St Croix ice rod dissapointment

  • Robin Holden
    Nestor Falls ON
    Posts: 54
    #830937

    St.Croix prints right on the website where each brand is made. I believe one is even made in Malaysia. I will try and find it.

    woody_036
    Spooner, Wi
    Posts: 198
    #830938

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    It,s mainly the ice rods they are imported. all the open water rods are still made in the usa and at that 30 minutes south of me is the factory. so if i want a st croix i go get one.

    Ajs



    Are all the st.croix’s open water rods made in WI? I thought I saw something on here about mexico/china?


    The more expensive open water rods that St. Criox makes are made in Park Falls, WI. A year or two ago they started having China making some of the open water rods and they sell them at a cheaper price. So now there are rods made in both locations. On the rod, it will say where it was made.

    ajs
    Mellen,WI
    Posts: 248
    #830939

    Ive never paid a whole lot of attention to the open water rods i only own one 8,6 wildriver. But i do know one thing if they end up out sourcing to other countries for all their rods ill go to a differant company for all my rods.

    Ajs

    bosman
    DeSoto, WI
    Posts: 914
    #830947

    If I’m not chasing shallow water crappie with the 4 & 1/2 foot Pulsators ~ I’m using PIR28ML Premier St Croix ice rods fitted with Frabill spring bobbers. I’ve escorted everything from guppy size gills to healthy LMB & Walleye topside with them. A great balance of sensativity & power. No complaints. St Croix can keep their spring bobber system though. Innovative & intriguing design but I couldn’t seem to put the mojo on the Cecils like I can with a Frabill.

    primetime82
    Posts: 28
    #830951

    Now I’m pist! My eyes on mine are pretty shaky as well! I have not used it yet as I got it for christmas! I just looked over mine after reading this post and my 1st eye is bent to the right and does not match up with the other 2 eyes…I guess not really huge problem but when someone purchased it for 50 bucks it should be built correctly! I didn’t even want the Rod but Gander does not carry real weeds anymore and that was my second option….

    ajs
    Mellen,WI
    Posts: 248
    #830953

    Are you talking the tip or the first eye from the reel if its the tip give it a slight twist my legend has done this several times dont know why but i give it a twist and i can get it back where it belongs.Also the tip itself is not loose the blank is actually twisting for some reason.

    Robin Holden
    Nestor Falls ON
    Posts: 54
    #831186

    Here’s the current list of USA made rods:
    LEGEND ELITE
    LEGEND INSHORE
    LEGEND SURF
    LEGEND TOURNAMENT
    LEGEND ULTRA
    AVID
    AVID INSHORE
    PREMIER
    PREMIER SURF
    TIDEMASTER INSHORE
    WILD RIVER
    IMPERIAL FLY (at the moment)
    Imported:
    MOJO BASS
    MOJO SURF
    TRIUMPH (all models)
    PREMIER ICE
    RIO SANTO FLY

    r._kayle
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 205
    #807714

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    If I’m not chasing shallow water crappie with the 4 & 1/2 foot Pulsators ~ I’m using PIR28ML Premier St Croix ice rods fitted with Frabill spring bobbers. I’ve escorted everything from guppy size gills to healthy LMB & Walleye topside with them. A great balance of sensativity & power. No complaints. St Croix can keep their spring bobber system though. Innovative & intriguing design but I couldn’t seem to put the mojo on the Cecils like I can with a Frabill.


    I’m running the same rods as you with the same spring bobber. You are right. I fished the legend spring that was a buddies rod and you can’t get the cecil nor the ratso to preform even close to what you can with a ht or Frabill spring. I love the rods. Think I have around six of them and have only had one problem and it was this year. Stored the rod in a rod case in the garage and when I pulled it out it had warped terribly and the guides were all off. Too top it off when I grabbed the tip it was as brittle as peanut butter and so was the rest of the rod. You could flick your finger and break part of the blank. I don’t know if it was because it was stored in the garage where the heat was all summer and that turned it but it was bad. Other than that no problems. I do however recommend everyone to check them out before they purchase because I have seen some poor quality st. croix ice rods out on the shelf. Legends and Premeirs.

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #831223

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    I fished the legend spring that was a buddies rod and you can’t get the cecil nor the ratso to preform even close to what you can with a ht or Frabill spring.


    If you have the assortment of springs offered by ST. Croix for there spring bobber system, there is not a spoon or jig that you cannot get the action out of that you are lookin’ for.

    Just another 2 cents worth or my neck stickin’ out again

    r._kayle
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 205
    #831229

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    I fished the legend spring that was a buddies rod and you can’t get the cecil nor the ratso to preform even close to what you can with a ht or Frabill spring.


    If you have the assortment of springs offered by ST. Croix for there spring bobber system, there is not a spoon or jig that you cannot get the action out of that you are lookin’ for.

    Just another 2 cents worth or my neck stickin’ out again


    Didn’t know that last year nor was the rod mine. Maybe they are worth another shot but it’s hard to get away from something that produces each time you are out. Kind of a “Don’t fix it if it isn’t broken” thing. I will definately try it agian though. Appreciate the info.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #831231

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    I fished the legend spring that was a buddies rod and you can’t get the cecil nor the ratso to preform even close to what you can with a ht or Frabill spring.


