Lund Rebel – Motors

  • John Huheey
    Posts: 5
    #1622289

    I’m looking for a used Lund 1600 Rebel, but not finding much. I found one used 2003 that has a 9.9 Mercury Kicker, but am worried that its not enough power to trim that sized boat and get around on a larger lake. I also found a new Rebel I’d love to buy from the dealership, but I’m retired and living on a tight budget:(( The new Rebel has a 40HP Merc 4-stroke with no “kicker”. As I’ve never had a motorized fishing boat, I’m worried that a 40HP outboard is too much engine to use for trolling. Could some of you Lund owners give me some guidance? Can you troll with a 40HP Merc 4-stroke or do you need a “9.9 Kicker” on a 16 foot Lund to troll without hurting the main engine? This is probably a stupid question, but I would appreciate your responses.

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #1622292

    You won’t hurt the engine by trolling a lot, but I am not sure how slow you will be able to get it to troll with the 40 4 stroke.

    FDR

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1622321

    That’s a nice setup. 40 should troll down to whatever you want with appropriate sized wind socks. Add wave wackers to go backwards you’re set for most all conditions.

    targaman
    Inactive
    Wilton, WI
    Posts: 2759
    #1622333

    That boat could not handle a 40 and a 9.9 on the back. Way too much motor for that transom. I used to have a rebel with a 40 two stroke and I thought it trolled nicely. A 4 stroke would even be better. For super slow trolling just use the electric.

    puddlepounder
    Cove Bay Mille Lacs lake MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1622340

    A 40hp on that boat is perfect. If you need to go slower than that motor will troll, simply put out a 5gal pail off the front cleat. Way more steering control over drift/wind socks and way, way cheaper.

    MnPat1
    Posts: 373
    #1622346

    I had a 30 Mercury efi on my rebel 16′. It trolled down really well and would go over 30 mph with me and a light load. 2 guys and gear still planed out well and hit upper 20’s. I would not go any less than 30 hp. The older Yamaha 30 2 stroke pushes that boat as good as any 40 with a lot less weight. I think a 40 4 stroke is too much weight for that boat. Good luck in your search.

    Hot Runr Guy
    West Chicago, IL
    Posts: 1933
    #1622348

    John,
    Where are you located, how far are you willing to travel?

    HRG

    trumar
    Rochester, Mn
    Posts: 5967
    #1622350

    I have a 40 hp 2 stroke W/16′ boat and I can troll down to .5 mph

    basseyes
    Posts: 2617
    #1622352

    9.9hp would be pretty much worthless on that boat unless you never wanted to get up on plane.

    40hp would get you to where you needed to go very efficiently and troll down just fine. Best of both worlds.

    Owned a rebel with a 40hp Honda and trolled down just fine. Trolling motor would be ideal. Good solid rigs.

    Not a chance I’d put a kicker on a rebel with a 40hp on the transom.

    John Huheey
    Posts: 5
    #1622387

    I really want to thank everyone for their input. Being new to the game, I have many concerns because I know I don’t know enough about these boats and motors. Just little things like storage costs, the proper sized motor, how to keep batteries charged when I will have to store the boat off my property, etc etc:) But having folks like you who are willing to contribute makes all the difference.

    Most of my fishing will be for bass and walleye – so the right sized front end trolling motor (enough to control the boat in shallow water during windy conditions) and the right sized outboard/prop (enough to get on plane, while good for deep water trolling) is what I am hoping for.

    I’m located in Kettering Ohio and willing to travel, so if any of you know where I can find a used 16′ Lund with a console, let me know. The local dealer wants $15,000 for a 2016 Rebel 1600 with nothing on it except a 40HP Merc 4 stroke.

    Don Miller
    Onamia
    Posts: 119
    #1622393

    I have a 2003 1650 Rebel with a 50 hp Evinrude (Suzuki) 4 stroke tiller. IMO a bit overpowered, I seldom open the throttle all the way and then only if the water is mirror smooth. I cannot go slower than 2 mph on calm water with that motor. Mine has a sticker applied by Lund near the transom that states the weight of the outboard cannot exceed 250 lbs. No way will you get two gas motors under that weight. With a drift sock or the transom mounted electric troller I get by in any situation.

    Ron
    Victoria, mn
    Posts: 812
    #1622408

    If you’re looking for a used boat, you might want to consider other brands to make it easier to find a boat. Consider the Alumacraft Classic, Escape or Lunker (older model no longer built). Other brands might be Crestliner, G2, Tracker. Also, I don’t know how, where or with whom you fish, but I’m not fond of a console in that size boat. It takes up too much floor space. But that’s my opinion only.
    Have you tried searching Craigslist in your area?

