Well as much as I disagree with his cry baby antics to sit through the anthem, as an American it his freedom to chose whether or not he sits or stands.
How many of you at home get off the couch and stand for the anthem? Maybe you shouldn’t be so hypocritical?
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>deertracker wrote:</div>
Taken from Twitter..If you don’t stand, you’ll sit.
That’s what Team USA hockey coach John Tortorella said when asked about the Colin Kaepernick protest.
The former Rangers coach told ESPN, “If any of my players sit on the bench for the national anthem, they will sit there the rest of the game.”
Tortorella will be coaching the United States team in the World Cup of Hockey, a two-week tournament that begins Sept. 17.
Copyright 2016 Newsday
Shouldn’t be a problem, not a lot of African-American dudes playing hockey in the US.
Dustin Byfuglien…although I will give you he probably doesn’t have the same experience growing up in Roseau.
I’m wondering where all the media and forum rage is surrounding US Women’s soccer player Megan Rapinoe?
I mean I know why it hasn’t been as big of a deal…
look at the 
full stands… 
What’s next ? A Pro Bowler laying on the lane flipping double birds while the anthem is playing ?? “LOOK AT ME… LOOK AT ME !!!” (irrelevant people trying to become relevant)
look at the
full stands…
I doubt if either of the fans even noticed.
look at the
What’s next ? A Pro Bowler laying on the lane flipping double birds while the anthem is playing ?? “LOOK AT ME… LOOK AT ME !!!” (irrelevant people trying to become relevant)
You guys are confusing me.
-Kaepernick is disrespecting every military veteran ever and our country because he kneeled during the national anthem. Get out of our country, etc. etc.
-Pro women’s soccer player does the same thing and is…’irrelevant’. Haha look at the dumb girl no one watches soccer who cares.
Irrelevant because there aren’t fans there? Irrelevant because she’s a women? Irrelevant because it’s soccer and not football? Irrelevant because you can’t use ‘protecting our sacred flag’ as a mask for racism when the protester is white?
Face it, this girl could have taken a dump on the flag during the halftime show at the super bowl and there’d be 1/100th the outrage that noted not-white guy Kaepernick got.
I’m wondering where all the media and forum rage is surrounding US Women’s soccer player Megan Rapinoe?
Or Brandon Marshall last night.
And, I think some people in this thread might want to take a baby aspirin so they don’t stroke out on Sunday when the whole Seattle Seahawks team takes a knee as they are planning. 
Well as much as I disagree with his cry baby antics to sit through the anthem, as an American it his freedom to chose whether or not he sits or stands.
How many of you at home get off the couch and stand for the anthem? Maybe you shouldn’t be so hypocritical?
To-shay, brilliant.
To me the flag and anthem are sacred and to pay homage to our country is patriotic. Its stands for who we all are. The anthem and flag doesn’t stand for a perfect country, but the greatest country where people have the ability to change wrongs and express ourselves. And that is what the flag represents to me.
So TO ME, when you burn a flag or sit out an anthem, you aren’t interested in fixing this country or working with everyone. It’s more an expression of giving up on this country and turning your back on your fellow countrymen.
Sitting at home when the anthem is playing on a TV is not the same as when you are in the stadium where it is being played. When I am in a stadium I stand, face the flag and take my cap off and put it over my heart. My eyes are fixed on the flag the entire time. At home the camera will pan the crowd, pan the players, get a close up of the douche players that are sitting on the bench. Its not the same.
So if someone stands in a stadium, but sits at home, it isn’t hypocritical.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>big_g wrote:</div>
look at theWhat’s next ? A Pro Bowler laying on the lane flipping double birds while the anthem is playing ?? “LOOK AT ME… LOOK AT ME !!!” (irrelevant people trying to become relevant)
You guys are confusing me.
-Kaepernick is disrespecting every military veteran ever and our country because he kneeled during the national anthem. Get out of our country, etc. etc.
-Pro women’s soccer player does the same thing and is…’irrelevant’. Haha look at the dumb girl no one watches soccer who cares.
