Jerry Kill for President!

Aw shucks G since you need me to defend my statement here you go.

If you want be be a big time college coach you take what comes with that. He takes the salary and all be benifits that come with the job. He also accepts the downside which is the schedule. Other then not getting to a bowl game and thus losing that bonus check what purpose does it serve to pay $800k to get out of those 2 games? Finding some D2 school to beat up? What does that teach?

The TCU game has nothing to do with this. It would be like saying because a felon served his time he never did the crime.
Knowing your history i’m sure you want to beat the subject some more. I don’t the point has been made.
I’m out.

Dutchy, if you would follow a little College Football (which you admittedly do not) you would know that all D1 schools schedule a few “confidence building” games every year early. It gives the D2 schools a much needed boost for their coffers also, having the big boy games. There may be schools who schedule all theirs as sleeper games, but Kill did not, but you still accuse him of it. Your right, you should be done with this thread….ah yes “MY” history… please.

I’m just happy no one is calling me plug.

Hey plug what ya doin plug? Should I start a Hey plug thread?

shouldn’t you be flaplug or something like that now ?

You fuggers!

Hey Plug

Hey Targa; the Packers are tough…it hurts to say that

Hey Dutchy; stick to baseball!! your views are less akward on the diamond.

Hey G

And to throw an interesting twist into the mix… After Pellini was released today by Nebraska, one of the pundits thought that Kill might be an excellent choice to be Pellini’s replacement… Personally I hope he stays!!!

Mark

I’m happy with the way the Gophers program is improving and happy with Kill as coach, for the most part.

After the WI game, several posts on Gophers FB page said, great season, now on to a bowl game.

Great season? 5-3 in Big Ten? It was a decent season, better than average, better than what we’ve seen in last 10 years, but it wasn’t great. Nebraska will probably get a better bowl game as they have a better record, and better following.

The Pellini firing is interesting and brings up a good question. How good is good enough anymore? I know Nebraska has a history of playing for National Titles but not in the last 15 years. Minnesota had a coach (Mason) who got the program up to 10 wins, went to a bowl game every year, and we ran him out of town.

So Kill is still building, progressing each year, but what will happen when he doesn’t lose to Illinois and we win a bowl game and end up with 10 wins? Do you think MN can take it’s program to the level recently achieved by OSU, MI St, or WI? And if we get there, will that be good enough?

I think Nebraska is delusional in it’s expectations. Osbourne competed for kids in a different world, I don’t see Nebraska ever returning to where they were under him.

I hope to see Kill take this program to the next level. He’s improved every year to date, but now the improvement will be much slower and much more difficult to achieve.

ET

And now DUTCHBOY is jumping back OFF the bandwagon.. haha.. I remember when i used to jump around teams like that.. I think I was around 5 years old.

cougareye wrote:

I’m happy with the way the Gophers program is improving and happy with Kill as coach, for the most part.

Great season? 5-3 in Big Ten? It was a decent season, better than average, better than what we’ve seen in last 10 years, but it wasn’t great. Nebraska will probably get a better bowl game as they have a better record, and better following.

So Kill is still building, progressing each year, but what will happen when he doesn’t lose to Illinois and we win a bowl game and end up with 10 wins? Do you think MN can take it’s program to the level recently achieved by OSU, MI St, or WI? And if we get there, will that be good enough?

I think Nebraska is delusional in it’s expectations. Osbourne competed for kids in a different world, I don’t see Nebraska ever returning to where they were under him.

I hope to see Kill take this program to the next level. He’s improved every year to date, but now the improvement will be much slower and much more difficult to achieve.

ET

It’ll be interesting to see where Kill goes next with the program. He said at the very beginning that it would be at least 7 years before he had the program on the road he wanted it on.

In one regard, I think the Gopher program will accelerate: recruits. Winning never hurts when it comes to recruiting, so Kill has a lot more to bring to the table if a recruit is looking at Midwestern schools, especially considering how beat down some traditional powerhouse programs are. This could really be Kill’s year to shine as far as recruiting, we’ll see.

Ohio state got very unlucky with their QB going down, and so it could really be the Badger’s year if they can take advantage. I wouldn’t want to have a start like the Badgers did against MN. Ohio State won’t be likely to let a team back into the game the way the Gophers did and their D will be tough the whole game. Wisconsin will need to be better when getting deep into the opponents territory. It’ll be a good championship matchup.

Grouse

Before I get started a quick reply to Biggill’s comment the other day: I didn’t say that Wisconsin is different than Minnesota, basically the teams are mirrored images of one another as far as style and record etc, I was just asserting that I was not impressed with the way we played on Saturday, part of that was the result of playing and underrated Gopher defense but we also shot ourselves in the foot a few times early.
Hence why we can’t do that against an OSU team which I think everyone can agree is much more talented than both MN and WI on both sides of the ball. OSU has depth and lots of athletes and a dynamite coach to boot. The Badgers are opening as the early narrow favorite in Indy this weekend which shows just how much the bookies in Vegas place a value on the QB, in OSU’s case it happens to be a second stringer who has emerged as a Heisman contender. I myself absolutely hate that we (the badgers) are the favorite, I think UW plays much better as an underdog and I hate giving OSU more fuel to add to the fire in preparations this week.
I myself place less importance on the QB position, OSU runs an option-read offense and they have a solid running game which can win a game easily. Their QB Cardale Jones can run too, the Badgers struggled containing Leidner at times so I see an athlete at QB presenting somewhat of a problem. Jones does not have to be as dynamic or explosive as Barett to win against the Badgers he just has to manage the game and be effective situation-ally throwing the ball. I see Urban Meyer simplifying the playbook and trying to shorten the game, physical runs and playing defense putting as little pressure on Jones to pass as possible. Basically as I see it OSU and UW will take the same gameplan into the game, run the ball, ball security and play defense. The team that wins in the trenches is going to win this game.

