Last reminder for public input on Pool 4

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1764938

    The U. S. Army Corp of Engineers (USACE) is hosting the public meeting on April 4th and seeking feedback on the conceptual feature designs drafted for restoration. From our conversations, it is clear that the USACE, WI DNR, and other partners are truly interested in incorporating local comments into their final analysis. As such, it is imperative for everybody to attend the public meeting. If you cannot attend, please email LPLA your comments on the draft concept maps.

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    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1764940

    Additionally…

    Major design questions that the public needs to weigh in on include: a channel plug in the Catherine Pass area and the dredge channels that are necessary for restoration equipment to access the project areas. The USACE will be sharing the dredge channel alternatives at the public meeting. LPLA does not have these maps to share. So, please attend.

    gregory
    Red wing,mn
    Posts: 1628
    #1765326

    How the meeting go??? missed it. Thanks

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1765365

    It was standing room only with very few fishermen present. Most were pleasure craft owners.

    They rolled out a new map showing how they would dredge the area for their equipment to access the areas they were going to work on.

    One of the routes went right through Katrina (Catherine Pass). A number of folks complained that in the summer months they can’t get through Katrina as it’s filled in.

    One suggestion (from the public) that I thought was valid, was to close off 5th cut that would keep the main channel sediments out of the bay areas. Seemed good to me more so because the maps they were using was showing how the sedimentation was flowing. They used aerial photos from high water events that had a TON of sediments.

    Rylee Main answered that question about what would happen if we did nothing. Using the suspended loads they have record of, the Lake would be filled in in around 350 years.

    These folks are good at answering pointed questions without giving an answer. OR I can’t ask the question correctly.

    OK, they are planning on completing this project to keep the head of the lake from filling in with sediments. After the work is completed the sediments that would normally settle out at the head of the lake will be going further down stream (yes creating a problem down further).

    What’s to stop the Corp from starting another project further up stream to accomplish similar results in this upstream area? Will the additional sediment load will end up in this project area and negate any improvements made?

    Not going to happen?
    Three years ago the WI DNR wanted to close off 3 cuts on Pool #3 because 60% of the sediment going into North Lake was coming from them. By closing them, that 80% (this number changes depending on whom your speaking with) would then be headed to the head of the lake to be filtered out. Luckily, the MN DNR wouldn’t sign off on the projects and it was abandoned.

    Personally, I believe that all money and political resources should be spent working on the Minnesota River. Since the Corp, by law can only work in areas where there is a 9′ navigational channel, there isn’t any funding or legal means to tackle that elephant.

    What this is all about…

    Continuing Authorities Program: Beneficial Use of Dredged Material, Section 204, Upper Pool 4 – Lake Pepin

    Posted 9/16/2016
    Updated March 2018

    Location/Description
    The project area is located near the head of Lake Pepin in Upper Pool 4 of the Mississippi River. The proposed project area would be located between river mile 780 and 792 in the backwater complexes adjacent to the main channel.

    Lake Pepin extends about 22 miles in length from the delta of the Chippewa River to approximately river mile 787, which is about 3 miles downstream of Red Wing, MN. Upper Lake Pepin consists of channel border islands and backwater lakes grading into an expansive, shallow open water area with little physical structure.

    Sedimentation and sediment resuspension caused a loss in water depth diversity of the backwater lakes and isolated wetlands above Lake Pepin as well as a loss in aquatic vegetation. Concerns over habitat deficiencies in Upper Pool 4 include reduced habitat diversity and quality, lack of aquatic vegetation and invertebrates, and reduced abundance of fish and wildlife.

    Status
    The Lake Pepin Legacy Alliance requested a study in December 2015. In April 2016 the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, St. Paul District received $50,000 to initiate a feasibility study. A federal interest determination was completed in June 2016 and was approved in August 2016. A feasibility study was initiated in fiscal year 2017 and will be completed in fiscal year 2019.

    The project will utilize dredged material from Pool 4 to improve the ecosystem at the head of Lake Pepin. In this Section 204 project, the operations and maintenance program (100 percent federal) will pay up to the cost of typical dredged material disposal; remaining costs are funded through the Section 204 program. Potential alternatives may include the construction of new islands of various sizes, dredging and improving adjacent floodplain forest that would create a range of habitat types for fish and wildlife.

    Authority
    Section 204 of the Water Resources Development Act of 1992, as amended.

    Fiscal
    The federal interest determination and feasibility study will be prepared at full federal expense. If it is determined the project is feasible, the design and implementation phase of the project will be cost shared at 65 percent federal and 35 percent non-federal for the costs above the operations and maintenance program, with a total federal maximum contribution not to exceed $10 million.

    Federal funds allocated to date: $300,000.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8175
    #1765383

    The can is being kicked down the road (or river) with each and every project. People assume the corps is looking out for the good of the resource at all times. Unfortunately it is all about maintaining a shipping channel. For those that are unaware, the lower end of P4 has some major issues of its own. The corps has been attempting to seize land in and around the Nelson WI and Wabasha MN areas to dump this nutrient loaded sediment. One family farm was scheduled to forcefully lose ~300 acres of land. The lower end of the lake near Reads Landing becomes almost impassible with the large dredging operations just attempting to stay ahead each summer.

    Plugging passes and other areas on the Northern end of the lake will just speed up the current in some areas, keeping the sediment suspended until it reaches another 1/2 mile or so into the lake where it will then be deposited.

    Every dime spent dealing with sediment in or near Lake Pepin is a complete waste. This is the equivalent of spending money daily, cleaning up $hit in your house instead of figuring out why the sewer is backed up. Head to Southern MN and Western WI and demand changes with development projects and farmland.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1765393

    Long term, I agree with everything you said ^ peace

    (Some of the island material will be coming up from Reeds Landing)

    TheCrappieFisherman
    West Metro
    Posts: 211
    #1765482

    Yup, one has to look beyond lake Pepin, or any other water body for that matter, for a long term permanent solution. These are watershed scale sized problems if we really want fixes.

    Problem is pretty much all of central and southern Minnesota eventually drains in to the Mississippi and contributes to the sediment load. The problem doesn’t stop at the Minnesota boarder though. There are some solutions out there but nothing is short term. Hard change something that has been going on for generations.

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    gregory
    Red wing,mn
    Posts: 1628
    #1765554

    Thanks bk, I am not happy about missing meeting,but i figure if its like anything like nelson bottoms a few years ago they had public input meetings,but it was clear they had a agenda and by law like a job they had to “post” it but in the end they new what they were gonna do..Thanks

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1765608

    ,but it was clear they had a agenda and by law like a job they had to “post” it but in the end they new what they were gonna do

    Maybe I’m a believer? But I do think they were looking for public input on a couple of things. One was the question to close Katrina or not.

    I do believe the Corp will do something… but I like to believe they are being up front when saying the comments will be used in the final plan.

    gregory
    Red wing,mn
    Posts: 1628
    #1765627

    Well that’s good, any talks of more meetings in future?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1765662

    Gregory, the best resource by far is the Lake Pepin Legacy Alliance.
    Sign up for their news letter or like their page on facebook.

    It’s their full time job to know what’s going on and they do a great job of keeping everyone informed.

    Link to Website

    No, you don’t have to donate and become a member to get the news letter but of course they would appreciate it.

    Facebook Page

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1765713

    If you missed the meeting, here’s the full presentation along with the Q&A afterwards.

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