Mandatory AIS Boat Wash – Update

  • SpoonbillSlayer
    St. Michael, MN
    Posts: 178
    #1710781

    I couldn’t find the original post on this from last month, so just started a new one.

    I saw this on the Wright County website today: http://www.wrightswcd.org/Water_Management/aquatic_invasive_species.html
    Theres a link in Blue on the home page.

    Sounds like they are having a meeting about it on AUG 23. From talking to the DNR, I believe they didn’t allow the initial dates for this to happen. Mostly because there was really no comment period on it. Sounds like they are gonna have it now. Guess if your against it, now’s your chance to speak up. You can also send in written comments. Not sure exactly to who, at least I didn’t see that part clearly. Maybe to Alicia O’Hare.

    Like others have said, I believe their ultimate goal is to have this implemented county wide at some point. When you look at the committee info, most groups are lake associations. Hopefully it still can be stopped.

    Here is the DNR person I called on this, she was helpful: Heidi Wolf – 651-259-5152

    Anyone else have any new info on this?

    slipbob_nick
    Princeton, MN
    Posts: 1297
    #1710856

    some people really suck.

    I live on a lake and can see the public access from my window I knew this when I moved there. the thought of limiting access or privatizing a lake has never crossed my mind(how would I find out what their biting on)

    Their effort has nothing to do with protecting the lakes. their lakes are infested already. it should be mandatory to spray the boat when it leaves those lakes not when it goes in.

    SpoonbillSlayer
    St. Michael, MN
    Posts: 178
    #1711603

    Reminder, meeting tonight at 7:00pm in Annandale and written comment period runs til August 28th. The email addresses for comment are on pages 18-19.

    Comment now or the days of fishing your favorite lake anytime you want, will be over! I’m sure this is coming to a county near you if this goes thru out here.

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #1711605

    If someone goes to this meeting please ask this question: “How do you spray the bunks under the boat?” As soon as you dump your boat you are exposing those bunks that may have been in a affected lake.
    This is an exercise in futility if you ask me. The DNR wont answer me.

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1711610

    Cant make it to the meeting …. too far away ….. but I did email the board with my thoughts. Dont think they will like my thoughts but I did ask some very pointed questions.

    If you cant go get your emails in!

    SpoonbillSlayer
    St. Michael, MN
    Posts: 178
    #1711639

    If someone goes to this meeting please ask this question: “How do you spray the bunks under the boat?” As soon as you dump your boat you are exposing those bunks that may have been in a affected lake.
    This is an exercise in futility if you ask me. The DNR wont answer me.

    I might be dreaming this up, but I think I read something called “Float the Boat”. You would have to back your boat into a pool if you have bunks.

    Here is a blurb from earlier Wright County proposal and it mentions 2 Pools!!

    — Add two decontamination pools (next phase)

    This is even crazier!!
    Maybe someone else knows what “Float the Boat” is?

    Charles
    Posts: 1932
    #1711662

    OMG really Float your boat, building pools yeah good use of money.

    c_w
    central MN
    Posts: 202
    #1711681

    It’s supposedly a peroxide based solution that works to kill everything. No telling what it will do to your equipment. Pretty sure I won’t be living in this area much longer if that goes through.

    I’ll be at the meeting tonight. I’m sure the paid lobbyist for Greater Lake Sylvia Association were flown in today. I do wonder how many locals will get on the docket to speak up against it?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1711744

    Sounds like there was a good<?> turn out.

    SpoonbillSlayer
    St. Michael, MN
    Posts: 178
    #1711753

    I went to the meeting last night, which was more like an Open House. They had no speaker or gave no presentation of the Plan. You just walked around and talked to some County Reps and two DNR reps. They did have some lake Assoc people there too, but I didn’t bother talking to them.

    What I got out of it from the DNR was, write in your concerns to them. They have the final power. At least to me, it seemed DNR lady was not impressed with the meeting and pointedly said, They can build all the washing stations they want, but until we approve it, it would just be voluntary. Talking to County Reps and a few old friends who are lake owners on John, they want this thru now. They said it keeps getting pushed back. They are ticked at the DNR. We did all agree on one thing, that we all don’t like that AIS is spreading.