Irrelevant because there aren’t fans there? Irrelevant because she’s a women? Irrelevant because it’s soccer and not football? Irrelevant because you can’t use ‘protecting our sacred flag’ as a mask for racism when the protester is white?
Face it, this girl could have taken a dump on the flag during the halftime show at the super bowl and there’d be 1/100th the outrage that noted not-white guy Kaepernick got.
I will type s l o w e r…. Colon did it first… (he did it twice and nobody noticed.. so he was sure to point it out) it had an impact, that is what he was looking for. Now some unknown soccer player does it, but faces the flag on one knee ? Is that the same as sitting on a bench with your head down ? Not quite…. that is why I ask, who is next and to what level do they have to go to get the same recognition that Colon got ? (what does race have to do with anything ? do you play that card all the time ? very confused by your colored glasses you wear)
Please copy and attach where I said colon disrespected every veteran ???
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>big_g wrote:</div>
look at theWhat’s next ? A Pro Bowler laying on the lane flipping double birds while the anthem is playing ?? “LOOK AT ME… LOOK AT ME !!!” (irrelevant people trying to become relevant)
You guys are confusing me.
-Kaepernick is disrespecting every military veteran ever and our country because he kneeled during the national anthem. Get out of our country, etc. etc.
-Pro women’s soccer player does the same thing and is…’irrelevant’. Haha look at the dumb girl no one watches soccer who cares.
Irrelevant because there aren’t fans there? Irrelevant because she’s a women? Irrelevant because it’s soccer and not football? Irrelevant because you can’t use ‘protecting our sacred flag’ as a mask for racism when the protester is white?
Face it, this girl could have taken a dump on the flag during the halftime show at the super bowl and there’d be 1/100th the outrage that noted not-white guy Kaepernick got.
Looks like you hit the nail on the head. A lot of the outrage is based on skin color.
The fact that the NFL is allowing this crap at all and not taking a stand is a complete disgrace to the flag and all who have died for it or who have been seriously injured for it.
I feel the NFL now needs to hold teams like the 49’rs and Seawhawks owners liable. And if the NFL doesn’t then the Supreme court should hold the NFL liable to hold the teams liable to hold the players liable, on and on.
There a difference between having the right to voice your opinion and then taking a dump on the foundation established to give you that right in the first place.
Ever since they took the word “God” out of the pledge of allegiance in schools was the beginning to a lot of this crap going on in today’s society.
From my first post on the locked thread…..
Quote “He is irrelevant and will be cut and go away… hey it’s our right to refuse to support him too.”
Your race card does not work here guys… who was the 2nd person to sit in the front of the bus, after Rosa Parks did it ? ……. exactly my point.
Looks like you hit the nail on the head. A lot of the outrage is based on skin color.
So if Aaron Rodgers sat down for PETA, there wouldn’t be outrage?
Those who refuse to admit any indifference or prejudice against another, because of ANYTHING… skin color, physical or mental deformity, religion, any abnormality… I find are the most racist of all. It is human nature to see something different and not be quite comfortable with it until you get familiar with it. Those who have beat nature and instantly trust and love everything… they often refer to themselves as “colorblind” in this situation. They are the true racists.
I will type s l o w e r…. Colon did it first… (he did it twice and nobody noticed.. so he was sure to point it out) it had an impact, that is what he was looking for. Now some unknown soccer player does it, but faces the flag on one knee ? Is that the same as sitting on a bench with your head down ? Not quite…. that is why I ask, who is next and to what level do they have to go to get the same recognition that Colon got ? (what does race have to do with anything ? do you play that card all the time ? very confused by your colored glasses you wear)
Please copy and attach where I said colon disrespected every veteran ???
Did he point it out though? I thought some reporter asked him about it? He’s trying to bring awareness to something, so ummm, having people hear about it is kind of important.
I don’t think the speed of your typing is the problem. If you think any of these people are doing this for personal glory or recognition then I think you miss the point. He’s trying to draw attention to what truly is a problem in this country of ours. Is there personal recognition/fame gained also? Yes, but that doesn’t invalidate the protest or the reason for doing it.
