It's not perfect but it's a start. Cast Nets In MN Approved.

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1550082

    Over the weekend our friends in St Paul pass a law that will allow harvest of gizzard shad by use of a cast net on two bodies of water. The Mississippi River and the St Croix.

    “There are specifics to this (what I call a) test. So don’t just run out a buy a cast net until you know the rules. Here’s a summary of the law prepared by Steve DeMars, the guy that was on the heels of this “rabbit” until the law was past.
    This is a synopsis of the statute language amended to allow the use of cast nets:
    What:
    a. This is a temporary regulation that would be in effect from March 1, 2016 and expire on December 1, 2017 after which the DNR commissioner must report to the legislative committees with jurisdiction over the environment and natural resources by March 1, 2018 on the number of permits issued, conservation impacts from the use of cast nets and recommendation for any necessary changes in statutes or rules.
    c. The cast net regulation would allow anglers to obtain a DNR permit to use a cast net to take gizzard shad only from the Mississippi and St Croix Rivers for use as bait for angling. The cast net user must obtain a permit issued by the MN DNR. Part of the permit process will be mandatory training on the use of nets in infested waters to mitigate the risk of spreading aquatic invasive species (AIS). The Mississippi and St Croix Rivers are infested waters. The permit and the training are free.

    When:
    a. Effective date of the cast net program is March 1, 2016. The gizzard shad open season will run from July 1 to November 30 each year.

    Where:
    a. From the Mississippi River downstream of St Anthony Falls and the St Croix River downstream of the dam at Taylor Falls
    b. Where the river or stream is divided by barriers such as dams, the fish must be caught and used on the same section of the river or stream.

    Equipment:
    a. Cast nets must be monofilament and may not exceed seven feet in diameter, and mesh size must be from three-eighths to five-eighths inch bar measure.

    Cast Net Use Requirements:
    a. Cast nets may be used only to take gizzard shad for use as bait for angling.
    b. Nontarget species must immediately be returned to the water.

    c. Gizzard shad must be used on the same body of water where caught and while still on that water body. Where the river or stream is divided by barriers such as dams, the fish must be caught and used on the same section of the river or stream.
    d. Gizzard shad may not be transported off the water body.
    e. The cast net used to harvest gizzard shad may not be transported to, or used in, any waters other than the waters specified in the permit.”

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1550130

    “There are specifics to this (what I call a) test. So don’t just run out a buy a cast net until you know the rules.

    This is a good thing!

    Thanks Steve!!!

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1550172

    If anyone is interested, I can show you how not to throw one and get so ticked of you throw a tantrum, plugging yourself in the eye with one of the lead weights. coffee

    careful what you wish for… moon

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1550174

    Lol. Good to know that’s a possibility.
    I can’t believe i havent’ shattered my windshield yet.

    Word of caution – Don’t stand on the bow of the boat and try to throw into 40mph wind. )

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1550177

    I need to practice again. Going out on the St Johns this Saturday.

    Ok, I haven’t pegged myself with the lead, but I did get very frustrated and threw a tantrum. First 2 throws were bad. 3rd and 4th were not too bad and thought I was getting it. It was a complete fail afterwards. After going back and looking at instructions online I figured out that you want to gather the net in your throwing hand and that does the throwing. The other hand more or less you hold onto to open up the net and start it spreading.

    I will never use the technique where you hold the lead in your mouth. I know how that story ends.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1550179

    What size do you have pugster?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1550189

    Give this method a try big guy.

    Grizper
    Posts: 95
    #1550206

    I can already see the string of posts asking where to buy a net, how to use the net, where to find the shad to cast the net, and the inevitable, For sale: Briefly used cast net. whistling

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1550208

    It’s coming. You know it is. ;)

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1550209

    Ok Ok….I want to see him do it in the dark, with no lights…Like the rest of us do!

