I'm not trusting the reason. Maybe I am wrong.

  • pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1720858

    Right now, there are 500 homeless tribe members looking for places to live on the reservation, and 100 more applying for tribal land allotments where they can build a home.

    You don’t trust that this is true, or you don’t trust that it’s a valid reason for wanting the land back?

    This has got to be awful for the people who own these cabins. They have no leverage to sell and a lot will end up just having to walk away. I feel for them. But the Knowlton guy hits the nail on the head:

    “It’s their sovereign nation here. This is their land,” he said. “I’ve come to terms with it. I appreciate the time I’ve had here. I just wish I had more.”

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #1720859

    Post deleted.

    Lack of research for my opinion.

    Jonesy
    Posts: 1148
    #1720861

    Right now, there are 500 homeless tribe members looking for places to live on the reservation, and 100 more applying for tribal land allotments where they can build a home.

    You don’t trust that this is true, or you don’t trust that it’s a valid reason for wanting the land back?

    This has got to be awful for the people who own these cabins. They have no leverage to sell and a lot will end up just having to walk away. I feel for them. But the Knowlton guy hits the nail on the head:

    “It’s their sovereign nation here. This is their land,” he said. “I’ve come to terms with it. I appreciate the time I’ve had here. I just wish I had more.”

    I’m sure thats true. However I don’t think it’s the only reason. I feel like there are some politics behind the reason. Obviously they have the right to do this I don’t dispute that.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11624
    #1720864

    It definitely sucks for anyone who developed their cabin, but wonder why anyone would do that when the lot is leased and the lease can be pulled at any time.

    404 ERROR
    MN
    Posts: 3918
    #1720865

    It definitely sucks for anyone who developed their cabin, but wonder why anyone would do that when the lot is leased and the lease can be pulled at any time.

    I was wondering the same. Sour situation for all involved, including the tribe. Yes, the tribe is getting to use the land that they own, but they also got a pretty big black eye from the whole deal. I understand the cabin owners frustration and I also understand the tribe wanting to put the land they rightfully own to “good use”. They leased the land out of necessity for cash flow. Now that they have a decent cash flow coming in, they want to work to improve their lands for their residents, which is totally understandable.

    David Blais
    Posts: 766
    #1720928

    Why is there homeless Indians? That casino is never full. Give free rooms to them

    blackbay
    mn
    Posts: 870
    #1720934

    I bet 2 things go on. Nothing gets built on the lots if the people take the structures off and the structures still standing end up getting sold within a few years. Call me a skeptic but I don’t believe they are taking prime lakeshore places for homeless people.

    Jonesy
    Posts: 1148
    #1720953

    I bet 2 things go on. Nothing gets built on the lots if the people take the structures off and the structures still standing end up getting sold within a few years. Call me a skeptic but I don’t believe they are taking prime lakeshore places for homeless people.

    Yeah same here.

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1720956

    I bet 2 things go on. Nothing gets built on the lots if the people take the structures off and the structures still standing end up getting sold within a few years. Call me a skeptic but I don’t believe they are taking prime lakeshore places for homeless people.

    I guess I’m just crazy and naive. According to the article the income from those lease payments generated $500k a year which is half the Leech Lake DNR’s annual budget. I know there’s not a lot of good will to go around right now, but that’s a steep price to pay, for what? Spite? All politics aside, that’s just idiotic.

    Time will tell.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1720964

    “It’s their sovereign nation here. This is their land,” he said. “I’ve come to terms with it. I appreciate the time I’ve had here. I just wish I had more.”

    Was this another Everts camper?

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1720966

    Idiotic is to take any of these moves for face value.

    There’s a larger narrative going on with the states and tribes, this is simply one move on their part.

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1721017

    Idiotic is to take any of these moves for face value

    Gonna curl up on my idiot couch with my idiot wife and dogs while y’all paranoid types try to figure out the end game and hatch a plot to foil the next big power move. Good luck saving us all!

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1721141

    This is interesting to see finally unfold. My next door neighbors at Mille Lacs sold their cabin on Leech 7 years ago and moved down to Mille Lacs. Their former place is now one of the properties being forced out. We were just talking about this yesterday. There was legitimate concern about this “falling out” back then, 7 or more years ago and is why they decided to move on. How they had a clue before some of the other’s…don’t know unless the holdout’s were in denial that it would happen.
    I think this is a power maneuver on behalf of the Leech Lake Band of Ojibway. This statement; “Right now, there are 500 homeless tribe members looking for places to live on the reservation, and 100 more applying for tribal land allotments where they can build a home.”, is rhetoric in that the shortage is in livable homes or structures, not available land. Look at the reservation boundary’s, there is more than enough available land….it’s certainly not all being “crowded out”.
    It is certainly their right to do this and offering lake front property and the recreational opportunities to Band members is noble, but it is a “red herring” to maintain that there is a dire shortage of “living land” available and this take back is needed to provide housing for “500 homeless tribe members looking for places to live on the reservation.”

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    Tuma
    Inactive
    Farmington, MN
    Posts: 1403
    #1721311

    If you did anything on leased land other hand having a structure that you can easy mover was your own fault and a gamble you choose to take. I hope the land they took back just doesn’t become a trash pit.
    Here is a better image of the Ojibway reservation land. Most of the property around Leech and Cass lakes was sold and developed long ago.

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    bigcrappie
    Blaine
    Posts: 4322
    #1721338

    If your homeless how you going to afford to build a home on this reclaimed land?

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
    Posts: 11804
    #1721512

    If your homeless how you going to afford to build a home on this reclaimed land?

    oh trust me, our federal government will trip all over themselves giving them money!!!!!!!!

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
    Posts: 11804
    #1721513

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/10/12/leech-lake-band-retakes-minnesota-waterfront-land

    Yikes this has to suck. If the property is going to be like any of the other tribal properties near the stony point campground I imagine there will be tons of broken down cars and crap looking structures. Hope I’m wrong.

    sure hope the EPA keeps tabs on tese properties. not that oil and antifreeze is seeping into the ground and lake!!!!!!!!!

    Red Eye
    Posts: 947
    #1730246

    I sure hope any structures that can’t be moved or sold for a decent price are burnt to the ground before the owners have to be out.

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