    John Huheey
    Posts: 5
    #1622411

    Ron, I’ve been all over Craigslist, but I’m trying to stay away from older boats because I’ve read too many horror stories about inability to find spare parts for older motors, rotten plywood, soaked/mildewed buoyancy foam, etc:). I tend to agree with your preference for the tiller vs console, but my sweetie loves the console, so its a trade-off:)

    John Huheey
    Posts: 5
    #1622417

    Don, I wasn’t thinking of hanging two motors on this sized boat, but was just trying to determine if a 9.9 4-stroke Merc Kicker would be effective (by itself) on a boat this size. I think the consensus is that a 9.9HP is too small for this boat.

    basseyes
    Posts: 2617
    #1622453

    With a front mounted trolling motor you are on the right path. Had a 24 volt bow mount trolling motor on the one I had and it was a very versatile rig. A 24 volt trolling motor would allow you to troll and/or fish for bass with ease. Restored an older 16′ lund with a flat floor for my brother a couple years ago. He’s borrowing a 1979 35hp Evinrude and it does 26-27 mph with 2 guys and gear depending on the wind. The rebel I had would do around 30 mph give or take with 2 guys and gear with a 40 hp Honda 4 stroke. So the 40 hp vs a 35 hp isn’t a huge difference in mph, but the 4 stroke could go forever on a 6 gallon tank of gas vs the 35 hp Evinrude 2 stroke gets a little thirstier and he has to deal with mixing the oil in the fuel.

    Tiller or console is just personal preference. Both have pros and cons. Biggest con with the console is have less room because of the added space the console takes up. If it’s just 2-3 people normally not a big deal. The console is nice for seeing and longer runs.

    Soft floors are always a common concern with older boats, but even newer boats can start the rotting process if kept outside and not covered. With ebay and clist there’s usually someone selling parts somewhere for older outboards. Plus there’s a couple very good parts supply places online that have reasonable prices and carry most everything. Storing batteries in a garage or basement out of the way is the best way to store batteries as long as they are up off concrete floors. Storage costs vary considerably, but there’s usually someone willing to store boats somewhere without totally breaking the bank. Drier sheets stuffed all over the boat are helpful to keep the mouse traffic down somewhat while in storage.

    You seem to have a very good handle on a lot of the things that go into buying and owning a boat, and are going into it knowing you don’t know everything and willing to ask a lot of questions. That’s good, never stop asking questions. If you don’t know something ask. I always feel like I’m asking dumb questions, but if I don’t know something, it’s the only way to learn. Plus the fishing/boating market is always changing or there’s a better product or way of doing something and it’s hard to keep up with it all without a constant learning curve.

    trumar
    Rochester, Mn
    Posts: 5967
    #1622465

    John you have a PM

    dld24
    Posts: 347
    #1623035

    I have a 92 Lund Rebel with a 40hp mariner on it I have been pondering putting up for sale….Motor runs great with a 55pd powerdrive w/ipilot.

    John Huheey
    Posts: 5
    #1623095

    Well gang, I finally decided to go “whole hog” – I’m buying a new 2016 Lund Rebel 1600 from my local dealer. He gave me a great price and threw in a bunch of extras. The boat has a 40 HP Merc 4 stroke, and everything I need. I finally decided to put the money into a new one because I’m 70 and want to concentrate on fishing instead of worrying about what might go wrong on an older used boat. Thanks to everyone for helping to answer my questions. I’ll post a picture when I take delivery in a few days:)

    basseyes
    Posts: 2617
    #1623163

    Awesome! Good luck with it.

    Those rigs with a 40hp 4 stroke are great rigs. Good on fuel and you still get good speed out of them with a great fishing platform.

    DonG
    Posts: 122
    #1636941

    JH, glad to see you went that route, I did the same thing. The 40 Merc on my 2016 pushes me and my gear right at 30 mph. at 6000 rpm’s which is just fine for me. I was thinking the extra motor route like you but everything I’ve read besides the room to mount it will eliminate the thought. I really like mine so far and their really made well. I went to Erie to get mine, couldn’t get a better deal around me.

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    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1636994

    JH, glad to see you went that route, I did the same thing. The 40 Merc on my 2016 pushes me and my gear right at 30 mph. at 6000 rpm’s which is just fine for me. I was thinking the extra motor route like you but everything I’ve read besides the room to mount it will eliminate the thought. I really like mine so far and their really made well. I went to Erie to get mine, couldn’t get a better deal around me.

    Don, Nice rig…have fun with that. Bigger boats with the “kicker” motors are mostly because the main engine is 150+ hp, up to 300 and those bigger motors just don’t idle down or troll as effective as a small ob.
    Anyway… welcome to IDO ! wave

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