    If you have the assortment of springs offered by ST. Croix for there spring bobber system, there is not a spoon or jig that you cannot get the action out of that you are lookin’ for.

    Just another 2 cents worth or my neck stickin’ out again


    With the heaviest spring you can fish a 1/8 oz. spoon as long as you’re not looking to get too crazy with the jigging motion. Smaller spoons, like a cecil, etc., wouldn’t be a problem.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #831236

    Monday morning I’ll be catching walleyes on Rainy on those spoons.

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #831237

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    Monday morning I’ll be catching walleyes on Rainy on those spoons.


    Sure…rub it in

    r._kayle
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 205
    #831240

    Clown color was the ticket last week up there James.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #831248

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    Clown color was the ticket last week up there James.


    Thanks for the tip. I’m heading northing with the full assortment and a full tank of gas in the snowmobile.

    Pete Bauer
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2599
    #831251

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    Clown color was the ticket last week up there James.


    Thanks for the tip. I’m heading northing with the full assortment and a full tank of gas in the snowmobile.


    Can I come? I’m unemployed and ready for a road trip

    bigpike
    Posts: 6259
    #831273

    Hey Pete when are we gonna hook up for a little action on the ice or river?? I sure have been catching them on my home turf

    Pete Bauer
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2599
    #831274

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    Hey Pete when are we gonna hook up for a little action on the ice or river?? I sure have been catching them on my home turf


    You name the time and place

    r._kayle
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 205
    #831280

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    Clown color was the ticket last week up there James.


    Thanks for the tip. I’m heading northing with the full assortment and a full tank of gas in the snowmobile.


    From what I hear where you guys are going you’ll pry need that full tank of gas for sure!!

    tr
    Plymouth
    Posts: 195
    #315742

    Sorry to hear the bad news. i have 6 croix rods and have had 4 of them for years, never been happier with a rod and i wont buy anything else. i would still think of them and if you call the warranty department im sure they will make it right, i did break one on a fish and sent it back for a new one and they didnt even hesitate. Good luck

    TR

    Richard V.
    Somewhere over the rainbow
    Posts: 2596
    #831669

    Well the rod I ordered came in yesterday and everything was perfect as far as I could see. As a mater of fact I took it out and broke it in this afternoon for about a hour and a half. The bigest gill I caught was a little shy of 8″ and most of them were a little over 6″, it was a blast for 90 minutes.

    targaman
    Inactive
    Wilton, WI
    Posts: 2759
    #909873

    I just bought the st. croix premier pir28ml today. This rod will be used for crappies primarily. Just wondering how this rod will do with an accidental hookup on a nice walleye? Does it have the backbone for a good hookset? Is a 1/8th oz. spoon out of the question with this rod?

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #909875

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    I just bought the st. croix premier pir28ml today. This rod will be used for crappies primarily. Just wondering how this rod will do with an accidental hookup on a nice walleye? Does it have the backbone for a good hookset? Is a 1/8th oz. spoon out of the question with this rod?


    I’ve pulled these rods from walleye duty for the lack of backbone, which is particularly evident when fishing deeper water. Using braid helps but then braid is an issue in cold temps so it isn’t a universal solution. I have landed some BIG walleyes on this rod… getting the fish to the surface isn’t an issue once the hooks are sunk. Getting the hooks to stick is another story and I’ve missed far too many fish on spoons and on livebait fished deadstick to ever use them as a dedicated walleye rod again.

    Yes, it will handle a 1/8 oz. spoon but only “just barely.” Again… not a good choice in my opinion but in a pinch you can get by.

    ajs
    Mellen,WI
    Posts: 248
    #909902

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    I just bought the st. croix premier pir28ml today. This rod will be used for crappies primarily. Just wondering how this rod will do with an accidental hookup on a nice walleye? Does it have the backbone for a good hookset? Is a 1/8th oz. spoon out of the question with this rod?


    I’ve pulled these rods from walleye duty for the lack of backbone, which is particularly evident when fishing deeper water. Using braid helps but then braid is an issue in cold temps so it isn’t a universal solution. I have landed some BIG walleyes on this rod… getting the fish to the surface isn’t an issue once the hooks are sunk. Getting the hooks to stick is another story and I’ve missed far too many fish on spoons and on livebait fished deadstick to ever use them as a dedicated walleye rod again.

    Yes, it will handle a 1/8 oz. spoon but only “just barely.” Again… not a good choice in my opinion but in a pinch you can get by.


    X2 on what james said i usually stick to at least a medium action premier for walleyes. But for crappies it should be a sweet little rod.

    Ajs

    targaman
    Inactive
    Wilton, WI
    Posts: 2759
    #909923

    Thats kind of what I was thinking. I’ll probably pick up a medium action for my walleye needs.

    hnd
    Posts: 1579
    #910024

    have not had an issue with my st. croix legend. it was about 5 years old when i got my mits on it and i replaced the spring bobber…no complaints from me so far. i’ve used the ht genz. i prefer the st. croix. i paid like 20 bones for the st. croix.

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