    So morale of story, write the DNR, County and your State reps! If you could only write one letter, send it to the DNR.

    DNR – [email protected]
    County – [email protected]

    Also, DNR said the ‘Float the Boat’ thing was a total no go at this point. She named off several reasons why, one was they have no idea what it could do to boats. She said that was the county’s doings, not the DNR. The Lake Assocs were pushing that.

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #1711794

    Hi Chris,

    Great question; April forwarded your e-mail to help get you an answer. You’re certainly correct that bunk trailers can pose a risk for transporting invasive species (most likely plants), and can be difficult to clean. Decontamination units are a useful tool to help reduce risk, but no prevention tool will be 100% effective in all scenarios. When our inspectors encounter difficulties with trailers there are a few options they can try – re-launching the boat can sometimes help remove stuck vegetation (DNR inspectors also have rakes to keep weedy accesses as clear of floating vegetation as possible); the other option is to use low pressure hot water to soak the area for an extended period of time. Heating the area can stress the plants to the point where they’ll no longer be able to grow in the future. After the heat treatment as much of the plant should be removed as possible to minimize the size of the fragment and increase the chance of killing the plant.

    Thank you,
    Adam

    Adam Doll
    Watercraft Inspection Coordinator | Ecological and Water Resources

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1711801

    Can anyone find evidence that a decontamination station actually works?

    tim hurley
    Posts: 5807
    #1711922

    Maybe a dumb question but what happens if you go to one of the infected lakes right now? (might go to either Sylvia or Sugar on Sat.)

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1712132

    Sounds like there was a good<?> turn out.

    Yes, they estimated 150,
    I think 200+

    Lots of locals were upset at No Presentation, nor question and answer.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1712135

    Maybe a dumb question but what happens if you go to one of the infected lakes right now? (might go to either Sylvia or Sugar on Sat.)

    Should be inspectors there giving inbound & Outbound Inspections as permitted by their schedules and budgets.

    With their plan, No Outbound Inspections

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1712183

    I was at this open house and I too expected a presentation and then a Q/A. Arriving in Annandale after a 2 hours drive/commute after work from dntn St. Paul.

    I urge everyone to write/email both the Wright SWCD & MnDNR addresses for this to make sure your comments are heard. See my comments in a letter below.

    Link to proposed plan: http://wrightswcd.org/Water_Management/WRIP_FINAL.pdf

    Here is my letter to the local newspaper at the request of a reporter:

    1st my thoughts on the format for last night. It was not was the vast majority expected. Most expected a presentation from the SWCD & the MNDNR, along with a question & answer time.

    As far as the plan and what I heard from the SWCD Staff as well as what Heidi Wolf from the DNR and then what some of the Lake Sylvia Association Members stated is there is a big disconnect or a few people were lying about what they truely want.

    Lake Assoc. members did not like the level of Fines & Misdemeanor classification the County put into their ordinance.

    From many public members, they fear the Starry Stonewort being brought into other lakes due to “No outbound inspections”. For myself and msny others, this is a serious concetn with a lake that has Eurasian Milfoil, Zebra Mussels, and Starry Stonewort.

    The “Restriction” of times the station would be open, will restrict many activities for people from out of town. A point made by a few people was in the last year they could show they spent from $500 to over $3,000 in Annandale as they came to fish, then eat, buy bait, fuel, lodging, etc. Thus, if this is enacted, that money will dry up, hurting your local business owners. This goes along with many organizations having Fishing Tournaments, where they meet before or after at a Restaurant or Bar and again spending money in these establishments. With the current plan and timing that money will dry up. I was told if a organization wanrs to come in early, they then would have to pay for an inspector, thus once again another restriction.

    Per the SWCD staff if I understood him correctly, there is no way to force property owners to go to the station for inspection/decontamination prior to launching from their property. It has to be ALL or None, thus another conflict. This in essence leads to “Privatizing the Lake” when one group is treated differently.

    I sure hope the business community looks seriously at this, as most small businesses a loss like this will sink them and thus the community the support.

    Thanks for your time.

