admitting he lied about wearing masks? He should have been fired on the spot or resigned. This is exactly the reason why Americans are having this debate now.

-J.

The only thing worse than lying is later trying to justify the lie rather than owning it. Especially from his position.

-J.

Jon Jordan wrote:

The only thing worse than lying is later trying to justify the lie rather than owning it. Especially from his position.

-J.

see POTUS

mojogunter wrote:

I got this from the Hill interview with Fauci. It seems reasonable or it could be an afterthought excuse.

“Fauci also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn’t feel the strain of a shortage of PPE.

He explained that public health experts “were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply.”

By early April, the Strategic National Stockpile had been depleted, and around the same time President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to have manufacturing chains across the U.S. focus on making vital medical equipment such as ventilators and masks.

Fauci continued to say that they wanted to give as many masks as possible to front line workers and emergency personnel.

“We wanted to make sure that the people, namely the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected,” Fauci concluded.”

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Jon Jordan wrote:</div>

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Don Meier wrote:</div>
See it all the time deep state conspiracy ? Makes me laugh to even think that men and women who have devoted their lives to science and medicine are somehow part of a giant conspiracy theory to TAKE AWAY a perceived freedom .

No Conspiracy. Everyone should view any message coming from any government agency with a critical eye and ear.

Why should anyone believe anything that Fauchi says now after admitting he lied about wearing masks? He should have been fired on the spot or resigned. This is exactly the reason why Americans are having this debate now.

-J.

Who is in quotations here? Unless fauci refers to himself in the third person like the fonz

Mike m wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Jon Jordan wrote:</div>
The only thing worse than lying is later trying to justify the lie rather than owning it. Especially from his position.

-J.

see POTUS

LOLOLOLOL. Now thats a gotcha moment right there

I work in the construction field and visit many different sites daily. Only masks i see worn are when dust is involved, and 6ft rule isn’t in effect on big concrete pours.
Why are these guys not dying off at a alarming rate? How is so much construction still going on when we all are around differing people on the daily ?
Haven’t heard of a confirmed covid case yet, actually I did. But it ended up being a guy in a different company wanting free money and days off. He was let go after claiming a positive case but never got checked

mojogunter wrote:

I got this from the Hill interview with Fauci. It seems reasonable or it could be an afterthought excuse.
“Fauci also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn’t feel the strain of a shortage of PPE.

He explained that public health experts “were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply.”

By early April, the Strategic National Stockpile had been depleted, and around the same time President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to have manufacturing chains across the U.S. focus on making vital medical equipment such as ventilators and masks.

Fauci continued to say that they wanted to give as many masks as possible to front line workers and emergency personnel.

“We wanted to make sure that the people, namely the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected,” Fauci concluded.”

That’s exactly the message that was clearly delivered back in April. It is definitely not an afterthought excuse. This is actually still relevant today. We should not be buying N95 or surgical masks. The shortages still exist especially in the midst of the current outbreak occurring around the country.

Changing a recommendation based on evolving circumstances and lying is not the same thing.

biggill wrote:

Changing a recommendation based on evolving circumstances and lying is not the same thing.

He intentionally lied knowing full well the public would have benefitted from wearing a mask. Or at least that is what he claims now. His job is to protect the public. Not just health care workers.

-J.

biggill wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mojogunter wrote:</div>
I got this from the Hill interview with Fauci. It seems reasonable or it could be an afterthought excuse.
“Fauci also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn’t feel the strain of a shortage of PPE.

He explained that public health experts “were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply.”

By early April, the Strategic National Stockpile had been depleted, and around the same time President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to have manufacturing chains across the U.S. focus on making vital medical equipment such as ventilators and masks.

Fauci continued to say that they wanted to give as many masks as possible to front line workers and emergency personnel.

“We wanted to make sure that the people, namely the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected,” Fauci concluded.”

That’s exactly the message that was clearly delivered back in April. It is definitely not an afterthought excuse. This is actually still relevant today. We should not be buying N95 or surgical masks. The shortages still exist especially in the midst of the current outbreak occurring around the country.

Changing a recommendation based on evolving circumstances and lying is not the same thing.

