LiTime Batteries!

Considering trying LiTime lithium trolling motor batteries. Anyone have any experience with them?

I think Bearcat is running them. I am sure he will see this and let you know.

I have a couple buddies that have used them with no issues. I bought 3 this fall but haven’t installed them yet.

I’ve been running them for the last 3 seasons. I got the 24v 100ah. My cousin has been running them also. He’s had his the last 4 seasons with no issues. He’s got 2 12v Minnie’s. Not sure the Ah on his. So far both of us are pleased with them.

I have a full season on my 2 12v 100ah batteries and really like them so far. They lasted many consecutive hours of run time on a couple different trips that I didn’t have a charger for 3 plus days. I would buy again, but again I’ve only had them for 1 season.

This was year 2 for me on the 36 volt I have 2 in parallel I believe the are 55 amp hour. No issues and can run hard almost all weekend.

This price looks great.
I know I was going to buy a set after talking to Bearcat about his batteries.

LiTime 12V 100Ah Marine Battery for Electric Outboard Trolling Motor

Anyone using a Minnkota precision 440 pc on these ? Not the PCL… There’s mixed reviews on if the PC will work on lithiums on the agm setting.

I was just about to comment on the charger. Make sure yours is compatible before buying new batteries.

I thought James Holst had posted in other threads that the PC charger will charge them on the AGM setting.

Full draw wrote:

I thought James Holst had posted in other threads that the PC charger will charge them on the AGM setting.

That 189 battery you posted, I would buy that in a heart beat if I needed lithiums. At that price it’s worth the gamble.
As for chargers. A multi charger like the noco I run will charge lead acid, agm, and lithium. It’s a 100 dollar up charge and I repurposed my other charger for something else. But you can always sell the current charger to offset the 100 or 150 dollar cost.

gim wrote:

I was just about to comment on the charger. Make sure yours is compatible before buying new batteries.

Lithium chargers aren’t expensive. Hardly a reason to shy away.

Thanks for the input
Ordered the 24v 100AH battery and LiTime charger.

The issue for me is still the cold. My boat is outside almost year round so charging in the cold is a no go. Hopefully somebody gets that issue sorted out.

I think eventually the future of batteries is solid state. They are still very expensive but like anything the techonogy will improve, more companies will enter the market, and the price will drop.

https://solidstatemarine.com/

Matt Moen wrote:

The issue for me is still the cold. My boat is outside almost year round so charging in the cold is a no go. Hopefully somebody gets that issue sorted out.

It’s been sorted out for some time.

They make heated lithiums, they cost more but can be charged in the cold.

B-man wrote:

It’s been sorted out for some time.

They make heated lithiums, they cost more but can be charged in the cold.

Not completely. Litime says the self heating works down to -4. There are some temps the self heating can’t overcome. I realize in a boat it’s going to be pretty rare or never to need to charge that low though.

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Matt Moen wrote:

The issue for me is still the cold. My boat is outside almost year round so charging in the cold is a no go. Hopefully somebody gets that issue sorted out.

Could this issue be solved with a simple heating pad, one that you use on your back? Just plug it in on low and place it in the battery compartment. Should bring temp up enough for charging?

If it helps- You aren’t supposed to leave lithium’s on a continuous trickle charge when not in use. If you hit the river mid winter on “warmer” day, you can charge them after quick; but wouldn’t have them plugged in during a cold spell like this.
But I don’t fish the river in the winter and bring my lead acids in side each winter.

Red Eye wrote:

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The issue for me is still the cold. My boat is outside almost year round so charging in the cold is a no go. Hopefully somebody gets that issue sorted out.

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This is a fire waiting to happen.

When I talked to Dakota and Norsk last year they said for boats sitting in the cold on a charger, you should either remove the batteries or stick with lead acid or AGM. Removing in the best option but getting them out of the nose of my Reata is a chore. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze at this point.

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Could this issue be solved with a simple heating pad, one that you use on your back? Just plug it in on low and place it in the battery compartment. Should bring temp up enough for charging?

Reef W wrote:

Not completely. Litime says the self heating works down to -4. There are some temps the self heating can’t overcome. I realize in a boat it’s going to be pretty rare or never to need to charge that low though.

