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ClownColor wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Jon Jordan wrote:</div>
Exempt from the Mandate:

– The US Congress

-J.

Where did you read this?

Well, you can do a Google search. But here is a link you can check out.

http://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/government-verify/congress-staff-exempt-from-federal-covid-19-vaccine-mandate/536-4175a8a3-649b-4ae6-87e2-60df8a6967a8

glenn57 wrote:

are they not considered a part of the excutive branch???????

They are not a part of the executive branch.

They are the legislative branch.

stout93 wrote:

Hmm..I see her bullet points, but maybe I’m missing something or something has changed since I’m seeing the testing option has been removed…

The first bullet point states:
Large business (100 or more employees) must ensure all employees are vaccinated or participate in weekly COVID-19 testing.

Found something that makes.

For federal employees and most health care workers, he says it’s a “hard mandate,” meaning you need to get vaccinated or you could get fired from your job.

For private employers, it’s a “soft mandate,” meaning you can choose to either get vaccinated or go through testing at least once a week

Also, sounds like since it’s through OSHA, the timing will probably only 3 weeks or so before companies need to start complying.

Angler II wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>djshannon wrote:</div>
I hope you unvaccinated people survive. You are playing with your life and the lives of your loved ones.

We are loosing about 1500 of you a day. Statistics don’t lie.

I like Delta Airlines view, get vaccinated or pay $200 a month for additional cost of health care plus testing.

With that logic, people who smoke, do drugs, eat unhealthy etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. should all have to pay more…

Covid is miniscule to everything else.

I hope you don’t have any bad habits…

Maybe I am a jerk, but I’ve always thought that me choosing not to smoke packs a day, weigh 400#, do drugs, etc. SHOULD make my health insurance cheaper. Instead, the current situation forces me to pay for people who intentionally make terrible health decisions. I’ve got coworkers who are on tons of pills a day, weigh twice as much as me, choose to jeopardize their health, and ultimately I will pay for it.

Incentivizing decisions is not a stomp on people’s rights…it’s an option. I do NOT support mandates or increased costs for people making their own choices. I think incentives are a better option. I’d gladly pass certain physical tests or health measures for my employer if it meant a break in costs. Want to save $150 a month on your insurance package? …quit smoking. Want to get a cheaper health insurance rate? …drop 40#.

djshannon wrote:

Statistics don’t lie.

No, they don’t.

Statistic >> The overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%.

-J.

djshannon wrote:

I hope you unvaccinated people survive. You are playing with your life and the lives of your loved ones.

We are loosing about 1500 of you a day. Statistics don’t lie.

I like Delta Airlines view, get vaccinated or pay $200 a month for additional cost of health care plus testing.

If the federal government really cared about deaths, they’d mandate healthy diet and exercise. 70-80% of those dying from/with covid are obese. Statistics don’t lie.

tornadochaser wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>djshannon wrote:</div>
I hope you unvaccinated people survive. You are playing with your life and the lives of your loved ones.

We are loosing about 1500 of you a day. Statistics don’t lie.

I like Delta Airlines view, get vaccinated or pay $200 a month for additional cost of health care plus testing.

If the federal government really cared about deaths, they’d mandate healthy diet and exercise. 70-80% of those dying from/with covid are obese. Statistics don’t lie.

If the Federal government really cared they’d give out medications like insulin and epinephrine instead of forcing patients with dangerous medical conditions with (mostly) no fault of their own to pay hundreds of dollars out of pocket.

Jon Jordan wrote: Statistic >> The overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%.

Tell that to the 650k people who died, the families of the 6 people I personally knew who died and the 5 others I know who were ventilated.

Jon Jordan wrote:

Statistic >> The overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%.

What’s your chance of drowning while fishing? If it was 3/100 without a life vest I should buy a lottery ticket. You still see recommendations to wear one everytime someone drowns though instead of statistics of why you shouldn’t.

Back to the same old tired arguments.

Get vaccinated or don’t get vaccinated.

I can’t or won’t make the choice for you.

Oh boy here comes the arguments and people who want to force the vaccine on others

Why is there not more focus on treating the virus? Its obvious the vax is not that great. All they do is focus on blaming the unvaxed and promoting division.

Has society not learned anything from parenting or pet ownership?

Allow folks to make choices based off the possible consequences or in most cases, rewards that are offered.

Us vaxxed folks need seperate VIP lines to Raising Cane’s, liquor stores right before closing, and concert seating priority, etc. This wouldn’t be hard to get the sheep to act accordingly here..

Where is that Dead horse Meme when you need it?

A no-holds-barred covid or political post would be ugly. There is so much division here its sickening.

Eelpoutguy wrote:

Where is that Dead horse Meme when you need it?

