Jan 6th convictions

  • Beast
    Posts: 1147
    #2210584

    I find it fascinating that a group of people thought they were literally going to overthrow the US government and that was going to work out well for them…
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    were they all armed? they have armor assault vehicles? they have air support? overthrow the government my foot, I can’t believe anyone can be that stupid to even entertain that that idea.

    FinnyDinDin
    Posts: 869
    #2210587

    Our government and media lies to us non stop and people are too stupid to know better.

    Remember the days when the media was there to keep our government in check with truth brought to the people? Now the media is politically controlled and most citizens are too brainwashed to see it.

    We have fallen a long ways in recent years. Divided we fall, is what they want, and it’s getting closer by the day.

    Gitchi Gummi
    Posts: 3161
    #2210617

    call it what you want. an angry mob trying to change the result of an election and keep POTUS45 in power by storming the capitol and disrupting the US congress session. POTUS45 wanted the VP to overthrow the election results and reject the winner. what am I missing?

    to me, the foundation of a democracy is the election. If someone is going to try to eradicate the election results, in my eyes that is trying to overthrow the democracy of the US government.

    pretty sad how some will defend these actions

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22548
    #2210621

    81M

    riverbassman
    Posts: 269
    #2210628

    pretty sad how some will defend these actions

    I agree totally. Sugarcoat it and deflect all you want (Hunter, Biden, etc.) but bottom line is people were trying to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power on Jan. 6th. Maybe some were dumba$$es following the mob, but there were a lot more that wanted to stop Congress from certifying the winner of the Electoral College. In other words that is trying to overthrow the Government. BTW, I am a Republican.

    Gitchi Gummi
    Posts: 3161
    #2210638

    I agree totally. Sugarcoat it and deflect all you want (Hunter, Biden, etc.) but bottom line is people were trying to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power on Jan. 6th. Maybe some were dumba$$es following the mob, but there were a lot more that wanted to stop Congress from certifying the winner of the Electoral College. In other words that is trying to overthrow the Government. BTW, I am a Republican.

    glad to see someone call a spade a spade.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18722
    #2210639

    “Remember the days when the media was there to keep our government in check with truth brought to the people? Now the media is politically controlled and most citizens are too brainwashed to see it.”

    Truer words have never been spoken. We had it right and now its broken.

    stout93
    Becker MN
    Posts: 983
    #2210655

    call it what you want. an angry mob trying to change the result of an election the confirmation process of a judge to SCOTUS and keep the libs in power by storming the capitol and disrupting the US congress session.

    pretty sad how the media and libs will defend these actions

    Brad Dimond
    Posts: 1490
    #2210736

    To a few of us here today this is a solemn and most momentous occasion, and yet in the history of our nation it is a commonplace occurrence. The orderly transfer of authority as called for in the Constitution routinely takes place, as it has for almost two centuries, and few of us stop to think how unique we really are. In the eyes of many in the world, this every-four-year ceremony we accept as normal is nothing less than a miracle. – Ronald Reagan

    We came close to losing this miracle.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18722
    #2210744

    Wow

    Gitchi Gummi
    Posts: 3161
    #2210752

    pretty sad how the media and libs will defend these actions

    I’m not defending those actions at all. I think both instances are detestable and it is quite revealing that you do not.

    stout93
    Becker MN
    Posts: 983
    #2210768

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stout93 wrote:</div>
    pretty sad how the media and libs will defend these actions

    I’m not defending those actions at all. I think both instances are detestable and it is quite revealing that you do not.

    Just pointing out your and the majority of other libs’ extreme hypocrisy.

    Further point, I don’t think anyone (most folks) on here are defending Jan 6, they are simply saying there was never the slightest chance of them “overthrowing democracy…” But that’s the libs talking point no matter how utterly ridiculous it is. Yeah right…Trump was going to be installed as POTUS after a few thousand people protested. How stupid do people have to be…???

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2210773

    Just pointing out your and the majority of other libs’ extreme hypocrisy.

    Further point, I don’t think anyone (most folks) on here are defending Jan 6, they are simply saying there was never the slightest chance of them “overthrowing democracy…” But that’s the libs talking point no matter how utterly ridiculous it is. Yeah right…Trump was going to be installed as POTUS after a few thousand people protested. How stupid do people have to be…???

    So you believe that because there was no chance of altering the outcome of the election on 1/6 that the whole thing was no big deal and blown out of proportion by the liberal media? People forcing their way into the capital in search of Pence, Pelosi and the electoral records with the intent to destroy them wouldn’t create a constitutional crisis? What exactly is the process for certifying the election if the VP is incapacitated? What’s the process if the VP refuses to certify the election results?

    Gitchi Gummi
    Posts: 3161
    #2210775

    Just pointing out your and the majority of other libs’ extreme hypocrisy.

    How am I displaying extreme hypocrisy when I say both sides and instances are very wrong? The irony in your post is that you see one as wrong and not both. That in and of itself is hypocritical.

    To Biggill’s point, are you saying the whole thing is no big deal because POTUS45 never would have actually got his way?

