Media Hype on ice conditions

  • david_scott
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 2946
    #1298182

    Is anyone else getting tired of all the media hype? This is the star tribune, all the news stations, etc…

    I finally made it back out yesterday in the north metro.. to have about 8″ of ice with minimal surface damage from the warm weather. There were 4 wheelers buzzing everywhere, people walking all over on the lake. Does this mean the ice is safe in general? NO, but it is in some, possibly most locations in many areas.

    The recent warm snap did not do as much damage as everyone presumed at many locations. If a person uses caution, there are lots of places where ice fishermen can safely fish using better judgement.

    As for the media… earlier this week Myself and MrKeb were fishing on a Minneapolis lake in the midst of the fog.. standing on 7″ of solid, clear ice.. only a couple people yelled that morning the ice wasnt safe. The night before there were several people yelling from shore, calling 911 saying there are fishermen on the lake.. the game warden checked us in that location a couple times and was very comfortable on the same ice, or SAFE ICE in that situation. There were ice skaters usin the entire surface of the lake.. the lake was like a giant ice rink with clear, solid ice. The ice skaters geting yelled to by onlookers, us ice fishermen getting yelled at, people getting kicked off some of the lakes because many people are calling 911 and reporting people on the ice …. its rediculas! Today, A story is in the star tribune with our picture again, and blind comments on how bad the ice is… well, I want to know which one of them is experienced with ice and went out to drill holes to get actual conditions.. they sure didnt come out and ask when they took the picture.

    All the media hype that ice isnt safe and some people have found themselves in bad situations around the state, mostly as usal, not using any good judgement or common sense… but the media blows it out of proportion so much that people are flooding the emergency lines because people are on the ice???

    I use proper precautions on the ice and I know EXACTLY what I am walking on. I am growing increasingly tired of people calling emergency services when I am just trying to catch a fish mindng my own business, and I can really care less what someone elses opinion is about the ice conditions where I am at that was based solely(sp?) on what the newspaper, or news said on the tv last night.

    Many forums are now flooded.. where is the safe ice, how much ice, etc, etc.. and afraid to go out and drill a few holes and find out themselves.. when they do finally get out, they learn the ice took minimal damage in most locations, and using care, most places are still fishable.

    No guys and gals, the ice is not safe everywhere, it never is. There are plenty of *safe* places to go fishing right now.

    I wish people could reserve emergency calls for emergency situations! A person ice fishing is not an emergency! The person standing on the lake ice fishing really cares less if the person standing on shore thinks its safe, and we really dont want to hear their opinion.

    Go save a whale or something, I dont need saved while fishing unless I run out of bait andd your bringing more!

    hof
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2443
    #512165

    Moores Bait
    Posts: 328
    #512167

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    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #512303

    I second that I was going to take the weekend off but after buying myself a new fish trap friday night had to give it a try…hit the Wabasha area to find no less than 4-5 inches in a spot that is known to be a late freeze area and 7+ inches in many shallow slough we go to for gills…had an awsome day with tons of fish caught had to sort through fish but got plenty of eaters and wow what super today…personally keep the hype up since i fished a spot today where last week was 50+ people and this mornings count.. ..3 yes 3 me, my buddy with me and a old river rat killer the crappies with his basic system spring bobber and old school pole outfishing us like rookies but have to say s long as your smart and know your basics to ice saftey you are just fine just have to use your head

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #512351

    Many people out there may not be as “Smart” as you. Namely the guy who owned the fishouse shown on KARE 11 tonight sinking through the ice on Forest Lake. I am not saying that to be cocky. You know what you are doing. But the fact of the matter is that a lot of people reading these reports may believe that all is good, and march off into trouble. I think it is wise to preach caution. TV and the print media love the sensational side of news. We all know that. The hype I can do without.

    david_scott
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 2946
    #512364

    I hope all read my post as to use extreme caution. I am in no way acting upon courage, or ego.. I know exactly where I am walking, and what I am walking on. I smack the ice every few feet with a millacs chisel until I penetrate far enough to prodce cracks to the bottom of the ice… that also tells me how firm the ice is along with the actual thickness.

    Areas with minor honeycombing on the surface 1/4″ I stay away from unless there is 6″ of good clear ice.. its just not worth taking an unneccessary risk to me. If I cant see cracks with the thickness of the ice, I am chipping away every few feet, I am sweating by the time I drill hole to fish from.

    If you are not familiar with ice, and ice consistencies.. you probably dont belong out there unless you are with an experienced ice fisherman.. and I dont mean a daredevil. Spots that are 12″ deep and less are going to be the worst right now from sun penetration heating up the bottom.

    Using extreme cation a person should have no problem finding a place to fish right now in most areas.. that doesnt mean every lake in all areas.

    The weather is cooling back off.. I expect we will pack on ice as fast as we were before for a while with around 1/2″ a day accumilating under normal weather, and mosr if we get extreme cold again.. It wont be long nd ice conditions will be far less of an issue. It really helps having no snow, and that also helped the ice not melt as much as it could… melting snow = lots of water, and insulated water at that on top of the ice.. that can be a disaster.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #512367

    Dave, your post above shows that you have more experiance than at least 80% of the average population…maybe more. I’m guessing that’s why so many 911 calls ect.

    Quote:


    If you are not familiar with ice, and ice consistencies.. you probably dont belong out


    That sums it up to be sure!

    But to your point of the media coverage…it IS getting old.

    david_scott
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 2946
    #512387

    We at least only made the local paper(star tribune) this time.. Pier Bridge got the *good* national interview last year for the today show

    To make it better, when your on camera, they always edit it to have it only make sense to them, and to make the fisherman ….. well

    beave
    MPLS
    Posts: 163
    #512466

    Right on. A few years back(12?)I was out on Nokomis with 5-6 others fishing. We had people yelling every couple of minutes “GET OFF THE ICE-IT’S NOT SAFE! DID’NT YOU SEE THE NEWS?”, and as if that’s not annoying enough, someone says they are calling the police-the police???? Sure enough about 45 minutes later a park cop shows up-with his speaker and all- and starts yelling through it, telling us we have to GET OFF THE ICE(5++inches). We refuse, he calls for “BACK UP”. We now have 3 cops yelling and threatening us to get off the ice. We keep telling them the ice in this area is plenty safe and there is no LAW prohibiting us from being here. We finaly convince 1 of them (after 1.5 hours) to come on out and look for him-self. After walking him out to where we were fishing, Showing him the holes we cut every few feet to check the ice depth, he agrees it’s OK for us to fish…..But some time during this whole event, one of the local news cameras showed up and filmed for a second or two, (we didnt notice)And when I got home later in the evening I had 20 messages waiting on the machine from friends and family members heckeling me because the MEDIA had made us out to be a band of reckless nomads putting the lives of our police and rescue/firemen in danger by being out on the ice!!! I did not see the newsclip my self- but I sure caught crap because of it.
    Dave, were you with that day???

    david_scott
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 2946
    #512486

    No, I wasnt with you that day.. but had a somewhat similar experience on calhoun out in front of the access area(way out on the bar).. with twice as much ice. He kept yelling over the loud speaker to get off the ice, its not safe.. I kept yelling back for a short period of time *come get me*, and the thickness of the ice the 1st couple times I yelled… I didnt have a loudspeaker to yell back with or I would have been happy to use it!

    He never came got me, never called back up, he eventually left.

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