Tungsten, the growing heath concern

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
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    #1359877

    United States Solid Waste and EPA 505-F-11-005 Environmental Protection Agency Emergency Response (5106P) May 2012 1

    Technical Fact Sheet –
    At a Glance
    Hard, steel-gray to tin-white solid.
    Highest melting point among metals and is a good conductor of electricity.
    Typically used in welding, oil-drilling, electrical, and aerospace industries.
    Low solubility in water and high sorption (soil/water distribution) coefficients at low to neutral pH levels.
    Questions are being raised about tungsten’s environmental stability.
    Exposure may cause eye and skin irritation, cough, nausea, diffuse interstitial pulmonary fibrosis, and changes in blood.
    No federal drinking water standard established.
    Exposure limits set by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) and the American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH).
    Treatment methods for tungsten in environmental media currently under development. Methods under investigation involve ice-electrodes, electrokinetic soil remediation, and chemical recovery/soil washing.

    TECHNICAL FACT SHEET– TUNGSTEN
    Tungsten
    May 2012
    Introduction
    This fact sheet, developed by the U. S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Federal Facilities Restoration and Reuse Office (FFRRO), provides a brief summary for tungsten, including: physical and chemical properties; environmental and health impacts; existing federal and state guidelines; detection and treatment methods; and additional sources of information.
    Tungsten was originally considered a metal that remains stable in soil and did not dissolve easily in water. However, it is now a growing concern to EPA and the U. S. Department of Defense (DoD) because recent research indicates that tungsten may not be as stable as was indicated in earlier studies. Furthermore, varying soil properties such as pH may cause tungsten to dissolve and leach into the underlying aquifer (ATSDR 2005). Currently, little information is available about the fate and transport of tungsten in the environment and its effects on human health. Research about tungsten is ongoing and includes health effects and risks, degradation processes, and an inventory of its use in the defense industry as a substitute for lead-based munitions. This fact sheet provides basic information on tungsten to site managers and other field personnel who may be faced with tungsten contamination at cleanup sites.

    Tom Sawvell
    Inactive
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    #1388606

    “its use in the defense industry as a substitute for lead-based munitions”

    I suppose the terrorists and bad guys will complain about being shot with a bullet that may cause cancer in survivors and the Geneva Convention will be altered to include tungsten ammunition as one of the no-no’s.

    Joel Ballweg
    Sauk City, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3295
    #1388615

    I didn’t see one solid fact concerning any health hazards in that info you posted.

    A bunch of “may” this or that but no solid data on anything what so ever.

    Most tungsten that we use is in the solid form. I can’t think of a single use for the average person, other than in the solid form.

    So unless your eating your tungsten jigs instead of feeding them to fish, I really don’t see anything alarming in the information posted here.

    If I were working at a tungsten manufacturing plant, my outlook may be different. But for the average user, the chances of you suffering any detrimental affects are probably so low that they are immeasurable.

    Jeff Bennett
    Lake Puckaway Wi.
    Posts: 1180
    #1388621

    Always good to keep folks up to date on stuff, very interesting. My Gramma always said man will destroy them selves in the world.

    Thanks Brian.

    Gregg Pfeifer
    Fort Atkinson, WI
    Posts: 889
    #1388627

    Anyone ever figure out how to secure a hook to gravel I’ll start throwing stones.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1388628

    Where’s that study on 4oz lead sinkers ruining the environment and killing eagles…

    Mudshark
    LaCrosse WI
    Posts: 2973
    #1388629

    Thanks Brian…
    Makes a guy think twice about messing with the stuff.

    Joel Ballweg
    Sauk City, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3295
    #1388635

    Quote:


    Thanks Brian…
    Makes a guy think twice about messing with the stuff.


    You don’t want to be taking any chances with this stuff. Maybe you should send me all your tungsten jigs. Always best to play it safe concerning these matters!

