Is There Traffic Enforcement In The Twin Cities?

If the citizen’s of Minneapolis don’t want to stand up in support of the police officers who risk their lives protecting them, I hope they do defund the police Department. Better yet do away with it all together. The police officers can then move onto a different city where they are appreciated or to another profession where they are. Home values in the Minneapolis area will fall to almost nothing and the good citizens will flee the city like Rats from a burning building. I think the whole defunding of Police should be put to a vote. I really don’t think many people who live there are in favor of it. In fact I believe the majority of them are in favor of a increased police budget. Its only a small percentage who are. Unfortunately its this small percentage who the leaders of that once great city are listening to. I say if a vote is in Favor of it – Go ahead and do it.

I cant speak for the Metro area in regard to traffic enforcement but hear in the St. Cloud area its still being done. My neighbor is a supervisor for the State Patrol. He said due to complaints from residents they have recently cracked down hard in this area. He said they wrote like 3X more tickets in May than they normally do. I know if I was a officer in the metro area I would probably be making far less traffic stops these days as well. Each stop these days put both their life and careers as far greater risk than ever before.

Reef W wrote:

I don’t even know what you are getting at here. The taxpayers are paying the wages of police who are apparently just taking turns napping and refusing to respond to calls according to you.

If you are talking about Minneapolis specifically the 2021 budget is 164 million dollars for police.

Ralph – You have been rather vocal on some of these Minneapolis and Police officer issue’s in the Past ( which you are free to have a right to ) If Minneapolis Police still allow citizen ride alongs ( Not sure if they do or not ) I encourage you to take the opportunity to do so. Request one with the officers who patrol the lake Street and Hennepin Ave. areas. Do it with the overnight patrol. You will then have a better understanding on what these people deal with on a daily basis. If your views are still the same after that’s OK, But I’m willing to bet they will be different. I use to do ride alongs often. The average person has no idea of what goes on in that area after dark. Then again most people don’t want to.

What about the lady who got shot at while on her motorcycle in Lino last night. Guy pulls up and plugs one in her gas tank?

fishthumper wrote:

If the citizen’s of Minneapolis don’t want to stand up in support of the police officers who risk their lives protecting them, I hope they do defund the police Department. Better yet do away with it all together. The police officers can then move onto a different city where they are appreciated or to another profession where they are. Home values in the Minneapolis area will fall to almost nothing and the good citizens will flee the city like Rats from a burning building. I think the whole defunding of Police should be put to a vote. I really don’t think many people who live there are in favor of it. In fact I believe the majority of them are in favor of a increased police budget. Its only a small percentage who are. Unfortunately its this small percentage who the leaders of that once great city are listening to. I say if a vote is in Favor of it – Go ahead and do it.

I think this is EXTREMELY short sighted. The suburbs and outstate need a thriving Minneapolis to be the economic engine of the state like it has always been, and Minneapolis needs the suburbs and outstate residents to feel welcome in the city to make it the thriving city it was a short time ago. Hoping MSP defunds the police and destroys itself further will have untold negative consequences for all of us regardless of where in MN we call home.

crappie55369 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mr.Beads wrote:</div>
But don’t let that get in the way of the rurals here for a good ranting on city life.

Yup, we are all speeders, our food sucks, our sport teams suck, our children are emo weenies and we all wish we had 40 acres out in the country wearing matching jean overalls……

X2. Looking through this thread about half of the posters dont live anywhere near the metro including the OP last time i checked yet they are all experts on what happens in the metro

I choose not to live in the metro, but I’ve worked there for 20 years.

Speeding has gone WAYYYY up in the last year.

It used to be if you were going 80 in the left lane you were some maniac.

Now, if you’re not going 80 in the center or right lane of the morning commute you’re in people’s way.

Nobody used to go 70-75 miles an hour through the 45 mph zone of St. Paul 35E. If you did, you were going to get pulled over.

That isn’t the case anymore.

grubson wrote:

Let the defund the police movement succeed and you’ll learn the answer to that question.

You all realize I was responding to a post that claims they are taking turns napping and refusing to respond to calls right? If that is true then I suppose the answer would be not much. If that isn’t true maybe you should take issue with that claim. Either the currently employed police are or are not doing the job they are paid for, which is it?

I live in north Minneapolis, we haven’t seen affective traffic enforcement for over a year. I take my life at risk when I take my motorcycle out and have to stop at all intersections. I see at least two car chases a week and almost got taken out by one last Monday.

BigWerm wrote:

I think this is EXTREMELY short sighted. The suburbs and outstate need a thriving Minneapolis to be the economic engine of the state like it has always been, and Minneapolis needs the suburbs and outstate residents to feel welcome in the city to make it the thriving city it was a short time ago. Hoping MSP defunds the police and destroys itself further will have untold negative consequences for all of us regardless of where in MN we call home.

If you read my whole post then you know I did not say I was in favor of defunding the police. I said if the citizens who live there and the politicians who they have elected are in Favor of it ( Determined by a Vote ) Then I’d like to see it happen. I happen to believe in a True Democracy system ( Not the one we currently have here in the US ) where the majority decided by a fair and verifiable vote.

