It's Time to Rename the Lombardi Trophy!

Back in the day when no one gave a hoot, the AFL and NFL came up with this Super Bowl idea.
Be cause the NFL had leverage over the younger less influential AFL they decided to name it the Lombardi Trophy.
Who knows why the would name it after V-Lombardi, most likely because he was the only name that was most agreeable to both sides who did not want the Trophy named after a more influential member of Either league at that time.
So they compromise and come up with the Lombardi Trophy.
So I think it’s time to rename the Super Bowl trophy to a more appropriate Symbol of the NFL.

If you were to rename the Trophy after a Player/Coach/Owner as the NFL league Representative who would you suggest.

# 1 choice IMHO would be Pat Tillman

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reelman wrote:

If you were to rename the Trophy after a Player/Coach/Owner as the NFL league Representative who would you suggest.

# 1 choice IMHO would be Pat Tillman

Seriously? Nothing could be further from the current image of the NFL.

https://deadspin.com/stop-using-pat-tillman-1818689197

reelman wrote:

Back in the day when no one gave a hoot, the AFL and NFL came up with this Super Bowl idea.
Be cause the NFL had leverage over the younger less influential AFL they decided to name it the Lombardi Trophy.
Who knows why the would name it after V-Lombardi, most likely because he was the only name that was most agreeable to both sides who did not want the Trophy named after a more influential member of Either league at that time.
So they compromise and come up with the Lombardi Trophy.
So I think it’s time to rename the Super Bowl trophy to a more appropriate Symbol of the NFL.

If you were to rename the Trophy after a Player/Coach/Owner as the NFL league Representative who would you suggest.

# 1 choice IMHO would be Pat Tillman

I think you should start a protest. Sounds like you have nothing better to do anyway.

SuperDave1959 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>reelman wrote:</div>
If you were to rename the Trophy after a Player/Coach/Owner as the NFL league Representative who would you suggest.

# 1 choice IMHO would be Pat Tillman

Seriously? Nothing could be further from the current image of the NFL.

How about OJ Simpson then…

Great idea! Let’s also start giving the Master’s Champion an orange jacket while we’re at it! And an elaborate garland made of tulips for the winner of the Kentucky Derby! I don’t know why nobody thought of this before

The trophy was named in 1970 after Lombardi died of cancer, to honor the man who was, at that time, the most successful and influential figure in the history of the league. You don’t just discard 47 years of history.

No i think you are wrong. I don’t think it became the Lombardi trophy for several years after the first Super Bowl.
I will admit i could be wrong, i didn’t research it. But other then you trying to get the Packer fans out of their funk i see no need to discuss it.

Call it the Belichick

How about the REELMAN TROLL trophy

seriously?
also, i don’t know why i’m biting on this.

NFL Trophy: Vince Lombardi
– 5 professional football championships (tied for most)
– HoF in NFL
– never had a losing season, 9-1 in playoffs
– record of 103-37-6 (.705)
– considered to be greatest coach in history of any sport

NFC Trophy: George Halas
– 5 professional football championships (tied for most)
– founder/owner of Chicago Bears
– founding member of the NFL
– record of 318-148-31 (.682)
– HoF in NFL

AFC Trophy: Lamar Hunt
– founder of AFL and MLS
– founder/owner of Kansas City Chiefs
– key to NFL/AFL merger
– HoF in NFL, MLS, and Int’l Tennis

DaveB wrote:

Call it the Belichick

Willie McGinist is all for it!

Ok Drop Tillman, if they need to name it after a coach lets call it, The Bill Cup Second only to the Stanley Cup.

But it refers to the Two best coaches in NFL History.
Bill Belicich and Bill Walsh.

Michael C. Winther wrote:

NFL Trophy: Vince Lombardi
– 5 professional football championships (tied for most)
– HoF in NFL
– never had a losing season, 9-1 in playoffs
– record of 103-37-6 (.705)
– considered to be greatest coach in history of any sport

Only in Sconnie,
Was that 7 or 8 decades ago? When all the players were overweight, Caucasian, beer drinking, part time Profession players.

Times have changed, there are far to many coaches that have achieved much more than Sconnies favorite Slow Pitch softball coach since then.

WalleyeStudent hit it right on the head

reelman wrote:

But it refers to the Two best coaches in NFL History.
Bill Belicich and Bill Walsh.

Not according to stats…….Walsh, winning 609%…..Belichick(proper spelling)678%

reelman wrote:

When all the players were overweight, Caucasian, beer drinking, part time Profession players.