It just seems like there are some arbitrary lines being drawn, and when I see arbitrary lines or rules, it’s usually rooted in something…not arbitrary. But maybe you guys could write the rule book on what is okay or not okay to do from a national anthem perspective?
-Sit on bench instead of stand. NOT OKAY.
-Kneel on ground instead of stand. Okay as long as you’re not the first person to do it?
-Eye contact with flag plays some factor too I guess? What if there is a tall person in front of me, should I move to a different spot or ask him to crouch down?(Is it okay to crouch down?)
-Does being a professional football player have an impact on what is okay or not?
I mean shouldn’t we setup a strike force at every sporting event to find the people who are more interested in pokemon than the anthem and bash some skulls?
I’m not playing a race card, I’m calling out that this entire situation at it’s core is rooted around growing racial tension, and a lot of times people say stuff like ‘Colon is a just a drama queen/spotlight seeker’ because they don’t want to admit that there IS a problem and that they might be part of it.
well based on the protest, we should ship all cops to cuba and the court system can go away too, because there are no trials and people are on paid leave. I suggest if your gonna protest something that has absolutely nothing to do with what your protesting, make sure you work out your protest story first ??? If that makes sense ??? (about as much sense as protesting at an NFL game, because percentage wise, fewer blacks are shot and killed by police than whites ???) see how clear as mud this issue is… that is why it is not so easy to solve. How can you solve a perceived problem,(one the media told you about) that has a bigger problem the media, hence people, ignore (whites shot dead by cops at a higher rate) ??? makes a guy go hmmmmmm…………. just facts.
Hank Williams Jr. might think there is a double standard. Monday night football isn’t the same without him.
Those who refuse to admit any indifference or prejudice against another, because of ANYTHING… skin color, physical or mental deformity, religion, any abnormality… I find are the most racist of all. It is human nature to see something different and not be quite comfortable with it until you get familiar with it. Those who have beat nature and instantly trust and love everything… they often refer to themselves as “colorblind” in this situation. They are the true racists.
G, I have the exact same belief. Everyone is prejudice and being prejudice is not the same as being racist, not even close.
From my first post on the locked thread…..
Quote “He is irrelevant and will be cut and go away… hey it’s our right to refuse to support him too.”
Your race card does not work here guys… who was the 2nd person to sit in the front of the bus, after Rosa Parks did it ? ……. exactly my point.
So again, it’s only an outrage to America if you’re the first person to do it? I just don’t understand. Maybe try typing slower again.
The big deal was that Kap disrespected our country right? So when someone else does the exact same thing later we don’t care and it’s no longer disrespectful?
I guess if the only thing people are reacting to here is disrespect to our country then I would expect a proportional amount of outrage when anyone takes part in ‘disrespectful activity number 1’.
But it’s obvious that there’s something more outraging about Kaepernick than Rapinow. Man I just can’t put my finger out on it!
Pug, great minds think alike. Just like the people/media who call Trump a racist, because he wants to build a wall to keep out illegal immigrants and send illegals back to their country without immunity. The racist are the people who assume ALL illegal immigrants are from Mexico… they are not all from Mexico, but the racist people only see them as an issue, when it is all races that are here illegally. Just like they only see black people shot by cops, never the whites even though they are at a much higher amount. Our country is not perfect, but when you have media creating racial tension and ignore the even bigger one’s, your doomed to fail.
I think I can put my finger on it. Colon is high profile and gets a lot of ink so people get mad. When Rapinow did it, I would be willing to bet that most people had no clue who she was? I had never heard that name before.
His protest and disrespect is viewed and heard by millions and was a protest of our country. Hers was in front of a handful of people and was a support of him. People naturally get more worked up over something that is against their beliefs when it gets a lot more ink.
Those who refuse to admit any indifference or prejudice against another, because of ANYTHING… skin color, physical or mental deformity, religion, any abnormality… I find are the most racist of all. It is human nature to see something different and not be quite comfortable with it until you get familiar with it. Those who have beat nature and instantly trust and love everything… they often refer to themselves as “colorblind” in this situation. They are the true racists.