    Carroll

    Here is an Article, not great but from an MPR Reporter, from which she interviewed me.:
    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/08/23/wright-county-plan-for-mandatory-boat-inspections-gets-public-review

    DNR – [email protected]
    County – [email protected]

    Call &/or Email the Governor & MnDNR Commissioner Tom Landwehr
    Governor Mark Dayton
    Office of the Governor and Lieutenant Governor
    116 Veterans Service Building
    20 W 12th Street
    St. Paul, MN 55155
    Telephone: 651-201-3400
    Toll Free: 800-657-3717
    Contact information: http://mn.gov/governor/contact-us/index.jsp

    [email protected]
    Email: [email protected]
    Phone: 651/259-5022

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1712185

    Here is a question asked by another at the open house Wednesday evening in Annandale:

    What is the History of lakes that have had Starry Stonewort in them for 10, 20 or more years. since first discovered in 1978 in America, what has the history been?

    Does it build up in cycles and die off, then build again similar to what Zebra Mussels do on many lakes?

    I have not found one article which says a lake is now DEAD after being Infested, no, not one article.

    mrpike1973
    Posts: 1495
    #1712198

    Carrol58,
    It was nice meeting you at the Open house if you can call it that.
    Good work, good letter. I’m still calling/sending Emails. I pray the DNR wakes up and sees what lies ahead and does not approve this. If anyone finds out there is another get together of any sorts please let us all know. I need time to ask off of work. Anyone know if there was a timeline the DNR can approve/deny?

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16634
    #1712236

    The DNR has official meetings and backroom meetings. The official meeting and the backroom meetings will often differ. See the Mille Lacs debacle for details.

    clh1968
    Posts: 10
    #1712264

    What about the interior tubes of the trailer? Or people that have to back their tow vehicle in and water gets on it? This is not going to work in the long run.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1712360

    While we were sleeping….

    DENNIS ANDERSON, [email protected]
    Trailered boats are not allowed in Glacier National Park beginning this summer to avoid contaminating park waters with zebra mussels or other invasive species. Kayaks and paddleboards are allowed, but must be inspected by the National Park Service before launching. Suspect craft are turned away. Some are vacuumed clean of minor debris before being approved for launching.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1712366

    Minnesota Lakes and Rivers Advocates protects Minnesota’s lake and river heritage
    by forging powerful links among lakes, lake advocates and policy makers.

    The DNR is taking comments on a proposal, the Wright County Enhanced Inspection and Decontamination Pilot Project, and all lake lovers need to write in support. Use the blue ACT NOW button above to voice your support for a mandatory, regional inspection and decontamination pilot project.

    As Star Tribune outdoor reporter Dennis Anderson recently wrote, “Canada’s western provinces, along with states in the northwest U.S., are serious about keeping aquatic invasive species (AIS) out of their waters. Compared with their efforts, Minnesota’s early attempts in recent decades to prevent infiltration by the same creepy critters appear lame. And, one could argue, Minnesota’s AIS prevention efforts are still lame.”

    Since 2012 the MN DNR has had the authority to set up a mandatory regional aquatic invasive species and inspection program similar to the programs that so impressed Mr. Anderson while he was out West.

    The MN DNR has never made use of this authority. Wright County’s citizens and local governments have stepped up to fill the vacuum of leadership at the State level.

    But Wright County must operate under a delegation authority from the MN DNR, and DNR Commissioner Tom Landwehr has still not signed off on the Wright County pilot project.

    Use the ACT NOW button below to register your support of the Wright County pilot project with the MN DNR public input page.

    Even if you have already written to DNR Commissioner Tom Landwehr, it is important that you post comments on the public input page.

    DENNIS ANDERSON, [email protected]
    Trailered boats are not allowed in Glacier National Park beginning this summer to avoid contaminating park waters with zebra mussels or other invasive species. Kayaks and paddleboards are allowed, but must be inspected by the National Park Service before launching. Suspect craft are turned away. Some are vacuumed clean of minor debris before being approved for launching.
    Despite the fact that there have been 45 public meetings and news articles about the Wright County Water-Related Inspection Pilot Program since January, and despite the fact that the plan has had input from University of Minnesota scientists, Clemson University scientists, MN COLA, MLR, Anglers for Habitat, the Initiative Foundation, MN DNR, business leaders and others since January of this year, the MN DNR asked for one more public meeting before they would consider the program.

