Is there a end?

  • gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17792
    #2056692

    Nobody is mentioning the fact that this virus is almost surely lab created… by the Chinese

    Inconclusive. Possible though. Without the Chinese governments cooperation, we’ll never know.

    One thing is for certain. It did in fact start in China, whether it started in a lab or naturally.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #2056694

    It did in fact start in China, whether it started in a lab or naturally.

    It was first reported in the form of sick people in China. For all we know it could have “started” in a lab in Russia, Canada, maybe even the US…. hell maybe it’s been around for years and it just now started infecting people.

    At this point, on the subject of covid, what anyone calls Knowledge has nothing to do with facts. It’s just a collection of beliefs from a myriad of sources with ALL of the sources having dubious credibility depending on who you ask….

    Fun times we are living in. Pass the popcorn. Side note try eating milk duds mixed with popcorn. You can thank me later

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23311
    #2056696

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gimruis wrote:</div>
    It did in fact start in China, whether it started in a lab or naturally.

    It was first reported in the form of sick people in China. For all we know it could have “started” in a lab in Russia, Canada, maybe even the US…. hell maybe it’s been around for years and it just now started infecting people.

    At this point, on the subject of covid, what anyone calls Knowledge has nothing to do with facts. It’s just a collection of beliefs from a myriad of sources with ALL of the sources having dubious credibility depending on who you ask….

    Fun times we are living in. Pass the popcorn. Side note try eating milk duds mixed with popcorn. You can thank me later

    sick people who worked in said Wuhan lab? Dohkay.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #2056702

    My comment obviously doesn’t include you big_g. You know everything. Always have. Quite a gift you have

    Evan_peterson12
    Rosemount, MN
    Posts: 91
    #2056704

    I don;t think we need to end spending on things but rather create more spending on stocking walleye in every body of water in Minnesota that can handle them. XD

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #2056710

    To captains comment (cause IDO quote function isn’t working)

    Remember covid is just the flu. You telling me that no one in the world displayed flu like symptoms until a few scientists in China showed up on your TV screen?

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23311
    #2056711

    My comment obviously doesn’t include you big_g. You know everything. Always have. Quite a gift you have

    Yeah it’s really hard to believe all the evidence. Mind boggling in fact. That’s not considering the fact Canadian developed viruses have also been detected in china that they in fact sent to Wuhan.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22529
    #2056712

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    Milk Duds and popcorn woot

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23311
    #2056716

    To captains comment (cause IDO quote function isn’t working)

    Remember covid is just the flu. You telling me that no one in the world displayed flu like symptoms until a few scientists in China showed up on your TV screen?

    once covid hit ALL tests were covid only. They didn’t detect seasonal flu. Having said that viruses battle each other in nature like anything else. Whichever one is stronger they defeat the other. So covid defeated the flu. Simple as that. It’s well documented. Have you seen what’s happening with RSV right now? It disappeared for a year and now it’s ridiculous! That’s scary for the very young. We’ve had kids who had it and I will tell you it was the worst experience. The main thing to realize is that viruses do what viruses do.

    greg christiansen
    Posts: 19
    #2056738

    Well its always interesting. Wether covid came from hither or yon it can kill ya. less fishing. NO GOOD Ihope ya got buttered popcorn. Maybe with caramel glaze! Sometimes a sweet tooth

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18704
    #2056761

    Is there “AN” end.

    Sharon
    Moderator
    SE Metro
    Posts: 5473
    #2056762

    Is there “AN” end.

    Oh God, thanks Suzuki!! That’s been driving me freaking nuts!

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18704
    #2056764

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>suzuki wrote:</div>
    Is there “AN” end.

    Oh God, thanks Suzuki!! That’s been driving me freaking nuts!

    jester the way the thread was going I just thought 90 degree turn was in order. Meant to be funny.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20764
    #2056765

    I just keep singing the doors song in my head, THIS IS THE END

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17792
    #2056767

    It was first reported in the form of sick people in China. For all we know it could have “started” in a lab in Russia, Canada, maybe even the US…. hell maybe it’s been around for years and it just now started infecting people

    That’s possible but very unlikely. China simply needs to be transparent and cooperate, which they have not done. Most of the evidence does point to Wuhan and they should provide every piece of data that is available. They are not. They have manipulated the data and only permitted information that is “approved” by the Chinese government. If we ever want to get to the bottom of this, we need to know how and where it started. It will greatly aid in preventing another one.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16766
    #2056770

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
    It was first reported in the form of sick people in China. For all we know it could have “started” in a lab in Russia, Canada, maybe even the US…. hell maybe it’s been around for years and it just now started infecting people

    That’s possible but very unlikely. China simply needs to be transparent and cooperate, which they have not done. Most of the evidence does point to Wuhan and they should provide every piece of data that is available. They are not. They have manipulated the data and only permitted information that is “approved” by the Chinese government. If we ever want to get to the bottom of this, we need to know how and where it started. It will greatly aid in preventing another one.

    It started by sending all our manufacturing jobs over there. They now have this country right by the balls and are starting to squeeze. With nobody to keep China in check it will only get worse.

    Where the virus originated? Doesn’t really matter at this point if you can neither prove it or do anything about it.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17792
    #2056771

    Where the virus originated? Doesn’t really matter at this point if you can neither prove it or do anything about it.