Here ya go!

-J.

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If this actually happens, I think it sets a bad precedent regardless of how you feel about this particular shot. What’s next, do we really want the federal executive branch making these types of mandates on their own in the future.

Dutchboy wrote:

Back to the same old tired arguments.

Get vaccinated or don’t get vaccinated.

I can’t or won’t make the choice for you.

round and round the marry go round we go.

I work for a small local company with 6 employees including the owner. If he decided to mandate the vaccine he would loose at least 3 employees myself included as well as his business. There has been a major worker shortage in my industry for years before COVID. He wouldn’t be able to replace the ones that leave quick enough and the ones left can’t do what us that would leave can.

Us vaxxed folks need seperate VIP lines to Raising Cane’s, liquor stores right before closing, and concert seating priority, etc. This wouldn’t be hard to get the sheep to act accordingly here..

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You can have all that.

Im at mayo on covid floor right now been here since last Tuesday. Got the shots back in April. Daughter is a teacher was exposed at school and brought it home not knowing. Had fever and bad head ache for a day and have felt good ever since. I have pancreatic cancer among a few other medical issues is why im still in hospital. Its kinda like being in jail. I can’t leave my room so I’ve been doing exercises and walking in my room. 31′ from my window to the door. Hopefully getting out by Friday.

suzuki wrote:

A no-holds-barred covid or political post would be ugly. There is so much division here its sickening.

Yes it is. I’ve never once told any one why they shouldn’t get vaccinated or my personal feelings on it. But man do some of these guys feel they need to push it on us. Not sure if they think that helps.

suzuki wrote:

Why is there not more focus on treating the virus? Its obvious the vax is not that great. All they do is focus on blaming the unvaxed and promoting division.

The best treatment is prevention.

You can believe and do what you want. Work or Not Work, Vaccinate or Not.

Here is a suggestion:

For the country….
If you are unvaccinated and show up at a hospital for care…

We just turn you away…

You must of believed that you one of the 90 plus percent that were going to survive…

So our health care system need not take care of you… (it is just like the flu!!! – really?)

I have said more than enough… rant on!

Better question is. When this “action” fails, and it will. What next?

-J.

djshannon wrote:

You can believe and do what you want. Work or Not Work, Vaccinate or Not.

Here is a suggestion:

For the country….
If you are unvaccinated and show up at a hospital for care…

We just turn you away…

You must of believed that you one of the 90 plus percent that were going to survive…

So our health care system need not take care of you… (it is just like the flu!!! – really?)

I have said more than enough… rant on!

I’m not taking sides – rather just throwing real life info out.

My wife is dealing with Covid patients daily. She regularly deals with patients who also call Covid fake, refuse to wear a mask in the hospital (so they’re denied entry until they do), and won’t submit to a rapid test…yet come calling for help as they have severe symptoms.

Her hospital is currently closed to admissions. If you want to have a typical scheduled surgery, you cannot do it there as there is no hospital space. If you are in an accident or are a cancer patient with deteriorating health, you are shipped elsewhere outside of the community you are a part of. As of the last time I mentioned Covid positive patients, she stated that they have yet to hospitalize anyone who was vaccinated. Of the unvaccinated people, 2 have passed and many others are lengthy stays causing their floor to be full.

Vaccination is a choice and I’ve mentioned countless times that it should not be a mandate. With that said, if you sit and preach that the unvaccinated are not impacting others…you’re simply spewing misinformation.

buck-slayer wrote:

Im at mayo on covid floor right now been here since last Tuesday. Got the shots back in April. Daughter is a teacher was exposed at school and brought it home not knowing. Had fever and bad head ache for a day and have felt good ever since. I have pancreatic cancer among a few other medical issues is why im still in hospital. Its kinda like being in jail. I can’t leave my room so I’ve been doing exercises and walking in my room. 31′ from my window to the door. Hopefully getting out by Friday.

Best of luck with everything Buck, sounds like you’re kicking Covid, but hope you are also able to kick Cancers a$$ as well!!

bfishn wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>suzuki wrote:</div>
Why is there not more focus on treating the virus? Its obvious the vax is not that great. All they do is focus on blaming the unvaxed and promoting division.

The best treatment is prevention.

Like AIDS? Is that how they got it under control?

suzuki wrote:

Why is there not more focus on treating the virus?

There actually is. Monoclonal antibodies help and they are approved for emergency use. They are very expensive. The primary one being used is made by Regeneron.

There is another one called fluvoxamine that is currently in clinical trials. It’s cheap and widely available and is currently prescribed as an anti-depressant. It has showed positive results in early stage trials.

Ivermectin is a livestock dewormer. Please do not take it. It’s for horses and cattle.