You say it needs to be a place where visitors feel welcome ( I will add and Safe ) I believe the current situation is far from that right now and I don’t see how anyone can believe that defunding the police dept. will help.

Reef W wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>grubson wrote:</div>
Let the defund the police movement succeed and you’ll learn the answer to that question.

You all realize I was responding to a post that claims they are taking turns napping and refusing to respond to calls right? If that is true then I suppose the answer would be not much. If that isn’t true maybe you should take issue with that claim. Either the currently employed police are or are not doing the job they are paid for, which is it?

I support this if its happening. It equals the support from the people paid to have there backs.

fishthumper wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
I think this is EXTREMELY short sighted. The suburbs and outstate need a thriving Minneapolis to be the economic engine of the state like it has always been, and Minneapolis needs the suburbs and outstate residents to feel welcome in the city to make it the thriving city it was a short time ago. Hoping MSP defunds the police and destroys itself further will have untold negative consequences for all of us regardless of where in MN we call home.

If you read my whole post then you know I did not say I was in favor of defunding the police. I said if the citizens who live there and the politicians who they have elected are in Favor of it ( Determined by a Vote ) Then I’d like to see it happen. I happen to believe in a True Democracy system ( Not the one we currently have here in the US ) where the majority decided by a fair and verifiable vote.

You say it needs to be a place where visitors feel welcome ( I will add and Safe ) I believe the current situation is far from that right now and I don’t see how anyone can believe that defunding the police dept. will help.

You couldn’t pay me enough to go downtown on a Friday or Saturday night. I’m guessing I’m not alone. It will die a slow death…it will soon be what Detroit is.

Reef W wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>grubson wrote:</div>
Let the defund the police movement succeed and you’ll learn the answer to that question.

You all realize I was responding to a post that claims they are taking turns napping and refusing to respond to calls right? If that is true then I suppose the answer would be not much. If that isn’t true maybe you should take issue with that claim. Either the currently employed police are or are not doing the job they are paid for, which is it?

Just telling you what 2 mpls squad car police told me. Heard it right out of there mouths. They are scared to enforce these days due to what’s going on. And no one from the council to the chief has there back, and the people are against them.
Guess that’s what the people get.

And to claim we no nothing because we choose to buy land and live north of the cities is quite hilarious.

fishthumper wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
I think this is EXTREMELY short sighted. The suburbs and outstate need a thriving Minneapolis to be the economic engine of the state like it has always been, and Minneapolis needs the suburbs and outstate residents to feel welcome in the city to make it the thriving city it was a short time ago. Hoping MSP defunds the police and destroys itself further will have untold negative consequences for all of us regardless of where in MN we call home.

If you read my whole post then you know I did not say I was in favor of defunding the police. I said if the citizens who live there and the politicians who they have elected are in Favor of it ( Determined by a Vote ) Then I’d like to see it happen. I happen to believe in a True Democracy system ( Not the one we currently have here in the US ) where the majority decided by a fair and verifiable vote.

You say it needs to be a place where visitors feel welcome ( I will add and Safe ) I believe the current situation is far from that right now and I don’t see how anyone can believe that defunding the police dept. will help.

I read your whole post, and stand by what I said, that is an extremely bad idea. Also, we don’t live in a democracy, we live in a republic and representative democracy which is a very important distinction on this topic. A republic/representative democracy limits (or should) the governments powers, so say if a city wants to go off the rails by defunding the police, the state has power to reign that in, and vice versa on a local, state and federal level. Even if everyone, or an overwhelming majority, of MSP residents wanted to defund the police, the state and feds should never allow it. And hoping they get what they wish for is an idiotic idea, as it would destroy the main economic engine of our state, which would have untold financial consequences on the entire state.

mark Mason wrote:

I live in north Minneapolis, we haven’t seen affective traffic enforcement for over a year. I take my life at risk when I take my motorcycle out and have to stop at all intersections. I see at least two car chases a week and almost got taken out by one last Monday.

Should pm me, we can fish for cats one of these days and biatch about our city council members. I’m in victory.

I have heard the exact same things bearcat has. There’s always a sh!Tshow when things are changing, I do think at the end of this mpls will be better off. Just need the right people in there to do it. Our current govt is not!

Should have brought my popcorn for this one!

BigWerm wrote:

I read your whole post, and stand by what I said, that is an extremely bad idea. Also, we don’t live in a democracy, we live in a republic and representative democracy which is a very important distinction on this topic. A republic/representative democracy limits (or should) the governments powers, so say if a city wants to go off the rails by defunding the police, the state has power to reign that in, and vice versa on a local, state and federal level. Even if everyone, or an overwhelming majority, of MSP residents wanted to defund the police, the state and feds should never allow it. And hoping they get what they wish for is an idiotic idea, as it would destroy the main economic engine of our state, which would have untold financial consequences on the entire state.

