Kimberly Potter Trial

  • B-man
    Posts: 5792
    #2079697

    I have heard very little about Dauntee shooting someone in the head. Is this information a lie or hoax? Have charges ever been filed? Where does that case stand?

    I posted a link earlier, but here’s a different one.

    In the story it also alleges that Daunte has been part of a street gang since he was 12….

    That’s some great parenting there if it’s true.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kstp.com/articles/lawsuit-alleges-daunte-wright-shot-permanently-disabled-teen-in-2019-6125232.html

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2079750

    B-Man, I couldn’t find anything in his MN criminal background like that.

    B-man
    Posts: 5792
    #2079759

    B-Man, I couldn’t find anything in his MN criminal background like that.

    It was a civil suit filed against him. He was never criminally charged for it.

    I could be way off base, but I feel that a case involving non-gang members garners more attention and investigation, and is more likely to be solved and have criminal charges placed.

    As an example, a teenage girl getting raped will have more effort put towards it than a 2 am gang murder in an alley.

    Some may call it systemic racism, but when there’s shootings EVERY DAY and a murder almost every other day in the TC metro (much of it gang related), resources are spread thin and not every crime is solved.

    Again, totally my opinion.

    Brad Dimond
    Posts: 1450
    #2079761

    I honestly don’t feel bad for Wright, a little more so for his family since they have to deal with all of the fallout. I truly feel sorry for Kimberly Potter. Regardless of the outcome of the trial she will go through the rest of her life knowing that she killed someone because she made a horrible mistake. That’s a lot to carry around.

    Karry Kyllo
    Posts: 1267
    #2079764

    So you feel more sorry for the officer that shot and killed Wright than you do for Wright and his family?
    Wow. Are you actually serious?

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #2079771

    This wasn’t good for anybody. Let the court sort it all out.

    Timmy
    Posts: 1235
    #2079774

    So you feel more sorry for the officer that shot and killed Wright than you do for Wright and his family?
    Wow. Are you actually serious?

    I agree with Brad. I feel for her – and do not feel for him. His situation was 100% avoidable by his own choosing. Her reaction/mistake occurred in the stress of a moment that was caused by him and him alone.

    Like was said earlier – play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I feel for her and hope she can cope in healthy ways. And yes – I feel for his family. Due to his stupid choices, they suffered a loss, and that is sad.

    Tim

    Brad Dimond
    Posts: 1450
    #2079778

    So you feel more sorry for the officer that shot and killed Wright than you do for Wright and his family?
    Wow. Are you actually serious?

    Yep. Cops get put in a lot of situations that create tremendous risk and stress and get blamed for all bad outcomes. Look at suicide/divorce/chemical dependency rates for first responders in general and cops in specific. By all accounts Kimberly Potter was a good cop who got caught up in an escalating set of bad choices by all involved in that traffic stop. Daunte Wright was responsible for all of the downstream badness that resulted from his choice to run, bears the majority of the responsibility. Kimberly Potter will live with the outcome for the rest of her life.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11909
    #2079781

    So you feel more sorry for the officer that shot and killed Wright than you do for Wright and his family?
    Wow. Are you actually serious?

    I also agree with Brad and many others. And Yes I’m actually serious. If you feel worse for this POS criminal gangbanger and his Family than you do for a police officer who spend her life trying to protect you and others, I say WOW. Are you serious !!!

    Brittman
    Posts: 1940
    #2079802

    Look at what happend to first responders in West St Paul a few nights ago. Two people are reported shot. First responders are surrounded by a crowd. Reporter s report crowd members try to take the victims vehicle ??

    Massive support from nearby city, county and State Patrol to control the situation.

    2 Shot In West St. Paul; Officers From Multiple Departments Called To Secure Scene

    Umy
    South Metro
    Posts: 1948
    #2079803

    Brad, Timmy, Fishthumper are right.
    Horrible set of circumstances to say the least. I Have enough family, relatives, neighbors, co-worker spouses of cops and work with enough of a S. metro police office and their liaisons to know that most of us don’t deal with this BS every day and see the same crap happening time and again because the consequences either don’t get enforced or they get off for some minute detail. At the Eagan Best Buy today at 2:00pm and now my tax dollars are paying for a cop to sit there and watch the door. Play with fire and you get burned. Whether you are on camera burning cars in Minneapolis or on camera running out of Best Buy. Should be caught, prosecuted and dealt with. Why aren’t we? Problem is it seems someone else always gets burned too.
    Yes, I am also serious. Too many cases to reference

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #2079804

    20+ years ago Mpls firefighters from certain stations weren’t allowed out of the fire trucks until the cops were on the scene. Nothing new here, just a lot more of it or so it seems.

