Leech lake zebra muscles

  • Jonesy
    Posts: 1148
    #1695258

    Had a watercraft inspector check out my boat on Saturday. Told me that last fall they discovered larvae of zebra muscles in 2 bays. Going to be interesting to see what happens the next few years up there.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1695264

    IMO, the next 2 years are gonna be critical in regards to long term management of the lake, and perhaps others.

    IF, I say IF, being very presumptuous at this point, but if we start seeing ill effects of the slots with the zeeb populations still relatively low it will not give the scientists of the fish world reason to put any kind of blame on the zeebs themselves. And if that is the case, maybe that knowledge might trickle over into other lakes….

    Jonesy
    Posts: 1148
    #1695309

    The lady was talking about how they are trying to restrict their spread in leech. I asked her if that has every been successfully done on any lake once they are in and she said no. She talked about how they are excited because they discovered a bacteria in soil that is very effective at killing them. Said they are testing to see what effects it has on the natural species.

    Been going to leech for 14 years. Too bad. Hard to have good feelings anymore about the lake. Seems like slots are going to kill the fishery in a few years and now with zeebs I think we are going to see a dead see like we did 10ish years ago.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11670
    #1695400

    Zeebs seem to be the AIS du jour, after many others that were supposed to ruin and choke out our lakes (rusty crayfish, spiny waterflea, purple loosestrife, curly leaf pondweed, Eurasian milfoil etc.), yet somehow mother nature finds a way. The fishery and zeebs seem to get along on Erie, where they have been for decades (along with many other examples). The slot is more of a concern imo, but still not something that is permanently devastating just causes a larger than normal fluctuation in certain species biomass. I haven’t fished the lake long enough, nor often enough during that time to form my own opinion. But it sure does seem to be a higher percentage of big fish being caught, and I think we will see the DNR implement limits similar to Red (w/ 1 fish over 20″ allowed) on more lakes in the near future.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1695420

    The fishery and zeebs seem to get along on Erie, where they have been for decades (along with many other examples). The slot is more of a concern imo, but still not something that is permanently devastating just causes a larger than normal fluctuation in certain species biomass.

    But, but, but, but Leech and Erie are apples and oranges. whistling

    skeeter20
    Winnie/Grand Rapids,MN
    Posts: 902
    #1695422

    I cant remember when they first found larvae in Winnie but last fall when we pulled the dock out was the first year I actually saw one in the lake.

    On opener this year we caught many attached to weeds or on our jigs. The water is much clearer then ever before. 12FOW looks like 6.

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1695423

    Zeebs seem to be the AIS du jour, after many others that were supposed to ruin and choke out our lakes (rusty crayfish, spiny waterflea, purple loosestrife, curly leaf pondweed, Eurasian milfoil etc.), yet somehow mother nature finds a way. The fishery and zeebs seem to get along on Erie, where they have been for decades (along with many other examples). The slot is more of a concern imo, but still not something that is permanently devastating just causes a larger than normal fluctuation in certain species biomass. I haven’t fished the lake long enough, nor often enough during that time to form my own opinion. But it sure does seem to be a higher percentage of big fish being caught, and I think we will see the DNR implement limits similar to Red (w/ 1 fish over 20″ allowed) on more lakes in the near future.

    Couldnt agree more Bigworm!

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1695426

    I cant remember when they first found larvae in Winnie but last fall when we pulled the dock out was the first year I actually saw one in the lake.

    On opener this year we caught many attached to weeds or on our jigs. The water is much clearer then ever before. 12FOW looks like 6.

    Seriously last ice trip on Winnie was sight fishing perch in 18′.

    I’m looking at it this way now. There is only so much biomass to go around. We see this in lakes in the northern shield of Canada were it has thousands and thousands of acres of water but very few fish per acre, compared to the likes of pool 2, 4, or your shallow pothole lake out west were you get a lot of runoff from farming, residential, etc and water is chock full of fish bc of the added nutrient load. Zeebs simply take some of that out. Instead of “a lot” of the bottom of the food chain stuff floating around being fed on by other bottom of the food chain stuff, there is now millions of mussels sitting on the bottom, providing almost nothing to the system other than cleaner water. In some cases its good bc many of our waters are crapped in from many different sources, so some “filtering” or cleansing is beneficial, other lakes don’t need that and they simply will take away from the biomass allowed. How much, IDK, but it does.

    Anyone worried about the water quality on Leech? Does it seem like it would benefit from a good filtering? A “fish crash” seems like it would need to involve a few factors to happen, slots allowing a larger average size fish possibly creating a baitfish shortage, as well as exploding zeeb populations taking a slice from the bottom of the food chain…..that’s getting attacked from above and below, ouch.

    Joe Scegura
    Alexandria MN
    Posts: 2758
    #1695537

    Vertical jigging will become much less common as we move forward. Getting away from the boat will be a necessity.

    Jonesy
    Posts: 1148
    #1696196

    Vertical jigging will become much less common as we move forward. Getting away from the boat will be a necessity.

    Bummer my favorite way to fish

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8241
    #1696229

    Water clarity will skyrocket in the next 5 years. The increased weed growth at depths of 10’+ is also going to force walleye anglers to change tactics. I also think Leech Lake bass will carve out a larger portion of the lake’s biomass over time.

    If you add together a growing population of protected 4+lb walleyes, higher bass populations, more angler pressure, a potential shortage of forage and young walleye recruitment, it sounds eerily similar to a story I’ve read about somewhere before……

    Jonesy
    Posts: 1148
    #1696591

    Water clarity will skyrocket in the next 5 years. The increased weed growth at depths of 10’+ is also going to force walleye anglers to change tactics. I also think Leech Lake bass will carve out a larger portion of the lake’s biomass over time.

    If you add together a growing population of protected 4+lb walleyes, higher <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>bass populations, more angler pressure, a potential shortage of forage and young <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>walleye recruitment, it sounds eerily similar to a story I’ve read about somewhere before……

    Pretty much my concerns.

    munchy
    NULL
    Posts: 4931
    #1702202

    But I thought pulling the drain plug was supposed to prevent the spread?!?
    moon

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1702244

    Then the walleye population will plummet like on Mille Lacs.

    Jonesy
    Posts: 1148
    #1706820

    So any update on how bad they are getting?

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