Structure Scan Question

  • Dave Koonce
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    Prairie du Chien Wi.
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    #1306646

    Is there a speed minimum or maximum to get the results on the structure scan ?

    John Schultz
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    Portage, WI
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    #873287

    My experience has been that I get my best picture when traveling between 1 and 4 mph. Not sure what the recommended speed is though. My problem has been figuring out where to set the contrast to get the best picture.

    jwelch
    Iowa
    Posts: 48
    #873301

    I just got mine but I agree with John, 1 to 4 or 5 mph is probably optimum but you’ll get readings as long the transducer is in the water.

    I also have read that the bird units you get the best reading when travel in a straight line. I haven’t really paid that close attention to my lss-1 to see if holds true with lowrance. I’m guessing it does.

    John, I’ve had mine out only two times. I have messed with the contrast alittle. If I remember right, I think I liked between 50% and 60% the best so far. What % do you like the best?

    Jeremy

    John Schultz
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    Portage, WI
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    #873343

    I’ve been running my contrast anywhere from 50% up to 80%. When I’m in shallow water, it seems better set low, and higher in deep water. I would say it spends the most time around 70, but I seem to be constantly adjusting it to see what difference it makes.

    Ken Sauret
    Paso Robles, California
    Posts: 164
    #873439

    I find the Structure Scan reads great up to the speed that my Ranger wants to get up on pad. I get the same pic from sitting still to about 10 mph. My Ranger has a step that is shallower that the pad so when I’m going fast the transducer is out of the water. As soon as I let off the gas and the boat settles into the water the Structure Scan instantly aquires the bottom when it makes contact with the water.

    Be sure to use 455 khz for deep water and 800 khz for shallow water. As far as contrast goes I run mine about 70 but it is always good to experiment with different water conditions to find the right setting for you.

    dandorn
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    #873571

    Quote:


    Is there a speed minimum or maximum to get the results on the structure scan ?


    Optimal operating range

    minimum = .5 mph

    max = 10.0 mph

    Dave Koonce
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    Prairie du Chien Wi.
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    #873594

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Is there a speed minimum or maximum to get the results on the structure scan ?


    Optimal operating range

    minimum = .5 mph

    max = 10.0 mph


    I am no doubt looking in the wrong places for information…

    thanks Dan and thanks everyone !!

    Dave Koonce
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    Prairie du Chien Wi.
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    #873820

    When hooking up the power cord. It says to hook the yellow wire to a switch on the dash..Are you guys using the accessories switch, or rigging up a new switch ?

    dandorn
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    #873827

    Quote:


    When hooking up the power cord. It says to hook the yellow wire to a switch on the dash..Are you guys using the accessories switch, or rigging up a new switch ?


    You can connect the yellow wire from the LSS-1 to an HDS
    and supposedly it will power the unit when you power up the
    HDS.

    Another option is to wire it through a switch and then to a fuse panel.

    The last option would be to hook it direct to a fuse panel that has a master shut off switch.

    bassn7
    Bruce,WI
    Posts: 776
    #873839

    hook the yellow wire from the HDS to LSS1 and when you turn on the HDS it will power up the LSS1,I was told that this is the perferred method,to hook up the stucture scan. it works good I origanaly wire the LSS to the power and it was on even when the HDS was off so I rewired it yellow yellow and it’s the nicest way to go IMO
    Stan

    Dave Koonce
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    Prairie du Chien Wi.
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    #873863

    OK So…

    Just so I understand..

    LSS1 yellow to the HDS yellow

    right ?

    and the next question..I had a couple Pos and neg terminals left under the dash… HAD…no longer do…Should I hook up another hook up in the fuse box and run it directly ? Or, can I tap into the Pos and Neg of my HDS unit ?

    bassn7
    Bruce,WI
    Posts: 776
    #873871

    I ran out of spots too so I pulled 2 more wires to the back and hooked up direct to my main battery for my LSS1 and put the fuse back there.
    Stan

    John Schultz
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    Portage, WI
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    #873938

    You got the yellow to yellow correct.