    Karry Kyllo
    Posts: 1267
    #2079809

    Brad, Timmy, Fishthumper are right.
    Horrible set of circumstances to say the least. I Have enough family, relatives, neighbors, co-worker spouses of cops and work with enough of a S. metro police office and their liaisons to know that most of us don’t deal with this BS every day and see the same crap happening time and again because the consequences either don’t get enforced or they get off for some minute detail. At the Eagan Best Buy today at 2:00pm and now my tax dollars are paying for a cop to sit there and watch the door. Play with fire and you get burned. Whether you are on camera burning cars in Minneapolis or on camera running out of Best Buy. Should be caught, prosecuted and dealt with. Why aren’t we? Problem is it seems someone else always gets burned too.
    Yes, I am also serious. Too many cases to reference

    Right in whose eyes? What are you a bunch of vigilantes? Don’t tell me about cops, my son was a deputy sheriff for years and cops are not the judge, jury and executioner. If the jury decides that this was nothing more than a terrible accident so be it but according to the laws in this country Daunte Wright definitely did not deserve to die for anything that he’d done.

    B-man
    Posts: 5792
    #2079816

    Karry I don’t believe anyone here believes he “deserved” to die.

    But some people including myself agree that HE put himself into a bad situation (again).

    What was his best case scenario doing what he did? Get away for a day and have the same situation play out again tomorrow?

    What was the worst case scenario?

    I said it earlier. He absolutely did not deserve to die for his actions, but he certainly earned it, even though it was an accidental shooting instead of an intentional tasing.

    If I did the exact things he did I would be tased too. If I had a violent history involving firearms I would expect even more (figuring the police would think I was going for a gun)

    But…. I’ve never been tased or arrested before, mainly because I don’t threaten people with guns, run from the police with illegal guns, shoot people in the head, and most of all I listen to police officers directions ‘en stuff which WOULD HAVE GIVEN ME MY DAY IN COURT.

    If you did what he did would you expect a sticker and a pack of bubblegum?

    He didn’t want his day in court and didn’t want to be a better person.

    Instead of following his bail guidelines after threatening to kill a women, pointing a gun at her, and choking her….he decided it would be a good idea to carry a gun around and run from police. He also had a civil suit looming over his head for shooting someone in the head. His intentional actions cost him his life.

    HE put Kim Potter and himself in that situation.

    That’s where the lack of sympathy is coming from.

    Beast
    Posts: 1121
    #2079820

    BAH BAH BAH,,,Criminals have rights, What about the victims rights? Shouldn’t they be able to feel safe after they have dealt with these POS once? why should they have to deal with them again because of the catch a release program that’s seems to be sweeping the nation? why are these career criminals having any privileges in prison or even jail? it’s suppose To be a punishment? A criminal is a criminal , skin color shouldn’t even be a fact that coincided,and a step forward would be for the black community to accept that.you take the parents and the kid in the recent school shootings, about everyone I know says throw the book at them, ever hear the black community say,” that guy is a A_HOLE throw the book at him” all I hear from the likes of Sharpton is condoning undesirable behavior. and they wonder way this crap goes on and on

    gregory
    Red wing,mn
    Posts: 1628
    #2079836

    BAH BAH BAH,,,Criminals have rights, What about the victims rights? Shouldn’t they be able to feel safe after they have dealt with these POS once? why should they have to deal with them again because of the catch a release program that’s seems to be sweeping the nation? why are these career criminals having any privileges in prison or even jail? it’s suppose To be a punishment? A criminal is a criminal , skin color shouldn’t even be a fact that coincided,and a step forward would be for the black community to accept that.you take the parents and the kid in the recent school shootings, about everyone I know says throw the book at them, ever hear the black community say,” that guy is a A_HOLE throw the book at him” all I hear from the likes of Sharpton is condoning undesirable behavior. and they wonder way this crap goes on and on

    Right and they always say they were just straightening out there life and turning a corner for the good. Then they show pictures of them holding a child and just like that there a perfect person!!

