Lost a big fish last week because I had a weed a little to close and it got wrapped around. New to the game but it’s been interesting to say the least.I have been placing them in a circle around my two hole(one hole for the lx5 as I was tired of wrapping up in the transducer with every fish)and from what I have seen they have held fish every time. Many times I would hunt outside the circle and watch fish come and go but when going back to the weeds I found the fish were constant,not always cooperative but always there. Going to start experimenting with different patterns,Ts,Xs,things like that. As far as picking them up on the flasher that has not been a factor as the narrow beam on the lx takes care of that. I think weeds are alot like many of the devices we use out there in that in some situations you know there are going to be effective but in all cases ,as the old man always said “they don’t hurt”. Right now I have nine weeds but as soon as the wife finds out she’s short 50ft. of that good christmas garland and buys more then I,ll have about 20