Aqua-Vu, Vexilar and MarCum

  • scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #1297976

    Two weekends ago I spent the weekend on the ice trying out some of the new ice equipment that you will see on the ice this year. I spent two days getting familiar with the Vexilar FL-20, the Aqua-Vu VPG (Vertical Pixel Graph) and comparing them with the MarCum LX-5. The VPG is not a 3-color flasher but since it is new and getting a lot of marketing attention, I wanted to check it out.

    The Aqua-Vu VPG was a nice concept but that is the last good thing I have to say about it. Upon first examination the case for the unit is nice but getting it to stand up on an uneven surface is tough to say the least. The unit is shaped like a cone that tips over easily. The battery on my unit had a small wood block taped to it to hold the battery in place. After doing some checking, this is how they all come. Well, my tape lasted one day and my battery was moving all over and I had to fix the power connector that is inside the battery box. This is a terrible design.

    As for the function of the unit, well, it functions but not well around any other units. The VPG has a “Noise” button that is supposed to make the unit work around other units, but it does not. Whether it is the Vexilar or the MarCum, both units locked the VPG up and it was worthless. Using the Noise button seemed to limit the gain so bad you get a trailing signal that made it almost impossible to use. When you bring another unit close to the VPG the Auto Range jumps all over and it cannot find bottom. You had to restart the unit to get it to work again.

    One other problem I had was after I left all 3 units outside over night, the next day the VPG heater took 2 minutes to heat up the unit enough where it would work but it was still very slow. In addition, when you put the unit into Ice Mode, the 0-5ft scale is gone and the scale starts at 5ft. I am not sure why, but it would not make a good shallow water unit. I was not impressed with this unit one bit; the design needs a lot of work!

    The Vexilar FL-20 is pretty similar to the FL-18 in my opinion. The unit has a slightly larger screen, which is nice. I also felt the FL-20 was better at tuning out other units when compared to old FL-18. I was able to test both the MarCum and the Vexilar side by side without an issue. The FL-20 still appears to blend LED lights to get their 3 colors, but they are brighter this year and include a dimmer feature so you can turn down the amount of light given off by the display. This should be nice for fishing at night. However, the blended lights still give you that big blurry feel when compared to the MarCum LX-5.

    The Vexilar Fl-20 still seems to be as loud as the FL-18 was. The Fl-20 was by far the loudest of the 3 units. The new flat screen design to the FL-20 is a nice concept but gave off a lot of glare in direct sunlight and made the screen tough to look at without turning out of the sun. The FL-20 was the hardest screen to read in direct sunlight. In addition, the gain still seems to be set to high at “0”. I like to be able to fine-tune the flasher and when you turn the gain to zero, you still get a full bottom reading. This has been the case since I first ran a FL-8.

    The unit still has a lot of plastic in it, but seems to be better built than the previous Fl-18 units. It is still plastic, but seemd to be a little stronger plastic. Maybe they have all changed, I don’t know. A nice padded soft pack would be a good addition to the FL-20, for the price the should include one.

    I am very familiar with the MarCum LX-5, as I have been using this unit for 2 years. I still think it is the best flasher on the Market. The 3 separate LED light colors really seem to separate the unit from the others. The Tru-Color display on the LX-5 is so crisp and clear, the Vexilar FL-20 really didn’t compare. The padded soft pack, and push button controls really stand out as nice features. There is no doubt in my mind it is still the best flasher on the market. I am not going to go through all the feature of the LX-5 because that has been covered plenty.