But n95 masks let the wearers germs out. They shouldn’t be worn for this virus spread. What happened to that.
Or is it that they are wearing it so who cares they are trying just like if I put a bandana on my mouth

Jon Jordan wrote:

He intentionally lied knowing full well the public would have benefitted from wearing a mask. Or at least that is what he claims now. His job is to protect the public. Not just health care workers.

Lied??? Again, please explain.

Bearcat89 wrote:

But n95 masks let the wearers germs out. They shouldn’t be worn for this virus spread. What happened to that.
Or is it that they are wearing it so who cares they are trying just like if I put a bandana on my mouth

The masks that have the vent flap are useless for preventing community spread.

biggill wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bearcat89 wrote:</div>
But n95 masks let the wearers germs out. They shouldn’t be worn for this virus spread. What happened to that.
Or is it that they are wearing it so who cares they are trying just like if I put a bandana on my mouth

The masks that have the vent flap are useless for preventing community spread.

Just as a dirty piece of cloth

biggill wrote:

Lied??? Again, please explain.

Very well documented. Just go to youtube and search on Faucci – masks.

-J.

Bearcat89 wrote:

Just as a dirty piece of cloth

Agreed.

Jon Jordan wrote:

Very well documented. Just go to youtube and search on Faucci – masks.

So you’re willing to call someone a liar but not explain why. This is the kind of logic that is toxic.

I thought the WH backed off trying to discredit Fauci? Is that narrative still being pushed? Seems an important part about Fauci’s response conveniently gets left out.

When it became clear that the infection could be spread by asymptomatic carriers who don’t know they’re infected, that made it very clear that we had to strongly recommend masks

biggill wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Jon Jordan wrote:</div>
Very well documented. Just go to youtube and search on Faucci – masks.

So you’re willing to call someone a liar but not explain why. This is the kind of logic that is toxic.

Bearcat89 wrote:

But n95 masks let the wearers germs out. They shouldn’t be worn for this virus spread. What happened to that.
Or is it that they are wearing it so who cares they are trying just like if I put a bandana on my mouth

Not all n95 masks have the valve, any medical grade n95 mask has no valve.

Masks that don’t filter what you exhale are made for use when the environment is the issue- painting, sanding drywall, whatever

Some people hate liar’s, well the biggest one is in the oval office, think I will go back being a lurker!

Some people hate liar’s, well the biggest one is in the oval office, think I will go back being a lurker!

Not hard
Wear the mask
A vaccine is on the way.

Can I use my beard as a mask?

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Jon. That news report badly misrepresents that Fauci actually said. They literally said numerous times that “numerous articles were written about the ineffectiveness of masks” which had absolutely nothing to do with what Fauci himself said. They are pinning opinion articles written by the media on him which is in and of itself a lie.

I’m sorry you choose to believe this.

biggill wrote:

Lied??? Again, please explain.

Pretty sure Fauci’s original comments were in his 60 minutes interview. I have no problem with wearing a mask, but Jon is correct.

Coletrain27 wrote:

Can I use my beard as a mask?

Who would have thought that Cousin It was designed to be pandemic-proof?

biggill wrote:

Jon. That news report badly misrepresents that Fauci actually said. They literally said numerous times that “numerous articles were written about the ineffectiveness of masks” which had absolutely nothing to do with what Fauci himself said. They are pinning opinion articles written by the media on him which is in and of itself a lie.

I’m sorry you choose to believe this.

Apologies accepted Matt.

BigWerm wrote:

Pretty sure Fauci’s original comments were in his 60 minutes interview. I have no problem with wearing a mask, but Jon is correct.

This?

http://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/preventing-coronavirus-facemask-60-minutes-2020-03-08/

“There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask,” infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes.

While masks may block some droplets, Fauci said, they do not provide the level of protection people think they do. Wearing a mask may also have unintended consequences: People who wear masks tend to touch their face more often to adjust them, which can spread germs from their hands.

But there is another risk to healthy people buying disposable masks as a precaution. The price of face masks is surging, and Prestige Ameritech, the nation’s largest surgical mask manufacturer, is now struggling to keep up with the increased demand.

“It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it,” Fauci said.

I guess if you leave everything out in bold you can create a narrative where it looks like he’s lying.