Big Werm – It sounds like you and I both agree that defunding the police is a bad idea. That does not mean that the majority of the people who have a dog in the fight ( Those living in Minneapolis ) agree with us. Once again I said the decision should be left to them. Its their tax $ that goes for paying the police officers. I’m well aware that the US is not a True democracy and is a republic/representative democracy. Once again most post said I believe in a true democracy. It gets old hearing people say we are the Worlds greatest Democracy when we truly are not even a real Democracy !!! We are at a point where a large # of people in the US doubt that the current election process is even accurate and fair ( and with good reason ) We have a situation where current elected officials no long make decisions based on the thoughts and beliefs of the majority of their constituent’s as they are supposed to. Lets face it. The system that was created over 200 Years ago no longer works and is Broken.

The next round of elections will tell the story of Minnesota for decades to come. If the same group gets the same type of officials elected from city councils up to Governor the die will be cast. Fortune 500 companies who fear for the safety of their employees, fear for the destruction of their property and lament the lack of a willing workforce will just pack their bags. Along with the loss of jobs will be the loss of tax base. Loss of tax base leads to loss of services.

But hey….. the rights of a few far out numbers the rights of the majority.

The decline of the education system shows its self quite prominently in the election booths.

Dutchboy wrote:

The decline of the education system shows its self quite prominently in the election booths.

I’m not sure its the Decline of the education system as much as the political lean of those in the education system, and them being allowed to press their views on the students. There was a time that political views were not allowed in the school systems, but that is no longer the case. Once again, I believe that there is a big difference between the views of Major metro teachers and those teaching in more rural setting. I also believe those teaching in metro area are far more likely to voice and push their views – Once again this is all just my opinions and I could be totally wrong.

At one time the pledge of allegiance was also allowed. Christmas was a thing not a holiday, Easter was a event not a break, no was a allowable word for the teachers to use. Little Johnny had to stand in the corner, got detention, and had rules he had to follow. If little Johnny told the teacher to F-Off he got kicked out (after bouncing off a few lockers) until he learned respect.

The ship has sailed, the cows are out of the barn, the inmates are running the asylum. Call it what you want but until control is taken back it will only get worse.

Rights are earned along with respect, they aren’t a God given right.

The first time I heard “political correctness” I knew we were in trouble.

stout93 wrote:

You couldn’t pay me enough to go downtown on a Friday or Saturday night. I’m guessing I’m not alone.

The last time I was downtown, which is 10 miles away from me, was for a Twins game in 2017. Four or five days later a woman was killed (stabbed) in the same parking ramp I parked in. I almost went to a Christmas concert in 2019 before I found out which part of downtown the concert hall was. I don’t miss downtown at all.

I grew up in the schitties and bailed for the north country in my 20’s. I still have family and friends down there I visit from time to time, but I honestly don’t think I will ever willingly enter downtown MPLS (or even St. Paul) ever again. The last time I spent any time there was for a work function in about 2015. Even then I proclaimed I’d probably never come back to downtown. Now that there is a full on class/race war happening, not a chance! I hope it doesn’t burn to the ground, but at this point, I don’t see how it doesn’t.

Reef W wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>grubson wrote:</div>
Let the defund the police movement succeed and you’ll learn the answer to that question.

You all realize I was responding to a post that claims they are taking turns napping and refusing to respond to calls right? If that is true then I suppose the answer would be not much. If that isn’t true maybe you should take issue with that claim. Either the currently employed police are or are not doing the job they are paid for, which is it?

OK… now we have the Police Police…. imagine at your job, if you try doing it, your boss yells at you and even might imprison you for doing it. Are you ready to jump right into it ??? 15 months ago I would see your logic… not today. People need to be careful what they wish for… its coming true.

Something to keep in mind. Even though you are not seeing cars stopped, it doesn’t mean it’s still not happening. Just not at the level you are probably used to seeing. The call load is up and departments are short handed. Resources are spread thin. Even with the State Patrol, they have regular calls they take and handle. They do more than just right 65/55 tickets. During the height of Covid, yes, Officers were told not to stop cars. Things are getting back to normal and traffic stops will be a more regular occurrence.
DT

I see plenty of squads to and from my way to work in Minneapolis. Yes, they aren’t writing as many tickets but who can blame them. When proactive police work has become racial profiling it makes it tough to want to be proactive….

Hey, are you guys telling me it’s not safe/worth coming to the NW Sports Show in March ’22? And Chicago gets a bad rap?

HRG

Chicago has it’s own issues, but they are related to those in Mpls.

Dutchboy wrote:

Chicago has it’s own issues, but they are related to those in Mpls.

They will be our problem soon. They are going to add a second amtrak train from Chicago to Minneapolis in the near future.

And no, you will be safe at the Sports Show. I go every year.

Dutchboy wrote:

Chicago has it’s own issues, but they are related to those in Mpls.

Don’t you worry buddy, Al W and I are meeting in WI next week to work out the details of Lori L spending her 2nd term in MPLS,,,,,

HRG

Hot Runr Guy wrote:

Hey, are you guys telling me it’s not safe/worth coming to the NW Sports Show in March ’22?

Oops, I did go to the Boat Show in Jan. 2020 and ordered my new boat.