    I am not expert on flashers and am certainly not an engineer. I know what features I like in a unit, and how I need them to function on the ice. This is what I based my comparisons on. There was not enough ice to give the units a real “day fishing” test, but that will come soon enough.

    jdbruesewitz
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 467
    #503821

    Thanks for the report Scott.
    That is definately some food for thought.

    cade-laufenberg
    Winona,MN/La Crosse, WI
    Posts: 3667
    #503853

    Great report! I really like how you included truthful information about all products, before promoting the product that you use. I really thought the aqua vu thing looked kind of cool, but man, sounds more like a hunk of junk! I hope my aqua vu camera doesn’t turn out like that!
    Thanks,
    Cade

    wade_kuehl
    Northwest Iowa
    Posts: 6167
    #503872

    Nice product review Scott!

    dave-barber
    St Francis, MN
    Posts: 2100
    #503929

    Scott. Thank you for the report. That is exactly what I have been wanting to hear. Not that “Marcum is the best”… but an honest, side by side review of all of them. I was in sportsmans warehouse the other day looking and trying to make up my mind if I really was sure I wanted the Marcum. Though I have already decided on the Marcum LX-5… you have settled my doubts. In fact, I am ordering my LX-5 from Wade tomorrow morning. I have $479.00 (no taxes or shipping) burning a hole in my pocket.

    Hey Wade!!! Prepare for my order sir!!!

    oldbear
    State Center, Iowa
    Posts: 326
    #503990

    I thought it was an honest report. You told the good points & the bad ones of each..Thanks for the informative review.

    wade_kuehl
    Northwest Iowa
    Posts: 6167
    #504011

    Quote:


    In fact, I am ordering my LX-5 from Wade tomorrow morning. I have $479.00 (no taxes or shipping) burning a hole in my pocket.

    Hey Wade!!! Prepare for my order sir!!!


    Thank you Dave! I really appreciate the support we get here at IDA.

    You should have your new LX-5 for the weekend! Now, you just need ice!

    dave-barber
    St Francis, MN
    Posts: 2100
    #504041

    Amen on the ice, brother!!!

    And by the way… to Wade and Jollyannmarine…

    If any of you are looking for some great product… I know you have heard it here before… but I will restate it as many times as it takes to get it through… Wade and Jollyann are the shnnizzzitt !!!!

    bob schroden
    Cold Spring, MN
    Posts: 281
    #504125

    Scott, what is your opinion on Lowrance?
    I have a X-102C, and was thinking of trying it on the ice.
    I am wondering about performance and interference with other flashers.

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #504139

    Using a Lowrance unit with a MarCum or Vexilar on your boat works fairly well. I have run both on the both Vexilar and MarCum in combination with a Lowrance. The IR on the MarCum does the best at tuning out other units, but all 3 can be used in open water. On the ice I think you may run into some Interference issues with the 102, especially on a hard bottom and deep water.

    A couple years ago I did the same testing on the Lowrance Ice unit when it came out. I was not impressed with that unit. The only way it seemed functional was to use it in flasher mode and then you are basically looking at the same thing as the Aqua-Vu VPG unit. In addition with the Lowrance unit, there is going to be some processor delay, as with all their units. I suppose if you can handle fishing with that delay it would be possible. But, there are much better options in my opinion.

    Both MarCum and Vexilar have the right idea with the 3-color flasher, it just depends what your preference when it comes to performance. I have written plenty on the performance of the units and why I chose MarCum. All that is available in the archives on the site. I have not seen another unit that I can say I ever really liked on the ice other than the Clearwater Classic. That was a great unit but had/has major Interference Problems similar to the Aqua-Vu VPG unit.

    blue-fleck
    Dresbach, MN
    Posts: 7872
    #504178

    Quote:


    The battery on my unit had a small wood block taped to it to hold the battery in place.


    Sounds like Red Green found a job at Aqua-Vu…

    It wasn’t duct tape was it Scott?

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #504202

    I just about died when I opened it up to see what was going on. 1/2 x 2 inch piece of wook taped to the end of the battery with clear white tape that lasted one day. I didn’t even bank the unit around, it road in the back of my truck.

    If that block comes lose, or is not taped to the battery, the battery moves all over and will break off the wires where they exit the housing to connect to the charger. Very poor design. There are going to be some very dissapointed people that invest their money in that product.

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