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Broncos are getting a good qb , wish vikings wouldve hung onto him .kinda pissed this morning

Time to order your Cousins jersey.

Not sold on him … 30 million a year could cripple the vikings . Mark my words he’s not worth it .. Case Keenum took us to the nfc title game playing for one or 2 million .at this point i hope we resign Bradford and Bridgewater we need some stability, not keep changing hands every year . If Bradford can stay healthy he’s legit Bridgewater may require some time to get back in the flow if he’s the guy .

Ya I don’t understand Vikings thoughts!! Keenum played great and took us one game away from super bowl— plus wasn’t his fault way we lost to Eagles– more defense that couldn’t stop them!! Plus Keenum knows the team n players already- sick of this swinging door quarter backs–not gaining much more if we get Cousins anyways!! Just my opinion

I hear the vikes have reached out to Brees. The Saints offered Brees low 20 million. I say offer Brees top money for two years, if nothing else it will force the saints to pay top money. I would rather have Brees than Cousins.

As a Broncos fan, I’m pretty underwhelmed this morning.

Karry Kyllo wrote:

Time to order your Cousins jersey.

Bingo

Morel King wrote:

at this point i hope we resign Bradford and Bridgewater we need some stability, not keep changing hands every year . If Bradford can stay healthy he’s legit Bridgewater may require some time to get back in the flow if he’s the guy .

You want stability, but then use the word “if” regarding the two most iffiest free agent QBs. Cousins has not missed a single game as a starter in his career and any contract that he signs will be for at least 3 years. Sure it will be a lot of money, but if you want stability, out of those 3 guys (even 4 if you include Keenum) Cousins is by far the most stable option.

Keenum fan here. Just liked the way he brought THIS team together. Prediction. We get Cousins. Then he goes down to a career ending knee injury in game 3. Then another 5 years of misery….

We are doomed.

-J.

Jon Jordan wrote:

Keenum fan here. Just liked the way he brought THIS team together. Prediction. We get Cousins. Then he goes down to a career ending knee injury in game 3. Then another 5 years of misery….

We are doomed.

-J.

It’s like the “GroundHog’s Day” movie. It just keeps happening over and over. Prediction: The Vikings stink for a few years, start to show some improvement, and then make it to the NFC championship game in 2027, where they lose 44-6.

SR

Not a fan of Case, it was just one of the years it worked out. I do not see the Broncos doing any better than the Vikes with him.

Sure we might not win the SB but Cousins seems to make it through a season and has some good upsides and will have better talent around him with better D. if we really sign him.

Thing that sucks we might not have the money now to sign the D guys who’s contracts are coming up this year and next.

I loved watching Keenum and he is a very good player, very sad to see him go.

Morel King wrote:

Bridgewater we need some stability

Bridgewater just doesn’t have the “fire”. He has the same expression all of the time. Plus he just isn’t very good. Watch his “highlight reel” of 6-8yrd passes. I really think Bridgewater has arm issues. He can’t lift his elbow above his shoulder, which gives him a chicken arm looking throw. On the bright side I’ve never seen a quarterback throw a ball higher than Bridgewater… a 20 yard pass goes 15 yards in the air! I truly hope Bridgewater isn’t wearing Purple this fall.

I would have been happy with Cousins or Keenum. I can’t watch Bridgewater try to throw a ball. Lastly, did I mention I don’t think Bridgewater is any good?

Hoyt4 wrote:

Not a fan of Case, it was just one of the years it worked out. I do not see the Broncos doing any better than the Vikes with him.

Sure we might not win the SB but Cousins seems to make it through a season and has some good upsides and will have better talent around him with better D. if we really sign him.

Sorry man this whole post contradicts itself.

Hoyt4 wrote:

I do not see the Broncos doing any better than the Vikes with him.

Case got us to the NFC championship game where the D lost us the game! Now you say Cousins is a way better option because he may be able to do as good as Case did??? Sorry, I’m not following.

Hoyt4 wrote:

Thing that sucks we might not have the money now to sign the D guys who’s contracts are coming up this year and next.