    Tom Sawvell
    Inactive
    Posts: 9559
    #1388644

    I think most of the concerns are directed at manufacturing where tungsten is used or in the refining process. I read somewhere that most of the tungsten found on planet earth is in the polar regions of Russia and in China’s ice cap area.

    I also read where most products claiming to be tungsten are actually made from powdered tungsten and a super resin. Maybe the powdered or very fine tungsten is where the health concerns arise.

    I haven’t quite jumped on this anti-lead bandwagon and since I don’t use any tungsten lures I don’t see myself getting all whooped up about the stuff. I don’t see tungsten as something a hobby minded person is going to have a lot of on hand. I’ll let someone else worry about it.

    sinister-fishing
    Omaha, Ne for now
    Posts: 293
    #1388648

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    Thanks Brian…
    Makes a guy think twice about messing with the stuff.


    You don’t want to be taking any chances with this stuff. Maybe you should send me all your tungsten jigs. Always best to play it safe concerning these matters!


    x2 Joel

    Mudshark
    LaCrosse WI
    Posts: 2973
    #1388655

    I was not talking about the finished product

    Joel Ballweg
    Sauk City, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3295
    #1388663

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    I was not talking about the finished product


    Its extremely unlikely that you will ever see the unfinished product much less get your hands on it.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1388684

    Quote:


    o unless your eating your tungsten jigs instead of feeding them to fish, I really don’t see anything alarming in the information posted here.


    You feed a fish a jig and get bit off, now what? You have a toxic fish that one day might get eaten, and who knows maybe the eggs will have the slightest metal residue, where after a dozen generations of this constant compounding of this toxic metal only to create robo-fish in 50years. Then they start attacking us humans not allowing us to fish anymore, what do you say then? I’m never using tungsten and am currently making up a glittery poster to go Pickett in front of local sporting goods store to take em off the shelves

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1388689

    Quote:


    Quote:


    o unless your eating your tungsten jigs instead of feeding them to fish, I really don’t see anything alarming in the information posted here.


    You feed a fish a jig and get bit off, now what? You have a toxic fish that one day might get eaten, and who knows maybe the eggs will have the slightest metal residue, where after a dozen generations of this constant compounding of this toxic metal only to create robo-fish in 50years. Then they start attacking us humans not allowing us to fish anymore, what do you say then? I’m never using tungsten and am currently making up a glittery poster to go Pickett in front of local sporting goods store to take em off the shelves


    This will probably be the driving force behind a movement to outlaw tungsten by the eco bird lovers that pushed the banning of lead shot.

    Joel Ballweg
    Sauk City, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3295
    #1388716

    Seriously, of all the things you may worry about as you make your way through life, this one isn’t even on the radar.

    gbfan10
    Hastings, mn
    Posts: 351
    #1388743

    The filament in incandescent light bulbs was tungsten, and billions of those have been discarded over the years.
    (Now, all I have to do is figure out how to turn an old light bulb into a jig head…)

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18629
    #1388747

    Just one more thing added to the “nothing is good for you” list.

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
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    #1388754

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    Seriously, of all the things you may worry about as you make your way through life, this one isn’t even on the radar.


    I like that comment Joel!!! Absolutely

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1388766

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Seriously, of all the things you may worry about as you make your way through life, this one isn’t even on the radar.


    I like that comment Joel!!! Absolutely


    I’m happy to survive the obstacle course of texting teens on the way to buy a tungsten jig.

    scott-k
    Red Wing
    Posts: 539
    #1388780

    Very true on texting teens and driving…you should see those TT’s walk into doors, chairs, walls while texting at school…I always give them a wide angle.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1388790

    I keep telling Brian, I don’t care about all that crap. All I want is a lure that falls fast through the water column even if the difference to lead is just a “blink of the eye”.

    And I don’t use tungsten in open water. That’s just a waste of money.

    ec1
    NULL
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    #1389001

    People don’t realize, but humans are the cancer of the earth.
    And for us to give up our amenities that have been introduced to us… fat chance!

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1389024

    Said the guy on the internet, powered by electricity, in his heated house …

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