Mandatory Boat decontamination coming???

  • deertracker
    Posts: 9237
    #1702189

    Sounds like for 3 lakes in Wright County. Is that what you heard? I didn’t listen to it all because I don’t fish in Wright County.
    DT

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1702190

    Sounds like for 3 lakes in Wright County. Is that what you heard? I didn’t listen to it all because I don’t fish in Wright County.
    DT

    At least 3 but others close by were present at the meeting and spoke to commissioners. Not looking good. I can see huge amounts of discrimination coming if you dont live on the “our/Their” lake.

    Ryan P
    Farmington
    Posts: 223
    #1702191

    I also didn’t listen to it all but I thought he said there would be no way to enforce mandatory decontamination?

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1702192

    I also didn’t listen to it all but I thought he said there would be no way to enforce mandatory decontamination?

    He said that they could not enforce mandatory inspections “when” the boat “leaves” the lake but all would be inspected and decontaminated on entry.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1702195

    Go to 1:21:00
    Bunch of d%*%

    Pretty diverse group there. Lake associations from all over voicing support. Hey, what LSO wouldn’t want to make it harder for the public to fish “their” lakes.

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1702198

    So if they find AIS at the entry inspection you have to leave and go to a decontamination facility? UGH.

    Yes this only 3 lakes but the scary thing is, if they can “prove” that this is a more efficient and cost-effective way to do de-contamination, as opposed to the units they’re currently using at some launches, this could easily go state-wide. And I don’t see fishermen organizing in any way to fight the lake associations.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #1702214

    Can you imagine the line at the “decontamination station” on labor day weekend!? It would be like seeing those videos of people in line to get gas during the shortages in the 70’s. Forget that!

    If you watched the video the first guy that showed up referenced a study put out by the DNR in 2012 that stated it would be more cost effective to have regional decontamination sites than the way we are operating now. Then the lady that came up next stated that while it would be more “cost effective” the total cost would increase and that currently its projected to be at 117k for 3 months for this operation and they have only 35k cash on hand. What does that even mean that something is more cost effective but the total cost increases?

    SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1702216

    In Wyoming, your boat is inspected and a cable tie is put on the boat to trailer. When the boat arrives at the lake, the inspector knows the boat is clean by the cable tie. The designated inspection sites have decontamination wash trucks on site to deal with questionable boats. Seems to be a pretty good system.

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1702217

    In Wyoming, your boat is inspected and a cable tie is put on the boat to trailer. When the boat arrives at the lake, the inspector knows the boat is clean by the cable tie. The designated inspection sites have decontamination wash trucks on site to deal with questionable boats. Seems to be a pretty good system.

    What if you’ve been in other infested waters and picked up zeebs since the cable was tied?

    poomunk
    Galesville, Wisconsin
    Posts: 1505
    #1702219

    I’m assuming that to get boat off the trailer it would require removal of the tie.

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1702228

    Ok, I understand how that works — but “pretty good system” isn’t exactly how I would characterize it. What if I want to fish early or late — am I supposed to wait around for an inspector to cut my tie so my boat can launch? Absurd.

    Huntindave
    Shell Rock Iowa
    Posts: 3088
    #1702235

    Ok, I understand how that works — but “pretty good system” isn’t exactly how I would characterize it. What if I want to fish early or late — am I supposed to wait around for an inspector to cut my tie so my boat can launch? Absurd.

    Some lakes in Colorado are like this too. While you may consider it “absurd” it is really not much different than visiting any other attraction which has set hours.

    And yes, the launch ramp gates are closed and one can not get on or off the lake during the closed hours.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #1702236

    “And yes, the launch ramp gates are closed and one can not get on or off the lake during the closed hours.”

    that aint gonna fly in Minnesota

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1702247

    that aint gonna fly in Minnesota

    Since the whole ais scare started and the Asian Carp threat (along with a Governor that doesn’t know a Big Head Carp from a Muskie)

    Fishing as “we” know it today will be soon gone.

    brad-o
    Mankato
    Posts: 410
    #1702251

    Sounds like the easy way to cut down on boat traffic on a lake! Hopefully they make their guest that bring a kayak go through this. Also how does one stop this with the amount of water carried by swimmers and swimming toys. I guess they don’t contain any water.

    riverruns
    Inactive
    Posts: 2218
    #1702254

    I guess this must be a MN issue? Are these lakes public water? Will they shut down the Mississippi river also? That’s public water.

