Jan 6th convictions

  • Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16822
    #2209410

    I find it fascinating how many rioters were arrested and found guilty and sentenced. Today another guy from Cali got 13 years for using a stun gun. It doesn’t surprise me that they caught so many, I don’t care about any that got caught nor do I care about the politics of it. What I find interesting is all the camera angles and video the Government can grab up and use when they want to. Big brother truly is alive and well in 2023.

    Camera’s are everywhere, even here in fly-over land.

    gim
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17868
    #2209411

    Some footage has come from cell phones taking video and photos in the crowd.

    Beast
    Posts: 1147
    #2209414

    How many were caught and convicted in the George Floyd riots?

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16822
    #2209415

    How many were caught and convicted in the George Floyd riots?

    Doesn’t matter, that wasn’t Jan 6th.

    FinnyDinDin
    Posts: 869
    #2209416

    How many were caught and convicted in the George Floyd riots?

    Almost none. We live in a two tiered justice system. There are examples all around constantly

    Many that got arrested got bailed out of jail by liberal politicians so they could get back to the looting, destruction and burning.

    Rittenhouse did teach a few a good lesson though.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13661
    #2209421

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Beast wrote:</div>

    Rittenhouse did teach a few a good lesson though.

    Not enough. So many wanted him convicted on opinion and not the laws

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2209448

    I’m gonna do my best not to bite on this thread that will be locked by morning.

    If your angle truly is about surveillance, you should be far more concerned about facial recognition and AI systems used by major corporations like Walmart and Target and god knows who and where else it’s being used. They have a far more deviant reason to use it. It would concern me more if the law enforcement had the leverage to get this info whenever they want like they do with the Ring doorbells.

    It actually surprises me that this technology isn’t being used in the capital. The reality is I’m almost certain it was but it is likely a top secret system.

    Brad Dimond
    Posts: 1490
    #2209455

    Paranoia runs rampant. Much of the information that led to convictions was posted on social media by the culprits themselves – morons. Taking video of yourself entering the Capital, assailing Capital police and the like and then posting it on Facebook, Instagram and the like reeks of stupidity.

    The comparisons to the George Floyd rioters has some relevance but does not excuse the actions of those who rioted on January 6.

    rmartin
    United States
    Posts: 1434
    #2209463

    A sensible place to have a lot of cameras would be the Capitol of the US.

    deertracker
    Posts: 9253
    #2209466

    whenever they want like they do with the Ring doorbells.

    Can you expand on what you mean about the Ring doorbells?
    DT

    Reef W
    Posts: 2850
    #2209467

    Almost none. We live in a two tiered justice system. There are examples all around constantly

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/

    “Officials have arrested more than 14,000 people across 49 cities nationwide since May 27, according to a Washington Post tally of data provided by police departments and included in media reports.”

    “Roughly 80 federal charges, including murder and throwing molotov cocktails at police vehicles”

    Tlazer
    Posts: 718
    #2209479

    Can you expand on what you mean about the Ring doorbells?

    Don’t know if it is factual or not, but I heard that companies like Ring will turn over video footage from you private security video to the federal government. I heard they have given over the security video without a warrant or your permission to the government. It should be your private video, and the government should need or have a warrant to obtain it. I do know for a fact because I sat on a grand jury trial for a cold case murder where a criminal was caught because his brother had sent in his dna to a company like 23&me. Since they had no clue who the murder was until his brother sent in his dna for family history, it appears those companies are sharing the dna from their customers with the government without your permission. I haven’t used anything like that but maybe in the fine print somewhere, that most people don’t read, there might be a clause where they state they will share your dna with the government.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2209482

    Tlazer I dont doubt that for a second. There is probably something in the agreement of use that even states this. Just like all those DNA tests that people do. That info often gets submitted to government agencies and has led to multiple arrests.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22548
    #2209486

    One only needs to look to the Shaman and what the sham was for him on Jan 6. coffee

    2 tiered justice ? Did you hear about Hunter ? doah rotflol

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2209488

    Yeah, when those additional hundreds of hours of tape surfaced a few months ago it sure shed new light on what really transpired that day that was way different than what we were fed all along. Sure there were some dough heads that destroyed property and should be held accountable for everything they damaged but the vast majority were just marching around and even led by Capitol Security.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11844
    #2209492

    Oh the hypocrisy in this thread should be juicy. Popcorn in hand and it’s only Thursday morning. coffee

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20834
    #2209497

    I don’t think I read anything political in like a week while you guys were in Canada. It was nice

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2209504

    Its not really political at all just an observation. I hope those who damaged property are punished for it.

    deertracker
    Posts: 9253
    #2209506

    Don’t know if it is factual or not, but I heard that companies like Ring will turn over video footage from you private security video to the federal government.

    Not saying I agree with it, but it is not really people’s “private” video. All video is owned by Ring. I have not read their user agreement but I’m sure its buried in there some where.
    DT

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20834
    #2209508

    Its not really political at all just an observation. I hope those who damaged property are punished for it.