The men who made the NFL what it is today…..
A dam bunch better than some wife-kid beating,overpaid,protesting “all me” players of today……
By the way…..did you know Lombardi was a key in the total integration of blacks into football?

reelman wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Michael C. Winther wrote:</div>
NFL Trophy: Vince Lombardi
– 5 professional football championships (tied for most)
– HoF in NFL
– never had a losing season, 9-1 in playoffs
– record of 103-37-6 (.705)
– considered to be greatest coach in history of any sport

Only in Sconnie,
Was that 7 o7 8 decades ago? When all the players were overweight, Caucasian, beer drinking, part time Profession players.

Times have changed, there are far to many coaches that have achieved much more than Sconnies favorite Slow Pitch softball coach since then.

TROLLIN’ TROLLIN’ TROLLIN’ are we Reelman

Mudshark wrote:

Not according to stats…….Walsh, winning 609%…..Belichick(proper spelling)678%

Talking Championships, add Bill Parcells and the Bills have it.

Eliminate the trophy all together and give them all the Kotex Participation Award

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Meh.
Belichick is great, no doubt. However, rings:season and rings:playoff goes to Lombardi and it isn’t even close…

Lombardi (head coach: GBP, WAS)
= 5 championships in 10 seasons (.500)
= 5 championships in 6 playoff appearances (.833)

Belichick (head coach: CLE, NEP)
= 5 championships in 22 seasons (.227)
= 5 championships in 15 playoff appearances (.333)

For reference there were 8 teams in the league when the supposed greatest coach won the ships. Then i believe the league expanded after his passing. Bill had to contend against a league of 32. I give Vince credit for getting it done but to win a ship these days is considerably harder. One thing that is a constant for success is either a franchise qb or a suffocating D.

How about “The Super Bowl Trophy”?

eyeguy507 wrote:

For reference there were 8 teams in the league when the supposed greatest coach won the ships.

ships? as in Viking ships? no, those guys never won any regardless of the number of teams in the league.

Sum derned facts on Lombardi’s championship years:
1961 = 14 teams
1962 = 14 teams
1965 = 14 teams
(AFL-NFL Merger)
1966 = 24 teams
1967 = 25 teams

Different times for sure, though I’d suggest that the bigger challenge to maintaining greatness today isn’t a larger league but rather the impact of free agency. Every year the best teams get ransacked of their free-agent stars by the over-paying Houston’s and Washington’s of the league.
If you just look at records since free agency hit in 1992, a few teams stand out above the rest: Pittsburgh, Dallas, New England, and Green Bay. I’d offer that it’s because of 2 big factors: a) having a HoF caliber QB and b) their organization is managed better than other teams when it comes to getting/retaining those complementary players.

eyeguy507 wrote:

For reference there were 8 teams in the league when the supposed greatest coach won the ships.

Ummmm….Lombardi’s 1st year in GB was 1959 and there were 12 teams….won his first 2 championships in 61 & 62…Then 3 in a row in 65,66,67….14,15 and 16 NLF teams……..
JUst for reference

How about the Viking Trophy?
That way Minnesota would have some kind of connection to it.

saugeye-steve wrote:

How about the Viking Trophy?
That way Minnesota would have some kind of connection to it.

That’s what were going to be calling it after we put a whoop ass on the Patriots in SB 52.

Michael C. Winther wrote:

Different times for sure, though I’d suggest that the bigger challenge to maintaining greatness today isn’t a larger league but rather the impact of free agency. Every year the best teams get ransacked of their free-agent stars by the over-paying Houston’s and Washington’s of the league.
If you just look at records since free agency hit in 1992, a few teams stand out above the rest: Pittsburgh, Dallas, New England, and Green Bay. I’d offer that it’s because of 2 big factors: a) having a HoF caliber QB and b) their organization is managed better than other teams when it comes to getting/retaining those complementary players.

New England,Pittsburg,San Francisco,Dallas. Are at the top of championship Organizations.
Second tier would be Washington,Denver,New York Giants,Oakland
Third tier would be Green Bay,Minnesota,Buffalo

reelman wrote:

New England,Pittsburg,San Francisco,Dallas. Are at the top of championship Organizations.
Second tier would be Washington,Denver,New York Giants,Oakland
Third tier would be Green Bay,Minnesota,Buffalo

Can somebody go check on reelman? Concerned for your mental well-being is all.

pool2fool wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>reelman wrote:</div>
New England,Pittsburg,San Francisco,Dallas. Are at the top of championship Organizations.
Second tier would be Washington,Denver,New York Giants,Oakland
Third tier would be Green Bay,Minnesota,Buffalo

Can somebody go check on reelman? Concerned for your mental well-being is all.

Let me Guess, St.Paul Vikings fan thinks they should be ranked higher? Or I should have removed Green Bay?

Why is this thread still going on an outdoor forum?

The ice needs to freeze. Fast