I think Pellini was fired as much for his side line demeanor as he was for his inability to win the big games. He was basically the only coach in the Big Ten who routinely screamed at his players on national television. Against Wisconsin, his tirades started in the first quarter and continued for the entire game. Can’t see how that can be a good thing on the recruiting trail.

As for the Wisconsin vs Ohio St game, I can only hope we put together a complete game in all three phases without stupid mistakes and needless penalties. (Like running into the punt returner before he catches the ball)
Stupid mistakes in this game, will most likely sink our ship!

What a good game this was. I really thought the gophers had em. A couple defensive lapses getting beat deep in the passing game and a bad passing game on our end did em in.
The hands to the face call inside the red zone hurt too. I couldn’t even see it myself on the replay? Bad call, gophers go in there and lead 21-3 we have a different ball game period.

As for the BT title game, it should be a close one also. Ohio State might be in trouble without their QB, I wasn’t all that impressed with them when we played them. They are a good team, but no better than Wisconsin for sure.

So Kill is going to holtz us?

mplspug wrote:

So Kill is going to holtz us?

I don’t think he will. The main reason is I don’t think other schools, especially big time football schools, want a coach who has a history of having seizures on the sidelines. The pressure they put on their coaches is so much higher than here. I’m more concerned with Tracy Claeys leaving.

blackbay wrote:

I’m more concerned with Tracy Claeys leaving.

X2. Our best hope is the loyalty this coaching group has shown in staying together. But Clays is the real deal and proved last year he can move up and run the entire show effectively.

Surprised to see all of the interest in gopher football. I am under 30 but have been going to games regularly since the Wacker years, we have never been in better hands than Killer’s, and I liked Mason too. To say the gophers schedule cupcake non conference games is ridiculous. Look at any top college football team’s non conference, at best they have one solid matchup, which is ballsy, a lot of them have maybe a mediocre team and garbage the other three. The gophers have a team that very well could be in the college playoff this year. Going 5-3 this year is better than it seems, we clearly had the B10’s toughest schedule and did surprisingly well with it, the only power team we missed was MSU. Jerry Kill ain’t goin nowhere, we have been loyal to him and he is an old school dude, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. He is not the guy to run for greener pastures. We will be even better next year no doubt, and better yet down the road. He is a GREAT coach and we are very lucky to have him.

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smackemup wrote:

Jerry Kill ain’t goin nowhere, we have been loyal to him and he is an old school dude, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. He is not the guy to run for greener pastures.

Maybe, maybe not.
If he’s as good as some think he is, it may also depend on whether or not MN decides to pay him accordingly.

Here is where each Big Ten coach stands nationally in salary.
1. Ohio State’s Urban Meyer, No. 6 overall: $4.608,000 m
2. Michigan’s Brady Hoke, No. 8: $4.154,000
3. Iowa’s Kirk Ferentz, No. 9: $3.98500
4. Penn State’s Bill O’Brien, No. 14: $3.282,779
5. Nebraska’s Bo Pelini, No. 18: $2.975,000
6. Northwestern’s Pat Fitzgerald, No. 41: $2,221,153
7. Purdue’s Darrell Hazell, No. 43: $2,160,833
8. Wisconsin’s Gary Andersen, No. 47: $2,120,823
9. Michigan State’s Mark Dantonio, No. 51: $1,959,744
10. Illinois’ Tim Beckman, No. 60: $1,700,000
11. Indiana’s Kevin Wilson, No. 66: $1,291,220
12. Minnesota’s Jerry Kill, No. 67: $1,200,000

As you can see, good coaches are worth quite a bit of money and Jerry Kill wasn’t exactly loyal to schools he has been at in the past. It’s pretty hard to know what a guy will do when another AD from a big time school comes a calling. And, if the coach feels like he’s being seriously under paid…..

I wonder what would happen if Michigan gave Jerry a call later this winter?

After further review, I noticed that salary list above is 1 yr old.

Jerry Kill is currently listed at #45 nationally with a salary of $2,100,000 not including any bonus he may get at the end of the year. Many coaches do get these large bonuses for having a good year. After this year, I would think Jerry is in line for a decent bonus.

It’s all about perspective…Case in point:

Nebraska FIRES a head coach that for the last 5 years has had no-less than 9 wins every season. Minnesota fans go nutzo and say “Jerry Kill for President!” when the guys wins 8 games. Really people? I’m glad you guys are happy about an 8-4 season. Bring back Mason or better yet, send Kill to Nebraska and hire Pelini…RR

roosterrouster wrote:

Bring back Mason or better yet, send Kill to Nebraska and hire Pelini…RR

IMHO, your much better off with Jerry Kill.

Kill named 2014 Big10 Coach of the year…. Mason was alright. Kill has 10 seasons to work at it then too, he said at the start, it will take 6 seasons to see real results… he is half way there