Is a diesel for me?

  • tmyboy2001
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 284
    #2306477

    Looking for your honest experiences/opinions: in the market for a new truck. Trying to decide if a diesel is the right choice for me. Currently have a 2017 Ram 1500 5.7. It’s old, tired, and starting to add up in the repair bills. We have a 22′ pontoon boat that we tow with a bunk trailer here and there, 18′ Enclosed trailer that I haul around during ice fishing with the atv’s and gear. I drive 20 miles round trip to work each day, and this would be my daily driver. Gas or diesel?

    Iowaboy1
    Posts: 3829
    #2306484

    No, not for your uses, a 20 mile round trip will coke up the turbo in no time.
    Diesels are meant for pulling heavy loads all day everyday, then add the expense of DEF, treating the fuel, etc.
    Consider the extra cost of diesel fuel while you are at it.

    walleyesforme
    Posts: 442
    #2306486

    If you’ve had the RAM that long I think you’d be impressed with the performance of a pedal bike compared to that thing.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13661
    #2306491

    Power/torque of a diesel is a given. What do you want for longevity of your drivetrain 250K miles or 500K+ I made the jump to diesel in 2001 and never looked back. I drive my trucks until they are rusted away. my ’01 duramax was just under 600K miles when I sold it, My ’03 Durmax was nearing 500 when I sold it. I ran into a great deal on my current Dodge and for the $$$ I accept it. It is definitely not the ride of a GMC. But at 240K miles, its going strong. So I look at how many gassers would I have gone through in the same period.

    My towing uses vary, but enclosed trailer, car hauler (open) , a 30′ enclosed hauler, camper, and bass boat. I frequently drive between my house and farm (about 120 miles each way). Then add in all the typical needs of a pick up.

    Maintenance is always a topic of cost, which isn’t cheap. I change oil every 9K miles. I run Rotella in spring through fall and flush run synthetic in coldest part of winter. 3 gallon Rottela box is about $45 and I run K&N filter at about 17-20 each. Fuel filter every other oil change at 70ish. I grease each oil change and a tube at $10 last a few changes. Brakes and some parts cost more. many parts are comparable in cost.

    Torque to the rear wheels. If you want tires to last, you buy E load highway, have some weight in the rear, and keep your foot off the accelerator. Taking off from a dead stop will chirp the tires easily. Not like drag racing but just a little chirp. You have more torque so taking off with no load can easily give you a little slip. that will decrease tire life if your always hammering it.

    Here right now by my farm, gas is about 2.77 and diesel is 3.07.-3.18. I use a fuel app an get about .03-.06 off per gallon. Since 2007 the reformulated diesel sucks donkey balls. Additionally, try to stay away for the “bio-blends”. I keep a bottle of additive in the truck just in case I get trapped filling up in Iowa. My 01 by far was the best on milage with pre-reformulated crap. But all that aside, I range about 22-14 per gallon pending load and hills/mountains. Sure is funny crossing a mountain pass and passing guys pulling a camper. Half way up the grade they are starving for air/power. I just steadily cruise by them.

    Winter hassles also get kicked around a lot. I plug my heater core in when its going to be below zero. I have an outdoor GFI outlet on the side of my garage so no big deal to plug it in before going to bed. Unplug and fire up in the morning. I let it warm up for 5-10 minutes before I leave. For me its no big deal. Twice I bought fuel that was falsely advertised as winter blend and it gelled. Each was during a artic blast and near 20 below. 1 time was a major PITA and waited the 4 or so days to warm up. The other was a bottle of 911 and open the rail and pump out the crap until fuel flowed and back in business.

    Only you can decide what is best for you. For me, its more than twice the longevity of the drive train and the power when I need it. Especially when gas engines are tweaked to get all the power they can out of a smaller engine.

    If you do go diesel, will need to relearn the engine / road noise Vs speed. Very different sound when your doing over 70-75 mph at barely 2000 rpms

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16810
    #2306492

    911 is miracle juice.

    You pay more up front for a diesel.
    You pay more to maintain it.
    Fuel costs more.
    It will last a long time.

    If you drive 10,000 or so miles a month and tow get a diesel, otherwise suffer with another gasser.

    John Rasmussen
    Blaine
    Posts: 6474
    #2306514

    No, not for your uses, a 20 mile round trip will coke up the turbo in no time.
    Diesels are meant for pulling heavy loads all day everyday, then add the expense of DEF, treating the fuel, etc.
    Consider the extra cost of diesel fuel while you are at it.

    Agree, doesn’t sound like you need a diesel.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22548
    #2306534

    HE’S BACK !!! coffee crazy doah jester

    walleyesforme
    Posts: 442
    #2306542

    911 is miracle juice.

    You pay more up front for a diesel.
    You pay more to maintain it.
    Fuel costs more.
    It will last a long time.

    If you drive 10,000 or so miles a month and tow get a diesel, otherwise suffer with another gasser.

    Or get another RAM and suffer no matter what route you take.

    B-man
    Posts: 5950
    #2306544

    God that guy is annoying…

    Any who, if you feel a half ton gasser would handle what you do (sounds like it to me) I’d go that route.

    Diesels are awesome, but for a daily driver I’d go with a lighter duty gasser.

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    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10653
    #2306548

    And he’s at the top of his game.

    Come on “Or get another RAM and suffer no matter what route you take.” That’S Priceless!

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3958
    #2306550

    God that guy is annoying…

    I have a different word for him. whistling

    grubson
    Harris, Somewhere in VNP
    Posts: 1642
    #2306554

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
    911 is miracle juice.

    You pay more up front for a diesel.
    You pay more to maintain it.
    Fuel costs more.
    It will last a long time.

    If you drive 10,000 or so miles a month and tow get a diesel, otherwise suffer with another gasser.

    Or get another RAM and suffer no matter what route you take.

    Just an FYI, you’re talking to a man with a Ram that has 425,000 miles on it. How many miles does your truck have? Can’t complain about a truck coming up on a half a million miles.

    walleyesforme
    Posts: 442
    #2306568

    You could buy two trucks of a different brand for less than a RAM and go way farther than that

    B-man
    Posts: 5950
    #2306569

    You could buy two trucks of a different brand for less than a RAM and go way farther than that

    Now we know you’re officially a special person jester

    Again, what kind of superior truck do you own?

    How many miles?

    How many hours in the shop?

    How many recalls?

    Patiently waiting rotflol

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10653
    #2306571

    Santa drives a Ram so I’m not to worried about getting my wheelhouse I asked him for.

    walleyesforme
    Posts: 442
    #2306574

    Santa drives a Ram so I’m not to worried about getting my wheelhouse I asked him for.

    He’s probably trying to figure out how to get the tongue jack up because it squatted down so far when he hooked it up right now.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16810
    #2306584

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Eelpoutguy wrote:</div>
    Santa drives a Ram so I’m not to worried about getting my wheelhouse I asked him for.

    He’s probably trying to figure out how to get the tongue jack up because it squatted down so far when he hooked it up right now.

    In a few years when you are old enough to drive you can let us know what choice of truck you make. coffee

    isu22andy
    Posts: 1807
    #2306588

    If you got enough disposable income , a nice heated garage or shop id say get one . I love towing with a diesel. That said they ride rougher than a 1/2 ton . Kinda like boats – no one ever said they had too much power .

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