This I 100% agree with.

Since they haven’t signed anybody yet it would be quite comical if the Vikings ended up with their practice team quarterback after losing Keenum, Bridgewater,Bradford.

what i find amuzing is all this news about all these signings, where all these players are supposed to be headed………….BUT its not legal till 3 pm tomorrow….wed 3-14-18!!!!!!!

Dutchboy wrote:

Since they haven’t signed anybody yet it would be quite comical if the Vikings ended up with their practice team quarterback after losing Keenum, Bridgewater,Bradford. grin

I was thinking the same….

-J.

I liked Keenum this year, seems like a great guy, but I will be extremely excited if we get Cousins.

Keenum always seemed to underthrow our receivers on deep passes. He was really good on short to medium length passes, but those long throws always either came out too late or had the receiver coming back to the ball. The 2nd game against the packers we missed out on like 3 TDs as a result. Cousins has a stronger arm, could we finally be a vertical threat again?

Is $30MM a lot of money? Heck yeah, but Keenum will get ~$20MM. That’s just the QB market and it will continue to go up. Cap keeps going up, but if you want to pay for a QB in free agency, you have to pay the piper. In a couple of years you’ll have Rodgers/Wentz/Watson make more than that. Heck, Garoppolo got $27.5MM/year after playing well for 5 games!

Now, if the Vikings had a long history of drafting and developing QBs into franchise players I might feel differently. That’s obviously not the case, so I’d be happy to see us pony up and sign good QB.

Keenum isn’t PROVEN, he had one good year (14 or so games worth) otherwise there’s a reason why he was a backup QB on the other 3-4 teams he’s been on. (we saw hints of it throughout the season (the terrible INT in the Saints game as an example) The amount of money he was likely asking for (we still don’t know yet) it would have been too big of a risk of him going back to his old (bad) QB ways…

Cousins has been proven his entire career and he’s got a better arm than Keenum…I’m all for locking up the QB slot for the next 3-5 years with a proven winner and forgetting about it. The money is what it is, good QB’s get paid! I’d be worried if my team had a superstar QB who’s contract is coming up! Their contract $$ number should be ridiculous!

BUT if they don’t get Cousins tomorrow, do you go back to Teddy with a bionic knee 1 bad hit from retiring?

Why not upgrade to Cousins? We saw what the Vikings were able to do with a game manager, why not a guy who is a bit of a game changer?

Case had a great year, but it was a statistical outlier from the rest of his professional career. Seems like a great guy, and wish him all the luck in the world. But Cousins is significantly better, and the Vikes will potentially have a franchise QB for the next decade if they wish. The argument that this is too much money, haven’t been following the QB market or the Vikings salary cap situation. If what’s reported is true (3 years 28 million per), the Viking will front load the contract now while they have the cap space, which will lower Cousin’s cap # going forward to the low 20’s range and allow them to resign most of their own guys.

TL;DR: In the words of Randy Moss, Superbowl Homeboy!

mplspug wrote:

Why not upgrade to Cousins? We saw what the Vikings were able to do with a game manager, why not a guy who is a bit of a game changer?

Upgrade to Cousins? I don’t know…I’m still wondering why Washington upgraded from Cousins to Alex Smith??

Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:

Upgrade to Cousins? I don’t know…I’m still wondering why Washington upgraded from Cousins to Alex Smith??

They downgraded significantly, and it was entirely due to how poorly they handled Cousins up until now. Cousins was begging for a long term deal the last few years from Washington (which ironically would have been at about $18m a year), and they franchised instead and leaked BS to the media about him. Thus there was no way he was going to resign there, so they had to take Smith or be left out to dry with no QB. The Redskins are one of the most dysfunctional franchises in the league, and are now going to have to pay the price for it. Alex Smith’s best season was last year at 4k yards and 26 TD’s, which would be Cousins 4th best season in half the time.

BigWerm wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:</div>
Upgrade to Cousins? I don’t know…I’m still wondering why Washington upgraded from Cousins to Alex Smith??