‘It is human nature to see something different and not be quite comfortable with it until you get familiar with it.’
How long will it take America to ‘get familiar’ with non-white races exactly? “We are just letting these good ol’ boys do a little work on our plantations until we get a littttle more familiar with them, you see they are different than us and that makes us scared.”
Prejudice does not necessarily = racism, but that doesn’t make prejudice a good thing.
Prejudice:
preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.
Sure, everyone has prejudices. But NOT everyone has a prejudice towards black people, or mentally handicapped people, or woman, that’s not how it works. Sorry if in your little world everyone is prejudiced towards black people or woman or what not, that sure as hell doesn’t mean everyone in the world also shares those prejudices.
If you drew a venn diagram of people who are prejudiced towards black people and people who are racist towards black people, guess what, you’d have a heck of a lot of overlap.
Racism:
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.
A little bit of overlap there?
Maybe treating other humans as inferior to me because they are different just doesn’t actually sound okay to me? I guess that makes me the most racist of all though.
tickle, you realize all races have prejudice and all races have racism ?? right ?? (and yes, you are exactly who I refer to, those who cannot fathom admitting their own injustices)
Phil, honest question. If you walked into a room with people just like you and then walked into a room of people completely different from you, which would you be more comfortable in?
Actually Nevermind. I’m bored with this and it’s the weekend.
I mean yeah, that’s like a really good argument for folks to try to make themselves feel better, so I encourage you to keep using that. Colorblind my ass, I see lots of colors, I just don’t treat someone as inferior if they are a different color than me. I like the deflection though. I’m not racist you see, in my defense I will say that you are in fact racist because of you saying that you are not racist, that should get the focus off of me for awhile!
“Everyone is prejudiced about something! That makes racism less bad because that’s one form of prejudice and everyone is prejudiced! If you can’t admit that you’re prejudiced about something then that makes you racist or just as bad as a racist or something.
I mean my neighbor, he doesn’t like dogs, he’s never had one but he thinks they are dangerous. So you see, he is prejudiced towards dogs, totally exactly the same thing as me believing that these human beings are inferior to me because of what race they happen to belong to. So don’t look down on me man, because you have prejudices too, and they are all equal in atrociousness to how I feel about ‘those other races’ ”
And no where have I said that the only racism that exists is white on black, so if that’s the tree you’re barking up you are again just making ridiculous arguments/generalizations based off of things I haven’t said, which you are quite adept at by the way. There is black racists, white racists, asian racists, etc. DUH.
The current topic is about someone protesting how black people have been treated by white police officers. So the topic at hand is white on black racism that I am talking about. I encourage you to open a Chinese/Japenese racism thread if you so choose, it will have very little to do with this discussion though.
If you’d like, I can type a bit s l o w e r if you need to understand why I’ve been talking about white/black racism. I’d be happy to oblige.
Is that satisfyingly condescending enough?
simply, tickle and answer honestly (if that is possible) when more whites are killed by police as a percentage, over blacks… what do you think the problem is… racist police ? Chew on that awhile and try to answer honestly and then figure out what Kaepernick should have been protesting…honestly.
Since you are so interested in numbers mr. G
America is comprised of 63% white people to roughly 12% blacm people according to the latest US consensus.
The US jail system is comprised of 37% black people
According to the Washington post as of Jan 2015 1502 people have been shot and killed by an on duty police offer; 732 white, 382 black, the others listed as unkown. Considering the disparity in population between white people and black people that makes a black person 2.5x more likely to be shot by a police offer than a white person
Furthermore, the same amount of umarmed whites and blacks were shot by police: 50. Again considering the population disparity that makes an unarmed black person 5x more likely to be shot than an unarmed white person.
These facts were taken from the United states concensus bureau, the Washington post, and admittedly, the bit about the jailhouse population came from Wikipedia. You can argue that source if you like but you wont convince anyone that the jails aren’t filled with a lot of black people.
So, here we are with some percentages and facts for you.
Please tell me your source isn’t your drinking buddy randy
you have no credibility crapie… 
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