    You guys better fight for what you can,and soon, if this is public water. Once they get something established watch out!

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1702267

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
    that aint gonna fly in Minnesota

    Since the whole ais scare started and the Asian Carp threat (along with a Governor that doesn’t know a Big Head Carp from a Muskie)

    Fishing as “we” know it today will be soon gone.

    Whoa. That’s a pretty strong statement Brian.

    One of the things I’ve been thinking about tonight… I’ve fished 7 different bodies of water in MN this season and every one of em is already infested with a laundry list of AIS. So that’s “fishing as I know it.” Even if they could afford to put locking gates around every public access in the state and staff them all with inspectors — what would be the ecological benefit of keeping people off those already infested lakes?

    And what about lakes like Mille Lacs that have numerous privately owned businesses that provide their customers access?

    basseyes
    Posts: 2509
    #1702270

    “And yes, the launch ramp gates are closed and one can not get on or off the lake during the closed hours.”

    that aint gonna fly in Minnesota

    So if you’re a LSO it’s perfect. You have 24/7 access. Public, won’t be so public anymore.

    It’s already in the air and we don’t even know it.

    basseyes
    Posts: 2509
    #1702271

    Fishing as “we” know it today will be soon gone.

    Things constantly change, fishing is no different. But ais is being used as a Trojan horse for nothing related to ais. There’s so little facts on dealing with flowing waters already infested and what happens when everything gets infested, which they all eventually will. There’s to many variables way outside regulation or enforcement’s control.

    mnfishhunt
    Brooklyn Park, MN
    Posts: 523
    #1702273

    hypothetical question

    if I am in a lake that has milfoil and I dont clean the molfiol off my boat and go to another lake with milfiol will I contaminate said second lake?

    does it really matter at that point? same could be said about zebra muscles.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1702276

    All measures to slow the inevitable. Sad, but true.

    bigpike
    Posts: 6259
    #1702279

    Eventually I might have to take my boat thru the U.P. to get into Canada!

    MnPat1
    Posts: 371
    #1702305

    The worst part of all of this is they are doing this with our money. Instead of putting the money towards useful things….

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1702307

    “And yes, the launch ramp gates are closed and one can not get on or off the lake during the closed hours.”

    that aint gonna fly in Minnesota

    Already happening ….ie Christmas lake!

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #1702315

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
    “And yes, the launch ramp gates are closed and one can not get on or off the lake during the closed hours.”

    that aint gonna fly in Minnesota

    Already happening ….ie Christmas lake!

    Well yeah but that’s a private lake so its different devil

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1702321

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mocha wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
    “And yes, the launch ramp gates are closed and one can not get on or off the lake during the closed hours.”

    that aint gonna fly in Minnesota

    Already happening ….ie Christmas lake!

    Well yeah but that’s a private lake so its different devil

    Public lake made private by their gate during certain hours but it does have a public ramp and parking lot for access!

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #1702323

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mocha wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
    “And yes, the launch ramp gates are closed and one can not get on or off the lake during the closed hours.”

    that aint gonna fly in Minnesota

    Already happening ….ie Christmas lake!

    Well yeah but that’s a private lake so its different devil

    Public lake made private by their gate during certain hours but it does have a public ramp and parking lot for access!

    I know. it was a joke.

    Huntindave
    Shell Rock Iowa
    Posts: 3088
    #1702341

    Well the lake in Colorado certainly is NOT private. It is a Federal impoundment on the Gunnison River named “Blue Mesa Reservoir”. To the best of my knowledge, all the surrounding land is owned by the Federal government and is a part of the Curecanti National Recreation Area.

    The access has a totally seperate (different parking lot) decontamination washdown station, where your boat and trailer undergo a hot water pressure wash prior to being able to launch. Once washed, the inspector applies a thin wire seal from the bow eye to the winch. You then drive to the launch ramp where another inspector checks the seal before you can launch. The act of launching will break the seal.

    Upon your return, you can go to the washdown, get cleaned and a new seal applied to speed things up prior to your next launch. As long as the seal has not be broken the launch inspector will let you launch next time, regardless if it the next day or a month later. You just need an intact seal or your boat has to go thru the washdown to get a fresh seal.

    Of course this can only be done during the posted hours when the launch and washdown station are open and manned.

    Again, This is on a Federal reservoir on federal land.

    Rob92761
    La Crosse WI
    Posts: 101
    #1702366

    so much for fishing 24 hours day in Minnesota

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