They downgraded significantly, and it was entirely due to how poorly they handled Cousins up until now. Cousins was begging for a long term deal the last few years from Washington (which ironically would have been at about $18m a year), and they franchised instead and leaked BS to the media about him. Thus there was no way he was going to resign there, so they had to take Smith or be left out to dry with no QB. The Redskins are one of the most dysfunctional franchises in the league, and are now going to have to pay the price for it. Alex Smith’s best season was last year at 4k yards and 26 TD’s, which would be Cousins 4th best season in half the time.

Yep, I don’t follow as close as I once did but what you are saying here is exaclty what I found out how Washington “mishandled” dealing with Cousins.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

(the terrible INT in the Saints game as an example)

When I read this I couldn’t help but picture Brett Favre…

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Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mplspug wrote:</div>
Why not upgrade to Cousins? We saw what the Vikings were able to do with a game manager, why not a guy who is a bit of a game changer?

Upgrade to Cousins? I don’t know…I’m still wondering why Washington upgraded from Cousins to Alex Smith??

Upgrade to Alex Smith! HA! You clearly haven’t watched Cousins play much and also must not know much about how the Redskins are run. They are on track to be the next Cleveland Browns. These people saying Keenum is on the same level are BLOWING MY MIND. Can’t wait for Vikings fans to be able to watch what a real QB looks like!

Don’t you guys want someone that can still win a game when our D doesn’t show up? I didn’t see Keenum do that once last year. Cousins has had to do that for the last 3 seasons with the Skins’ basement defenses.

Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:

Upgrade to Cousins? I don’t know…I’m still wondering why Washington upgraded from Cousins to Alex Smith??

mahtofire14 wrote:

Upgrade to Alex Smith! HA! You clearly haven’t watched Cousins play much and also must not know much about how the Redskins are run.

@Mahtofire14 Sarcasm!

I thought this one was pretty clear Andy.

It’s not clear when half the state feels that way.

mahtofire14 wrote:

It’s not clear when half the state feels that way.

I think most people here are excited to see what Cousins can do if we get him. I really haven’t read too much negative… other than it’s a lot of money. But to get a chance at someone good it’s going to cost a lot.

Half the state? Just curious, where you got these numbers from?

mplspug wrote:

Why not upgrade to Cousins? We saw what the Vikings were able to do with a game manager, why not a guy who is a bit of a game changer?

This! I love Keenum. Not because I thought he was a superstar, but I think he did an effective job, didn’t cost us a game IMO and was just an all around great guy, BUT, Cousins is a better proven QB.
Keenum had many misses throughout the season. There were a lot of times that guys were WIDE open and he didn’t get them the ball. yeah, that happens NBD and we really cannot complain too much about where he got us, but at some point those plays can cost you. I think Cousins will do a better job of that. It is no secret his stats have been considerably better throughout his career, he is still young and we have arguably much better talent than the Redskins so he should be able to excel here.
I am sure the deal will be front-loaded so more money is spent in the first year of the deal to make it easier to sign others in year 2 and 3 of his deal.
Honestly, just looking off stability and stats from Cousins, if we get that level of play and durability from him, I will gladly lose one of our D studs because we cannot sign him in order to FINALLY have a QB we can count on for several years.

Joe Scegura wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
It’s not clear when half the state feels that way.

I think most people here are excited to see what Cousins can do if we get him. I really haven’t read too much negative… other than it’s a lot of money. But to get a chance at someone good it’s going to cost a lot.

Half the state? Just curious, where you got these numbers from?

Sorry I was talking about the Skins Fanbase liking Smith over Cousins. But there is plenty coming from MN as well. Probably not half though.

Don’t you guys want someone that can still win a game when our D doesn’t show up? I didn’t see Keenum do that once last year. Cousins has had to do that for the last 3 seasons with the Skins’ basement defenses.
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Werent the skins 7-9 last year?? I wouldnt say he put the team on his back and prevailed.. Heck if 7-9 is carrying the team, Hundley is a stud!!