Another thing is it says to use charge above 10a to use the self heating. Anybody actually tried to see if a 10a onboard will activate the heating?

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The coldest I’ve ever launched a boat in was -3°

Everything went fine, but I know I’ll never do that again. We froze our balls off

I like to see daytime highs in the mid twenties 20’s or higher, colder than that and everything just sucks (equipment/line freezing, icy boat deck, etc)

Matt, a heating pad would probably work, as would a 100 watt trouble light in the battery compartment.

I’ve launched in the single digits..not worth it.

With how fast the tech is changing on Lithium batteries I’ll wait until they can consistently handle the cold temps. Nothing ruins your day on the river faster than a dead TM battery.

isu22andy wrote:

Anyone using a Minnkota precision 440 pc on these ? Not the PCL… There’s mixed reviews on if the PC will work on lithiums on the agm setting.

I talked to an Amped outdoors rep about this as that’s the charger I have and he said it was ok to use the AGM setting to charge their lithiums but you may not get a full 100% charge. I went 24v for my trolling motor and have a Yamaha outboard so I can’t run a lithium house battery with my motor but when I need a new house battery I may go with a FLA battery for the motor and lithium for everything else.

Currently Li-Time has their self heating 12v, 100 ah at $259. The 12v, 140 ah non-heating at $259.

The questions is which model and how low will their prices go. Unfortunately I purchased mine about 10 months ago or I would be jumping all over this. Can one have too many batteries?

OG Net_Man wrote:

Currently Li-Time has their self heating 12v, 100 ah at $259. The 12v, 140 ah non-heating at $259.

The questions is which model and how low will their prices go. Unfortunately I purchased mine about 10 months ago or I would be jumping all over this. Can one have too many batteries?

Maybe it doesn’t matter but their warranty is only 5 years versus 10 and 11 for Norsk and Dakota. For all of them you have to ship the battery back in before they replace. That could mean a couple weeks off the water. At least with SLA I can get a replacement and be back on the water in a couple hours.

Reef W wrote:

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Not completely. Litime says the self heating works down to -4. There are some temps the self heating can’t overcome. I realize in a boat it’s going to be pretty rare or never to need to charge that low though.

Another thing is it says to use charge above 10a to use the self heating. Anybody actually tried to see if a 10a onboard will activate the heating?

Note quite the complete answer but.. I was watching a video of the Li-Time self heating unit. The tester was running a 20 amp charger. When the battery was cold and the charger then attached it was pulling between 9.3 amp and 9.6 amp for the heating element when it kicked on. I was curious how long it took the heater to warm up the battery sufficiently for it to start charging. I believe that the battery was tested around 28 degrees. Unfortunately the video on the Li-time the tester had just walked away and came back about 30 minutes later and the battery had warmed up already and it was in the charge mode. I assume time will vary depending on how cold but….

I was told by Amped batteries that the older precision PC chargers will charge lithium batteries, but it will be painfully slow. If you want to use a Minnkota charger get the PCL. If you just fish a day or two and it can sit for the week to charge the PC will work

isu22andy wrote:

Anyone using a Minnkota precision 440 pc on these ? Not the PCL… There’s mixed reviews on if the PC will work on lithiums on the agm setting.

Matt Moen wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>OG Net_Man wrote:</div>
Currently Li-Time has their self heating 12v, 100 ah at $259. The 12v, 140 ah non-heating at $259.

The questions is which model and how low will their prices go. Unfortunately I purchased mine about 10 months ago or I would be jumping all over this. Can one have too many batteries?

Maybe it doesn’t matter but their warranty is only 5 years versus 10 and 11 for Norsk and Dakota. For all of them you have to ship the battery back in before they replace. That could mean a couple weeks off the water. At least with SLA I can get a replacement and be back on the water in a couple hours.

I suppose if you charge 3 times more in price it is pretty easy to have a longer/friendlier warranty.

Can any one have too many batteries? I suppose if one of my Li-Times failed I would just slap my Interstates back in my boat and be right back out on the water. Then I can worry about the warranty when I get around to it.

Wait you can’t leave your lithiums in your boat go to freeze ? Say it dips into the teens ? I understand you can’t charge them under 20 degrees but storage you gotta yank em every time ? That’s incredibly annoying if you want to fish any warm spells on the river . Last year was great for that.