    I don’t know a lot about power, but I was out of terminals as well. I put the blacks from the HDS and LSS together and the reds together, and then connected those to the terminals that my LCX-27 had been connected to. I have both reds fused between the units and where they are joined together. It is also run through my breaker panel. Probably not the right way to do it, but so far, it has worked without issue.

    Dave Koonce
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    #873977

    Quote:


    I ran out of spots too so I pulled 2 more wires to the back and hooked up direct to my main battery for my LSS1 and put the fuse back there.
    Stan


    this is the option I went for…were all hooked up and ready to play !!!

    Dave Koonce
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    #874006

    I have a 09 619 Ranger..I mounted my transducer under the step up area at the back of the boat..How are you guys attaching the ducer cable to the transom ?

    John Schultz
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    Portage, WI
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    #874124

    Quote:


    I have a 09 619 Ranger..I mounted my transducer under the step up area at the back of the boat..How are you guys attaching the ducer cable to the transom ?


    I used screws and cable clips, but I have a tin boat. You’ll probably want to use duct tape.

    Dave Koonce
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    #874141

    Quote:


    Quote:


    I have a 09 619 Ranger..I mounted my transducer under the step up area at the back of the boat..How are you guys attaching the ducer cable to the transom ?


    I used screws and cable clips, but I have a tin boat. You’ll probably want to use duct tape.


    Smart A$$ !!!

    I was out with it today…there will be a small learning curve

    dandorn
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    #874183

    If I owned a glass boat I would use these adhesive backed mounting bases, shown in the pic., whenever possible.

    The cable then gets cable tied to the mounting base.

    I’ve used these on my ATV and they have held strong for
    two seasons. (GPS antenna cable)


    Dave Koonce
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    #874233

    Thanks Dan !!

    John Schultz
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    Portage, WI
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    #874301

    Quote:


    I was out with it today…there will be a small learning curve


    I hear that. I’ve been out with mine 4 times and still spend a lot of time playing with it. I love the down scan. The thing I am having the hardest time with is getting it set so I can see fish off to the side of the boat. It paints structure really nice though.

    Dave Koonce
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    #877243

    I was out last night playing with the controls of the Structure Scan, I really like this feature for the HDS unit… One thing I came across is that when I turn on the accessory switch for the SS transducer my color palate changes on my split screen. and when I turn it off the normal color palate comes back…

    Does this happen to anyone else ?

    John Schultz
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    Portage, WI
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    #877308

    I don’t have mine on a switch, so I can’t say I’ve seen that one.

    Dave Koonce
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    Prairie du Chien Wi.
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    #877317

    I tried hooking it up to the yellow…I did not get any juice from it

    John Schultz
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    Portage, WI
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    #877385

    Quote:


    I tried hooking it up to the yellow…I did not get any juice from it


    I’m guessing you did it wrong maybe? Were the red and black wires connected to something that had juice?

    I wired my lss and hds power cables to the battery, and the yellow wires from each one together. I turn on my HDS, and my LSS powers up with it.

    Ken Sauret
    Paso Robles, California
    Posts: 164
    #877478

    John did the wiring perfect. Black is ground for each power cable, red is hot for each cable. When you connect the two yellow wires together, one from the HDS unit power cable and one from the LSS-1 power cable this makes the power button on the HDS unit the main power for both the HDS unit and the LSS-1. When you hit power on the HDS unit both power up at the same time.

    Dave Koonce
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    Prairie du Chien Wi.
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    #877569

    I did exactly that…but when I hooked up the yellow wires together, I Got Nuthin

    Ken Sauret
    Paso Robles, California
    Posts: 164
    #877618

    Make sure you have the latest version of software in your HDS unit as this feature was not in the original units but included in a later update.

    Dave Koonce
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    Prairie du Chien Wi.
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    #877748

    Nope ???

    I tried the yellow wire again today, and I got nothing..no power..

    I do have the most up to-date software downloaded ….

    bassn7
    Bruce,WI
    Posts: 776
    #877784

    if you have power to the LSS1 hook a jumper wire to the positive on your batttery to the yellow from side scan and the side scan box should light up if not no input power or bad SS
    Stan

    Dave Koonce
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    Prairie du Chien Wi.
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    #882881

    tried again yesterday to hook up the power to the yellow to yellow…no dice !!

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