Jiffy oil mix help

I have the model 77 Legend Lightning? Anyway, any advice on the mix? I’m currently at 24:1. It is really cold blooded and I was wondering if changing the mix would do anything. Any thoughts?

Straight from the manual…

Use this chart to mix gasoline and Jiffy Synthetic Blend Two-Cycle Oil with Fuel Stabilizer for Jiffy Power Ice Drills and BADGER Earth Augers.

Ratio for Tecumseh TVO85 (3 hp), AV520 (3 hp), AV600 (3.5 hp), TMO49 (2 hp), TC200 (1.6 hp) and TC300 (2 hp) engines is 40:1.

Gallons of Gasoline

1

2

Ounces of Two-Cycle Oil

3.2

6.4

Tip: We recommend preparing a mixture in a one gallon gasoline container to keep the mixture as fresh as possible. For seasonal use, mix your fuel in the season in which it will be used annually.

Tip: Tecumseh recommends that a fuel stabilizer be added to the mixture to keep it as fresh as possible. Jiffy has excellent results with Jiffy Oil with Fuel Stabilizer.

Tip: Jiffy Synthetic Blend Two-Cycle Oil with Fuel Stabilizer comes in 3.2 oz bottle, the exact mix for 1 gallon of fuel.

Gander has the oil. Each small bottle will mix a gallon of gas.

Hey Bret,
I saw that too, and double checked their webpage. But the sticker on the motorhead itself says use 24:1. Is that a Tecumseh thing? Also, any thoughts on a higher octane fuel?

I’m not sure what is recommended but stay exactly with what it says. I would make sure you have the correct plug in that unit, that it is properly gapped, and if that doesn’t do it. I would try to run 2 cycle oil that is recommended. I run strikemaster oil, just put a bottle into a gallon of premium. I have also had good luck with Toro snow blower oil which is formulated for use in cold weather. If those two things don’t do it, get a tune up. Once you get it running get that puppy good and hot and warmed up and you should be good.

I highly recommend Amsoil Saber Professional 100:1

Going on my third season using it. Works aswome. Everyone I have heard of including myself could tell the difference the first time out with it. I have a Jiffy 2hp.

I usually mix it 80-90:1 just to err on the side of caution. I have been using it in all my small 2-strokes year round with the same results. With the exception of my chainsaw. No reason. Just havent made that jump yet.

It is also THE most highly recommended oil by Amsoil for this application.

Mike, now that you’ve seen the light with the RED Marcum…maybe we can pry that old Yella out of your hands too.

Dean has an excellent price on a new RED Solo down at Everts.

Just thinking out loud here.

I hear ya. If I needed one I would go staight to Dean for one of those 4-strokes but I will likely get many more years out of my hot-rod Jiffy 2-hp Stealth.

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Mike, now that you’ve seen the light with the RED Marcum…maybe we can pry that old Yella out of your hands too.

Dean has an excellent price on a new RED Solo down at Everts.

Just thinking out loud here.

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If someone wants to buy my 3hp 8″ Stealth, I might relieve Dean of one of his Solos…

Suzuki
Are you mixing one gallon 50:1 or 5 gallons 80:1 for a Jiffy 2hp ?

WeFish

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Suzuki
Are you mixing one gallon 50:1 or 5 gallons 80:1 for a Jiffy 2hp ?

WeFish

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I have been running the Amsoil Sabre at 80:1 for a couple of years now in my Jiffy’s and that is a few thousand holes a year. Jiffy does recommend 3.2 ounces of the synthetic mix to a gallon of gas per factory specs (and those premeasured mixing jugs from Jiffy) although I have been mixing 80:1 Saber and have not had any trouble with ALOT less smoke and better twenty below starts.

We are running the Sabre in three STX pro 2hps, One Model 30 3hp and a Model 30 3hp that came to be some time in the eighties without a single engine problem, ever.

Thanks for the help fellas! I was following the 24:1 sticker on the motor and switching to 40:1 I should see marked improvement. My next move might be to the Sabre.

Now I must go shovel

I treid the 24:1 once just for shirts and grins…it made a bug fogger out of my auger once I got it to start.

I’ve stayed with the 24:1 reccomended mix since the start many years ago. Only 1 new plug that wasn’t really needed, very little smoke, and never a problem starting it.
I had Blue pick it up for me at Cabela’s one day so maybe that’s why it’s been so good to me. He’s got that magic touch?

My current batch is about 90:1 for a gallon. Kinda tough to measure because of the tiny amount of oil. 1.3 ounces per gallon at 100:1. I also premix the mix in a measureing cup with gas before dumping in the can. This stuff is thick and drops right to the bottom of the gas. Needs to be mixed up well at first. I had not heard of Jiffy recommending stronger mix. I may add a little to mine so its closer to 80:1.