    How stupid do people have to be…???

    almost as stupid as one of the people that marched to the capitol and thought you were going to have an impact on the election results

    stout93
    Becker MN
    Posts: 983
    #2210778

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stout93 wrote:</div>
    Just pointing out your and the majority of other libs’ extreme hypocrisy.

    Further point, I don’t think anyone (most folks) on here are defending Jan 6, they are simply saying there was never the slightest chance of them “overthrowing democracy…” But that’s the libs talking point no matter how utterly ridiculous it is. Yeah right…Trump was going to be installed as POTUS after a few thousand people protested. How stupid do people have to be…???

    So you believe that because there was no chance of altering the outcome of the election on 1/6 that the whole thing was no big deal and blown out of proportion by the liberal media? People forcing their way into the capital in search of Pence, Pelosi and the electoral records with the intent to destroy them wouldn’t create a constitutional crisis? What exactly is the process for certifying the election if the VP is incapacitated? What’s the process if the VP refuses to certify the election results?

    Dude, you need to go back and take your 3rd grade reading course again..

    I can play too…

    People forcing their way into the capital in search of Pence, Pelosi and the electoral records with the intent to destroy them Graham, Cruz and threatening them to change their vote for Kavanagh wouldn’t create a constitutional crisis?

    picklerick
    Central WI
    Posts: 1762
    #2210779

    At noon on Jan 20, Inauguration Day, the POTUS’ and VP’s term still end and the Speaker of the House would have assumed the role of President. Then, the election results would likely be certified. Surely, Nancy would have stepped aside to save democracy, right?

    At no point on Jan 6 was the US Government at risk of being overthrown. I don’t see anyone saying Jan 6 wasn’t a big deal. I do see several putting those words in other people’s mouths. Exaggerating someone else’s position doesn’t make your position more legitimate.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2210781

    Dude, you need to go back and take your 3rd grade reading course again..

    I can play too…

    People forcing their way into the capital in search of Pence, Pelosi and the electoral records with the intent to destroy them Graham, Cruz and threatening them to change their vote for Kavanagh wouldn’t create a constitutional crisis?

    To no surprise, you anttempted to answer none of my questions. Deflect and project.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2210782

    Forcing their way? Heck for the vast majority of them it was more like a tour. Watch the dang videos that surfaced a few months back. They tell a far different story about the events that day than what we saw from the media as it happened. This is what led to them essentially all being released. The Capitol Security literally led them to where they wanted to go. Yeah there were some very stupid people damaging property but that was very few of them. A gal was murdered when she was unarmed and no charges filed.

    Gitchi Gummi
    Posts: 3161
    #2210783

    stout – honest question so I can get a sense of your reasonableness. is all media spewing lies or just the ~50% that you don’t agree with?

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2210786

    At noon on Jan 20, Inauguration Day, the POTUS’ and VP’s term still end and the Speaker of the House would have assumed the role of President. Then, the election results would likely be certified. Surely, Nancy would have stepped aside to save democracy, right?

    Pelosi and Pence were at the top of the insurrectionists list for that reason.

    If all this was impossible, why then did trump send all those people to the capital? Even if it was just to peacefully protest. Trump lied to them telling them Pence had the power. Why?

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2210787

    is all media spewing lies or just the ~50% that you don’t agree with?

    Come on.. Do you honestly think the media is 50/50? Not a chance.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2210791

    Forcing their way? Heck for the vast majority of them it was more like a tour. Watch the dang videos that surfaced a few months back. They tell a far different story about the events that day than what we saw from the media as it happened. This is what led to them essentially all being released. The Capitol Security literally led them to where they wanted to go. Yeah there were some very stupid people damaging property but that was very few of them. A gal was murdered when she was unarmed and no charges filed.

    When you’re outnumbered 10,000:1 and unarmed, what choice do they have?

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2210797

    Well the majority of them are armed arent they? Have you seen the videos I referenced? It was like a damn Frat party for most of them. They were even waving them down the hall to follow them.
    And BTW why were Trump’s tweets immediately taken down when he told them minutes after they arrived to remain peaceful, respect law enforcement and leave?

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2210803

    I’ve watched a lot of video. The implications you are making are utterly false.

    Trumps tweets were taken down by Twitter, not trump.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17872
    #2210806

    Well the majority of them are armed arent they?

    The Capital Police are armed. However, had they decided to use deadly force I can only imagine how that would have gone too.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2210810

    The Capital Police are armed. However, had they decided to use deadly force I can only imagine how that would have gone too.

    Except someone did.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2210811

    I’ve watched a lot of video. The implications you are making are utterly false.

    Trumps tweets were taken down by Twitter, not trump.

    I know who took the tweets down and that just merely points out to the problem with media and social media and censorship. They should have never been taken down. If youve watched as much video as I have and say my assumptions are utterly false then I have a bridge to sell you.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2210821

    You and multiple others do nothing but continue ignoring the questions asked and points made only to pick out some minor detail to obfuscate and deflect from the actual issue. It’s like arguing with a flat earther or creationist.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2210826

    Some minor detail? Maybe for you because Orange man bad, but to others that is censorship and its illegal and protected.
    What questions are you talking about its impossible to keep up with all the comments.

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