    Legalizing it and doing it during daytime seems just too easy.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1550213

    Legalizing it was easy?? shock

    skunkboy
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 172
    #1550214

    Good news for you Minnesotans finally. A 7′ diameter net is tiny but it’s a start. Iowa allows 10′ diameter and I think that’s about right. Not too big to learn on and big enough to catch some shad when your aim is just slightly off. Oh yeah, I would never use that rope in mouth method. Learn the right way.

    Now you guys will be in 7th heavn with all that great bait you have for catfish. Cut shad is number 1 bait (where ever shad are naturally located…MIssissippi River).

    Good luck boys…Ken

    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #1550231

    Just goes to show that good laws that fishermen can use can be brought into effect. All I’ve used is an 8′ and its worked well. Kinda hard to get the weights to separate right to make a decent circle when learning but with a little practice its not hard to do.

    Practice on water where theres a sand bottom, rocks and limbs on the bottom will tear the net in no time and within just a few throws. Even with a smaller net you can put 5″ of shad in the bottom of a 5 gallon bucket in just a few throws, even more if the schools really dense.

    riverbank-rat
    River Falls, WI
    Posts: 75
    #1550233

    Yee-Haw!!! Thank you so much Steve for helping make this happen! I just got back from a week long trip to Sanibel Florida to do a week of fishing and I got to use my 2 cast nets down there. I have spent plenty of time practicing in the yard and have gotten fairly good at throwing. But my nets are 10 and 12 foot diameter nets, so I guess it’s time for net #3 in a 7 foot diameter size.

    Here’s a tip, if you think the smaller mesh size legal in MN now is making the sink rate a little slow, try to find a net with weights closer together and of a little bigger size to compensate for it.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1550284

    What size do you have pugster?

    8′. I read that’s the best beginner size, better than smaller ones.

    I’ve seen good videos. I like the bass pro shop one where he puts the part that usually goes on your mouth on the shoulder instead.

    Like I said I screwed up the one time I practiced it and got frustrated. You gather it in your throwing hand. If you are right handed, that’s your right hand. It’s the trailing hand and the one that does the throwing.

    I’ll give it a try this Saturday on the saint John’s.

    I think it’s one of those things where the first time you do it right and you feel what a proper throw feels like, you’re set.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1550287

    Steve DeMars was having trouble as well. He found a video where the guy was holding it in his left hand and he’s been casting like a pro ever since.

    I have yet to touch one so I’m an arm chair expert. )

    Yes, 8 footers are listed many places as the easiest to start with.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1550303

    More weight the better – faster sink rate.
    Smaller the diameter the faster you want it to sink.

    But, More weight also means more energy to throw it.

    steve-demars
    Stillwater, Minnesota
    Posts: 1906
    #1551052

    This video may sound a little crazy and it is put out by a young boy but I guarantee you that if you follow these instructions with a small 7 foot net you will throw a perfect pancake throw every time. I was getting really ticked off because I couldn’t get that small net to open up right so I watched this video and it worked perfect for me on the very first try. I can do a perfect pancake cast every time now.

    Watch the video it is worth the couple of minutes time:

    iowa_josh
    Posts: 427
    #1551081

    It would be handy to have one with the biggest mesh size available just cause it sinks faster. There aren’t many choices available with 7′ nets though.

    One hand throws a cast net. The other hand holds on until the net pulls itself free. If you let go with both hands at the same time, it will never spin.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1551099

    “I made some twerks on it…”???? Glad the kid edited that out.

    Reminds me of this kid. Basically he skips all the goofy steps. The spread looked pretty good too. I was just going to default to this one.

    *sigh* I’ll be giving it a few practices tonight. Headed out to the St Johns tomorrow.

    mr-special
    MPLS
    Posts: 696
    #1551577

    thanks Steve you da MAN

    pug,
    my fam dwn in FL can show you how to throw a castnet. they found some pretty easy techniques. ive also found theyre way keep ya a lil dryer as well.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1551583

    You coming down anytime soon? I need to get over to the restaurant still! I’ll let you know when I do. Sometimes my co workers and I go on a Friday, so maybe the next time I’ll suggest it.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1551862

    I finally figured it out. Not bad, eh?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1551870

    For your first time… coffee

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