    That’s my point. If the Chinese government cooperated, we could do something about it.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16766
    #2056772

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
    Where the virus originated? Doesn’t really matter at this point if you can neither prove it or do anything about it.

    That’s my point. If the Chinese government cooperated, we could do something about it.

    What? Ya gonna send them a bill? Have Uncle Joe send them a “stern” note not to do it again? Threaten not to unload a container ship?

    The ship has sailed, there is nothing that can be done.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11875
    #2056773

    Only 62% 1st dose and 53% fully vaccinated.

    That is for the entire population, which a large portion (12 and under) aren’t even eligible to receive the vaccine, so using that is literally the definition of scare tactics. 71.3% of everyone eligible (over age 12) has received one dose, 73.4% of everyone over 18 (like I stated), and 91.6% of the most at risk population over 65 years old have received at least 1 dose. Those same metrics go 60.5%, 62.7% and 81.3% for receiving both doses.

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/?#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18704
    #2056777

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    stevenoak
    Posts: 1719
    #2056786

    It ends when your creditors realize your assets don’t cover your debt. I graduated 1975. Then it was huge that our national debt may reach 1 trillion over 200 years of running our country. This was after paying for Vietnam. By 97, it was 5 trillion. And has grown gradually till Covid. Current proposal is 3 trillion for the next one. Now the graph looks like a NASA launch past 23T. Have people tell me they didn’t need the stimulus money they received. I tell them to invest it for their Grand kids. They are going to need it.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #2056794

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
    It was first reported in the form of sick people in China. For all we know it could have “started” in a lab in Russia, Canada, maybe even the US…. hell maybe it’s been around for years and it just now started infecting people

    That’s possible but very unlikely. China simply needs to be transparent and cooperate, which they have not done. Most of the evidence does point to Wuhan and they should provide every piece of data that is available. They are not. They have manipulated the data and only permitted information that is “approved” by the Chinese government. If we ever want to get to the bottom of this, we need to know how and where it started. It will greatly aid in preventing another one.

    Agree. Also agree with Dutch’s points

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #2056798

    Light Rail. One of the very few mistakes Jesse made while in office.

    Jesse’s amusement park ride.

    And no, it never ends, we just move from one crisis to another. It’s amazing how quickly a great country can go to hell. Seven months to be exact.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17792
    #2056813

    What? Ya gonna send them a bill? Have Uncle Joe send them a “stern” note not to do it again? Threaten not to unload a container ship?

    The ship has sailed, there is nothing that can be done.

    That’s not really what I meant. You keep trying to make it political. I’m not going there.

    The World Health Organization sent an investigation team in there this past spring. Unfortunately, that investigation was completely manipulated by China. They selected the individuals who could do it. They only shared data that they chose to. They need to open up their entire system of information related to this to the rest of the world so it can be analyzed and answers can be found.

    Its not just the United States that wants answers, although we do have the most illness from it. Leaders from Europe, Australia, Brazil, and Canada have all called for China to cooperate and they still aren’t doing it. The only country that isn’t calling for it is…Russia. Hmmmm

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17792
    #2056814

    Jesse’s amusement park ride.

    I don’t use the light rail at this time, but when I was in the office regularly and traveling for work regularly, I used it. It was very convenient and inexpensive. There is a station a block from my office in Mpls that takes me directly to each airport terminal in about 35 minutes. No taxis, parking, or rush hour traffic to deal with at the cost of like 3 bucks.

    Extending it to the southwest metro is dumb. There is nothing out there of importance. No stadium, no airports, no mega malls, no capital.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11875
    #2056818

    The World Health Organization sent an investigation team in there this past spring. Unfortunately, that investigation was completely manipulated by China. They selected the individuals who could do it. They only shared data that they chose to. They need to open up their entire system of information related to this to the rest of the world so it can be analyzed and answers can be found.

    While I agree with you, that is just never going to happen with a Communist country. They control everything within their borders, and increasingly outside of their borders due to their growing economic power. And honestly unless us and all of our allies are prepared to go to war with China, it’s kind of irrelevant. FWIW I agree with Jon Stewart on the Lab Leak:
    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?view=detail&mid=26967D059B032EFF042326967D059B032EFF0423&q=jon+stewart+on+colbert youtube&shtp=GetUrl&shid=3dd4127f-8478-4930-8510-bce2ee1758fa&shtk=Sm9obiBTdGV3YXJ0IG9uIHRoZSB3dWhhbiBsYWIgbGVhayB0cnV0aCBTdGVwaGVuIENvbGJlcnQ%3D&shdk=aG93IEkndmUgbWlzc2VkIGhpbS4gbGF0ZSBzaG93IHdpdGggU3RlcGhlbiBDb2xiZXJ0&shhk=e0d5CfI1%2FK5bh0Ou6z51dWMLwLT9TE%2BXHM4HwS0lEaY%3D&form=VDSHOT&shth=OVP.bWHo2DzO5WemygojC4IniwHgFo

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22529
    #2056833

    I think all of you know, if we had a President with balls, China would pay. Those of you who know who could do it… that ship pushed off, but hasn’t sailed yet whistling

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