    Anglers for Habitat has come out forcefully against the Wright County proposal. Their tone and opposition at this late date is surprising given the fact that Anglers for Habitat steering committee member Jay Green serves on the DNR’s Statewide AIS Advisory Committee as well as the review committee that first vetted the Wright County Enhanced Inspection and Decontamination pilot program grant through the Initiative Foundation.

    Tension on some social media sites and online was rising and so meeting planners decided upon a less contentious “open house” format. Given the tenor of the social media and email messages I saw and received from these nay-sayers in the days leading up to the public meeting, the planners made the right decision.

    At the meeting, the DNR and Wright County Soil and Water Conservation District opened a “public comment” period. It is important for all those who love the lakes to write to the DNR in support of the Wright County pilot project. An outpouring of public support for this long overdue effort will be critical to its approval.

    All this drama for a pilot project on only four of Minnesota’s more than ten thousand lakes, a pilot project based on programs that are working well in Western states.

    I personally apologize to those of you who took the time to attend the public meeting on August 23rd, and were confused and disappointed. I have heard from many of you. But please do know that just by attending you made a huge impact. Citizens in support of the Wright County Pilot project outnumbered those in opposition by a wide margin. You signaled that the vast majority of citizens support a common sense approach to protecting our lakes and rivers from aquatic invasive species.
    Opponents, however, are energized, organized and are ramping up their efforts. Attendance at the meeting is not enough.

    Even if you attended the meeting, and even if you have already written to Commissioner Landwehr and Governor Dayton, we need to make our voices heard in the public input process.

    Use the ACT NOW Button below to support the Wright County program.

    It is wrong for Minnesota’s state agencies to hamstring local water efforts while touring the state asking for more citizen involvement in the 25% by 2025 year of water action.
    ACT NOW
    Thank you for all you do,

    Jeff
    [email protected]

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1712367

    National/State Parks are one place I have no problem with them considering enforcing decontamination or even prohibiting water craft…not a blanket policy but on a park by park basis.

    mrpike1973
    Posts: 1495
    #1712379

    Sadly, I see my boat going for sale soon. Lake associations need to have there decontamination sites set up right at there landings. Under the proposal Wright county has now you get checked before you go to the lake afterwards no check. So save our lake but the next lake that does not have an inspector I guess you just plop it in after coming from an infested water body. I better calm down blood pressure getting high.

    matt
    Posts: 659
    #1712380

    Lakes and rivers advocates policy is the public has no right to Possibly contaminate a lake that homeowners pay high taxes on.I asked this guy why do lakeshore owners who care so much mow to waters edge,install beaches,remove vegetation in the water and on land,cut trees,run draintile?He had no answer.I pointed out some infested waters of this state are known as some of the best fishing waters in the midwest,possibly even the nation.He said all I had were armchair fish stories.I asked him to name bodies of water that ais has rendered a complete useless wasteland,he had none.Lakeshore owners taxes and the publics useage of the lakes are what this advocacy group is about.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1712426

    Lakeshore owners taxes and the publics useage of the lakes are what this advocacy group is about.

    We’ve recognized this for several years… Yet, their voices are only louder… Similar to people in an argument with nothing to stand on… Reason gone, here comes emotion..

    Reason has never played a part with this group and therefore using reason to combat them is useless…

    We have to start thinking like them. I just don’t know how to ) anyone else that dumb?!?

    SpoonbillSlayer
    St. Michael, MN
    Posts: 178
    #1713867

    I got an email update from the county today. It said the proposal was updated and submitted to the DNR on 8/30. Just thought I would share.

    It had this link in it of the proposal and FAQs:
    http://wrightswcd.org/Water_Management/wrip.html

    Not sure exactly what changed, but I did notice it says you have to go to the station for a mandatory inspection and if necessary a boat wash. Can’t remember if that is how it read before.

    It also mentions more clearly that this is just a pilot and the plan is to include more lakes into this plan. I don’t think that was as clear in their early proposal.

    slipbob_nick
    Princeton, MN
    Posts: 1297
    #1713876

    what a joke. check boats going into infested lakes and not check them going out? Can I propose that there be no private accesses in that case and anyone who lives on the lake must go through the inspection when putting a boat in during the spring and wait in line?

    Its so obvious what their trying to do.

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