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17296
    #2079956

    Karry I don’t believe anyone here believes he “deserved” to die.

    Oh I disagree. Read through this thread and you will see multiple posts indicating he got what he deserved.

    Opening statements are this morning.

    Deuces
    Posts: 5236
    #2079960

    20+ years ago Mpls firefighters from certain stations weren’t allowed out of the fire trucks until the cops were on the scene. Nothing new here, just a lot more of it or so it seems.

    During the riots they some weren’t allowed until they had national guard backup.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13294
    #2080018

    Right in whose eyes? What are you a bunch of vigilantes? Don’t tell me about cops, my son was a deputy sheriff for years and cops are not the judge, jury and executioner. If the jury decides that this was nothing more than a terrible accident so be it but according to the laws in this country Daunte Wright definitely did not deserve to die for anything that he’d done.
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    I’m guessing cops are not judge,jury and executioners unless you put them in a position to be just that.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2080029

    The law defines when deadly force can be used. This wasn’t one of those instances.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6013
    #2080039

    The law also defines what intent is. coffee

    -J.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11909
    #2080041

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>B-man wrote:</div>
    Karry I don’t believe anyone here believes he “deserved” to die.

    Oh I disagree. Read through this thread and you will see multiple posts indicating he got what he deserved.

    Opening statements are this morning.

    I never said he deserved to die. I said I feel worse for her and her family than I do for him and His. My earlier comment also said she does deserve some punishment for her mistake, and I believe she will get some. At some point we will find out how much. My guess is she will get more than I feel she deserves.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11909
    #2080048

    The law defines when deadly force can be used. This wasn’t one of those instances.

    I would say from the post Brian made about the use of deadly force. This situation fits several of the qualifications – As least as far as I interpret the legal def. I guess thats what the trial will determine.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2080057

    I guess that what the trial will determine.

    This is the correct answer. Too many here don’t even think there should be a trial. This is exactly how you define authoritarianism.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11909
    #2080060

    Right in whose eyes? What are you a bunch of vigilantes? Don’t tell me about cops, my son was a deputy sheriff for years and cops are not the judge, jury and executioner. If the jury decides that this was nothing more than a terrible accident so be it but according to the laws in this country Daunte Wright definitely did not deserve to die for anything that he’d done.

    A few questions for you Karry Kyllo:

    You said your Son was a Deputy Sheriff – So if this same incident where to have happened to him – you are saying you would still feel more sadness for the criminals family than for your son and his family?

    You said he WAS a deputy Sheriff – Is he no long one? If so, do you care to share why not?

    I’m just trying to get a understanding of why you seem to have such powerful feelings for the rights and treatment of Criminals.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17296
    #2080067

    I never said he deserved to die

    I wasn’t specifically referring to you.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11909
    #2080070

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>fishthumper wrote:</div>
    I never said he deserved to die

    I wasn’t specifically referring to you.

    I know. I just wanted to clarify my statements on the subject.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #2080077

    I’m just trying to get a understanding of why you seem to have such powerful feelings for the rights and treatment of Criminals.

    Im guessing its more of a case he has powerful feelings for the rights bestowed upon American citizens, something i would assume the people of IDO would also feel strongly about but time and time again im proven wrong. A criminal is someone convicted in a court of law. the things B-Man is posted about in this thread were not things Duante was convicted of.

    I dont want to speak for Karry but i think what hes standing up for is the rights of Americans as laid out in our constitution – something most people here seem to think is not worth a damn given the right circumstances. Regular citizens and criminals alike have the same basic right human rights in this country.

    Ill let the courts decide who is to blame for this incident or if there is any

    stout93
    Becker MN
    Posts: 959
    #2080088

    So you feel more sorry for the officer that shot and killed Wright than you do for Wright and his family?
    Wow. Are you actually serious?

    Yes, I am. I will not lose one second of sleep over his death.

    “Everybody feels so horrible for this man, but no one takes the time to see how horrible of a person he was,” says a Minnesota woman who police allege Wright choked and robbed at gunpoint.

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