Jonesing For a Daiwa SV Reel

  • Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1870
    #1679915

    From everything I’ve read and watched about the SV spool this winter it seems that Daiwa has come up with something truly revolutionary in helping to eliminate backlashes. I really want to a couple of them this year, but right now even at eBay prices they are beyond my budget. Maybe when the Tatula SV is released at The Classic some will start dropping into the upper range of what I’m willing to spend for a reel.

    hookem
    Hastings,Minn.
    Posts: 1027
    #1679977

    I was thinking the same thing until I started pricing them. flame Will be waiting too coffee

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1679978

    It’s got the fast spool change system. Just buy 3 extra spools and tell yourself it’s like buying 4 reels at $100. Your welcome. wave

    red89
    Hudson
    Posts: 918
    #1680031

    Tackle Warehouse has the Daiwa SS SV 103 JDM Casting Reel on sale for $199, that’s $150 off MSRP. Might be worth checking out.

    The new ones won’t be on sale anytime soon, so I always go with the old/closeout models.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1680081

    has come up with something truly revolutionary in helping to eliminate backlashes

    Usually a thumb works..

    What exactly have they done

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1680094

    Usually a thumb works..

    What exactly have they done

    Air brake system. That’s right, your reel will sound like a tractor trailer coming to a stop every time you cast.

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1870
    #1680100

    Usually a thumb works..

    What exactly have they done

    Well, I had a stroke and my finger dexterity isn’t what it once was, but it’s still good enough for 95% of the fishing I do. Skipping a Fluke or a jig under a dock. Even before the stroke my thumb wasn’t skilled enough to really do these things. I also anticipate being able to throw jerkbaits farther in the wind with an SV reel.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1680115

    Very interesting. I wonder how it will instantly react when the spool is flinging line the instance the bait hits the water. Aka backlash. I imagine some thumb must still be a retirement for any light lure your trying to whip.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1680225

    So this is the first time I have heard of the reels. I can’t find much information about how the air brake works, but from what I read, it’s made for light lures and special applications? In the video he says the system slows the spool down, in a normal application I wonder how much that would affect casting accuracy?

    The one thing I like that I wish more manufacturers would do is make a spool that holds less line. The only downside being that you’d have to respool sooner with break offs and retying? But I don’t like letting my line get too low as it takes away a little distance.

    Mr. Derek
    NULL
    Posts: 235
    #1680226

    I’d like to see the daiwa sv spool go against the shimano digital control. I have heard good things about both.

    Bass Pundit
    8m S. of Platte/Sullivan Lakes, Minnesocold
    Posts: 1870
    #1682256

    This week I picked up an SS SV with some boat rash on eBay for $114 shipped. It arrived on Thursday. I spooled it up with 125 yards of 14lb Fireline and took it to a spot with some open water to try it out on a new to me Tatula 6’10” MF. I started out with the wind at my back and was really impressed with the distance I was getting at the 2nd or 3rd break setting throwing a Zoom Super Fluke on an overhand cast.

    Then I went to skip the fluke with no brake adjustment. The cast crashed and burned resulting in a really nasty backlash. I had to cut the thing out after trying to get it out for nearly half an hour. My 125 yards was now down to maybe 40 yards because I screwed up at cutting the line out. With that amount of line on the reel I was no longer getting anywhere near the same distance on an overhand cast. I was able to skip the fluke ok with the brakes turned up. I tried casting into the wind for a little bit, but it was blowing about 17mph sustained and I didn’t have the patients for that.

    I went home and watched some video’s trying to find out if my reel had an problem or I screwed up. Turns out there is a You Tube SV Concept Demonstration Manuel done by one of the engineers in Japan with English subtitles. Wished I had seen the video first. I overfilled the spool and at the lower break settings you need to use your thumb just like ever other baitcast reel.

    FryDog62
    Posts: 3696
    #1684745

    I saw the video below of James Lindner explaining the technicalities of the SV spool and then spiking a weightless fluke into the water without backlash.

    Two weeks later, I’m at the NW Sport Show talking to the Daiwa rep, and who else comes walking up but James. He and the Daiwa rep explained how it works to me – but more importantly exactly how to set the brake, settings, etc.

    So, the “Bait Monkey” bit me pretty hard and I ended up buying a Zillion SV TW and the new Tatula SV TW with the show 20% discount.

    Went home on a pond in my area (with no fish since the season isn’t open of course) and set up the rods/reels – one with a weightless Senko and the other a 3/8 oz jig/trailer made specifically for skipping.

    I’m an amateur but want to get better at this – and schooled myself on the art of skipping with an SV spool. Wasn’t perfect to begin with and I had a couple minor backlashes, but eventually got it down pretty well. Not perfect but by FAR much better than any previous experience I had skipping with a baitcaster.

    James video:
    https://www.facebook.com/saved/?notif_id=1490752158796550&cref=52&notif_t=saved_off_fb

    Al has one too ~

    Daiwa Zillion: The Reel That Won't Backlash

    Al Lindner is extremely impressed by Daiwa's new Zillion reel, and he backs their claim that it's nearly impossible to backlash.

    Lindner's Angling Edge 发布于 2016年9月20日

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1684877

    Now I think I am jonesing for a SV reel with the T-wing system. For you guys who have played with them, how well do you think it works for every day techniques, as in normal lure weights and long cast in open water? I’d be interested in a reel that I can use for anything and still have advantages over other reels.

    FryDog62
    Posts: 3696
    #1685089

    I did use the 2 SV reels to toss some spinnerbaits and topwater and it worked just fine for those as well. I don’t think there is any disadvantage to TW or SV. If you look at reviews of the Tatula CT it’s one of the highest rated reels I think you can find in the $100 (on eBay) to $130 (Cabelas, BPS) price range. The SV spool was added to that reel and of course it goes up in price, but functionally is a very good all around reel.

    I guess I have heard one knock on the SV spools and that is that they are a little shallower and wider, and as a result hold less line (about 100 yards)… so less than most standard baitcasters.

    The Daiwa rep told me the spools are a little different between the Tatula and Zillion SV TW reels but fairly close functionally. He said both resist backlash well … but based on the spool design he would give the Zillion a slight edge in casting lighter baits, and maybe a slight advantage to the Tatula in terms of casting distance. $100 difference between the two reels so yeah, an advantage there too —

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1685099

    The line capacity was one concern. Not that a bass will spool you, but it would mean more respooling eventually from break offs and tying another lure.

    The other is I do think know how much of an improvement in distance the To wing would make, but it seems it would.

    FryDog62
    Posts: 3696
    #1685165

    Spool capacity is a bit more of a concern if you are throwing a lot of light lures or skipping. To further reduce the risk of backlash I think some people are purposely under-filling the spool – leaving a little more than the typical 1/8 of an inch room at the top… so maybe closer to 80-90 yards of line. If you’re throwing more typical lures, no need to dial back though.

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