    Mine was also just a observation. I agree with both you and Mr g. But it’s like beating a dead horse.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2209516

    Mine was also just a observation. I agree with both you and Mr g. But it’s like beating a dead horse.

    Truer words have never been spoken. All it does is frustrate you even more though as things surface.

    Umy
    South Metro
    Posts: 1962
    #2209593

    Anyone who watches the news REAL or FAKE should be aware that what is good for the goose is NOT good for the Gander. Hunter goes scott free.
    Even the conspiracy of the “alleged” laptop is fodder on NBC, CNN etc and still nothing. His lawyer has publicly admitted its existence as well as said he’s never been questioned by the DOJ about it?! ( as referenced above- how STUPID are you to take picture AND post them on social media Hunter? )
    It’s all about the dollar – how many do I have and how many more can i get for our leaders and their cronies ( both sides of the aisles) they stopped representing OUR needs a long time ago.
    Yes, there IS a two-tiered justice system and we are on the lower rung.
    If you damaged property at the capital- yes you should pay for it.
    If you damaged property or looted in MPLS ( or any other city we have massive amounts of video on) you should be brought to justice as well.
    George Floyd, January 6 – different circumstances -same actions. There is NO RATIONALE that justifies the unequal /lack of justice brought to bear in either of these circumstances.

    riverbassman
    Posts: 269
    #2209602

    Easiest way to look at Jan. 6th is DON’T compare it to other things. Same goes for Rittenhouse, G. Floyd, etc. DON’T compare them to other issues. I said to myself when this post came up that someone would bring up Hunter…. and they did.
    Now, what about Hillary? What about my kid who got punished for knocking a kid off the merry go round but little Johnny did it 3 times and wasnt punished… what a 2 tiered justice system we have LMAO.
    Bottom line, they assaulted police (Dont we “back the badge” on IDO?), broke into the capitol, stole things, wrecked things and there is video proof. They should pay the price and slowly they are. If anyone here thinks they shouldn’t be punished has Blinders on.

    riverbassman
    Posts: 269
    #2209604

    Yeah, when those additional hundreds of hours of tape surfaced a few months ago it sure shed new light on what really transpired that day that was way different than what we were fed all along. Sure there were some dough heads that destroyed property and should be held accountable for everything they damaged but the vast majority were just marching around and even led by Capitol Security.

    What about Capitol Police that were seriously injured?

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22548
    #2209607

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
    Yeah, when those additional hundreds of hours of tape surfaced a few months ago it sure shed new light on what really transpired that day that was way different than what we were fed all along. Sure there were some dough heads that destroyed property and should be held accountable for everything they damaged but the vast majority were just marching around and even led by Capitol Security.

    What about Capitol Police that were seriously injured?

    Whomever turned down the additional forces that were offered, should be held accountable. Jan 6 was a joke… if they think that was an insurrection, they will be in for a real surprise if/when one actually does happen. Ray Epps… another one. “We gotta go in the capital tomorrow…” on tape and….. nothing. Open your eyes. FWIW Canada was wonderful too… no senseless internet garble and butthurt people whining… doah crazy jester chased I’m BACK !!! waytogo

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23391
    #2209609

    What about Capitol Police that were seriously injured?

    Its pretty ridiculous you even have to ask that question. If they were injured at the hands of anyone there protesting then those responsible should be held accountable. Pretty pathetic that you would even ask that question if you ask me.

    riverbassman
    Posts: 269
    #2209615

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>riverbassman wrote:</div>
    What about Capitol Police that were seriously injured?

    Its pretty ridiculous you even have to ask that question. If they were injured at the hands of anyone there protesting then those responsible should be held accountable. Pretty pathetic that you would even ask that question if you ask me.

    I was referring to others not mentioning the capitol police being injured, only referred to as dough heads that destroyed property and the rest were just marching around…. here was the quote from above……Sure there were some dough heads that destroyed property and should be held accountable for everything they damaged but the vast majority were just marching around and even led by Capitol Security.
    Nowhere does it mention police being injured…. I was making that point as I 100% think anyone who touched an officer should be punished.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2209619

    2 tiered justice ? Did you hear about Hunter ?

    Fill us in please.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22548
    #2209622

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>big_g wrote:</div>
    2 tiered justice ? Did you hear about Hunter ?

    Fill us in please.

    The Justice Department charged that Hunter possessed a Colt Cobra revolver in Delaware in October 2018 while “knowing that he was an unlawful user of and addicted to a controlled substance.”

    The maximum penalty for the gun charge is 10 years in jail and a fine of $250,000.
    Hunter was also charged with failure to timely file and pay taxes in 2017 and 2018 when, by his own admission, he was in the throes of an addiction to crack cocaine.

    He got zero jail time for his crimes.

    riverbassman
    Posts: 269
    #2209624

    Hunter was also charged with failure to timely file and pay taxes in 2017 and 2018 when, by his own admission, he was in the throes of an addiction to crack cocaine.

    Not filing/paying taxes on time he should go to jail? Assuming he got caught up and paid the penalties.
    I mean, I cant stand him but I don’t think he needs jail time.
    Am I way off?

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