The other day I purchased a couple bottles of Jiffy 2stroke Synthetic Blend Engine Oil. 3.2 oz. The label tells to mix with one gallon of fuel. But it doesn’t state what mix ratio you end up with. Anybody know?
And would this mix be safe to use in my motor that has the sticker specifying a 24:1 mix?
It’s been a great machine and I just don’t want to screw it up.
By the way, it’s the only Jiffy brand 2 stroke oil I see on the shelves any more

Jiffy has gone to a 40:1 ratio a couple of years ago. That is the only way that they sell it now. They have added stabilizer into the oil.

My auger is older than a couple years though. So the question remains, is this new mix ratio ok to use when my older auger says to use 24:1?
Sorry if I make myself look a bit ‘thick’. Just want to be sure of things.

I have the Jiffy model 30 3 hp unit and it has always run well and started easy and I have always used the 24:1 ratio. This unit is just shy of 20 years old and still came out of the shed running well this week. I did finally replace the blades, plug and fuel cap last year otherwise I have not had to fix anything.

If you have been running 24:1 and it works well keep doing it. If it is hard starting and the carb is clean then maybe mess with the ratio on an old unit. I find it odd that with all two stroke motors guys seem to be obsessed with running them as lean as they can. I know guys are always asking how far they can adjust their oil pumps on their snowmobiles, and have them still run. If it is to save some money on oil then you are in the wrong sport. This is coming from a guy that has an E-Tec and that oil is $65 a gallon Every time I fill my boat $140 for gas and $65 for oil. Once my warrantee is off I will switch oils, just four years to go.

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If you have been running 24:1 and it works well keep doing it. If it is hard starting and the carb is clean then maybe mess with the ratio on an old unit.

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I think this is about the bets advice going regarding oil ratios. Don’t change anything for the sake of making a change if your auger is running good. You’ve got nothing significant to gain and more to lose if you get a little too lean.

Will do, and thanks to all.

I guess I started this mess. But, I went with 40:1 and premium gas. I used it this weekend and was amazed at how much better it ran/cut. It didn’t bog down, and I started drilling as soon as it started (no warm up time). A week ago this wouldn’t have been an option.
Thanks for all of the advice!

Not a mess. Good discussion.

I contacted Amsoil and received the following:

“Saber Professional can be used at mix ratio as lean as 100:1 regardless of OEM recommended mix ratios. ”

That is how it’s designed. Everyone should do what makes them feel good but this high ratio is a result of this particular products design. It works as advertised and my auger runs far better with it.

What are the other benefits to running this lean?

Dont think of it as so lean. This product is super concentrated. Your getting a lot of matter in this mix so it doesnt compare to other oil ratios.

The leaner the mix the more power it will have. If you run it with no oil it would run better, and have more power than it ever had right up until it seizes. Back in my younger days I used to change the jets in my heavily modded snowmobile to keep the exhaust gas temps at 1250F under full throttle. That was the highest temp I could safely run before I burned a hole in the top of the piston. The only problem was if the ambient temp fell too much I would then be running too lean, and had to be careful until I re-jetted. It was fast though.

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Just like Herb, my Jiffy is about 20 years old. It has drilled a lot of holes at 24:1. Last couple of years with AMSOIL Intercepter that I use in my sled. I put about 6 ozs. in a gallon. Not much smoke at all. Figure a little to much oil is better than not enough. If the plug is oily, use a little less. If it’s white use a little more. If it’s a light black/burn color, just right.

I have done a little more research on this just to make dam sure I wasnt passing along bad information. I have continued to use my auger this year at 90:1. I have also read reports from several others running this oil at 80 to 100:1 in their Jiffy augers and chainsaws. Doesnt matter the age or what your maunual says. If you have an old Jiffy you can run this stuff as advertised and your equipment will run better.

I have ran Amsoil Saber in my augers, weed wacker, leaf blower, basically all of my 2 stroke engines for 5 or 6 years now. I run it at 50:1 just to be on the safe side. No smoke, no oil drip out the muffler, runs and starts like a champ. I bought a new SM with the solo motor this year and Strikemaster recommended running it at 50:1 with synthetic oil.

UPDATE**
Unbelievable. No sooner did I resurect this post to brag about the product then I receive a first hand report from a friend with the first negative experience. Of course I am obligated to pass it along. Buddy with 2 hp Jiffy Stealth just like mine siezed this weekend using Amsoil Sabre Professional at 80:1 No way to absolutely prove it was the oil. Could have just been running lean in very cold air BUT I like to present all pertinent information about a product i am either trying or advocating. This is the first incident I have heard of using this product at advertised mix ratios. Again there is a very good chance it was not oil related but….I just added oil to my gas just in case. BTW he was able to free it up at home and just used it today.