Info request: Lake Winnipeg Walleye Trip

  • pasullivan
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    Hi folks – new to site first post. I am just starting to plan a trip to Lake Winnipeg near the mouth of the Red River sometime in mid-March. There will be 3 of us, all experienced walleye ice fishermen from Wisconsin where we primarily fish Lake Winnebago.

    For those of you that have fished this area I am looking for any tips that you may have regarding such a trip. Here are a few questions that come to mind;

    Is a guide critical or is most of the fishing done within 3-4 miles of the river mouth where a group can run/gun with flashers and get on some fish? Are there limited guide services that help you with general starting locations or areas that have been producing recently? Looks like BIG water and with only 3 days to fish I am open to the idea of paying for help if it is required.

    What do you feel is the best area to stay and the best access point with trucks, snowmobiles or 4-wheelers?

    As for timing, is March 17-19 seem OK or would you push it right out to the end of the month given the hard winter. I think ice fishing there closes April 1st.

    Any other useful tips or things you learned from your experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and tight lines all.

    18fisher
    Hastings,MN
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    #1386038

    We went to winnipeg in 2011 without having any knowledge of the lake. We stayed in winnipeg beach and had 3 sleds and 1 atv. sleds are the preffered method of travel up there.

    We fished down by chalet beach and had good success catching big fish….but, thats all we caught. over 4 days and 4 guys we only caught 40 fish. 10 of them being 26″+. The weather was bitter cold -20* and windy.

    We hired a guide but he cancelled on us due to equipment failures on his part and then asked if he could ride on the backs of our sleds. He also tried charging us for “cancelling” on him.

    If we go again we will go with the expectations of catching small numbers of fish, kniowing that when you do catch one its a big one!

    heres a few teaser pics



    pasullivan
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    #1386176

    Thanks 18Fisher for your input. What dates did you fish in 2011, and if I may ask what was the name of the outfitter/guide that you had issues with? Would like to steer clear of that one. Thanks again.

    18fisher
    Hastings,MN
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    #1386195

    We were up mid to late March.

    The guide is really well known up there. Maybe he was just having a bad week or something else was going on. I’d rather not say who because in the end he made it right with us and we got our money back.

    pasullivan
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    #1386242

    Thanks for the input.!

    Mike Stark
    Ely, MN
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    A guide will have a good idea of where fish have been moving that week. There is also some rock/gravel piles or dips and bumps that only people that fish out there open water know about. Hiring a guide the first day would give you a huge head start out there. Weather is always a wild card too. Could be a white out or could be -60 windchills. It’s a huge lake and things change fast out there. You will have a TON of ice to drill through in March. They have been using extensions up there for a while now. Snowmobiles are your best bet up there. But who knows maybe by March all the snow will be gone.

    Have you found lodging yet? There is not much up there and March is crazy busy up there.

    I would check with locals there before you head up to get a report on conditions. Two guides that I know of are Lee Nolden and Jason Hamilton. Both should be able help you out.

    There are some true giants swimming around out there. This is my Dads 30.5″ he caught a few years ago. Guys up there estimated it at around 14lbs. Its still swimming and probably about 16lbs now. SUMO

    Burr
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    #1386529

    Where to fish is not as critical as what is used to fish them up there. There are specific locations that are hot spots and consistent spots, but it’s a big basin and you have a pretty good chance of finding fish by yourselves in the vastness of what is called Lake Winnipeg – without the help of a guide. There will be thousand anglers out there spread out all over, that will give you an idea how far off shore, the depth most are fishing. Hot spots are hard to find, but catching fish is pretty easy without the help of a guide.

    What they use to catch fish is where a guide may help – it’s probably not what you have used in your home area. Live Target, Lipless rattle baits, large spoons, blade baits, Jit-R-Jigs – salties for bait. Run 2 holes, have one line down that aggressively calls them in (Rattle baits, vibration baits), and if they don’t hit the aggressive presentation, switch over to a more subtle presentation in your second hole and finesse them on the hook. I highly recommend running 2 flashers per person.

    You will need extensions, probably will need the 12 inch extension. An 8″ extension might not get through the ice that time of year – it has not in past years often.

    The fish can move a long way overnight. Every day is new start. It took me a long time to learn that. I would figure out the fish, through moving a lot, and drilling lots of holes one day, and think I knew exactly what to do the next day. Next day comes along – and they’re gone. Every day starts a new search to find them.

    It’s not uncommon to catch a fish or two shortly after drilling a new hole – and then really struggle to get another. But move 100-200 feet and you will catch a couple more fish right away again. That’s happened to me often. To catch fish, you simply identify an effective direction, and watch your clock. Fish 15 minutes, then move, fish 15 minutes, move, fish 15 minutes, move. I call it ice trolling – just let your watch tell you when it’s time to move.

    If you camp on a spot – you’ll catch fish, but most likely your numbers will be down.

    While the fishing does get better the later in the year – it really does not matter. You can catch fish up there all winter long. I would never expect to be skunked. A bad day will be 15-20 fish. Good days are 60-70+. But you will work for them, and keep in mind the days are long in March.

    You may have a very hard time finding rooms. South Beach Casino is probably the most popular locations – Feb and March have been fully booked since Christmas. That does not mean there won’t be a cancellation and you might luck into a room. Selkirk might have rooms, there are a few small motels close, but you might end up with a longer commute to the lake. I would consider Pine Falls as a backup location. Your equipment will be safer than staying in Winnipeg, you will be limited to accessing the lake from the east side, or be in for a really long drive in the morning. Don’t plan on taking vehicles onto the ice. You can, but eventually you will be up against a ridge that prevents you from going any further.

    There’s fish all over up there. If you have 3 guys that fish well together, and you are mobile, you’ll find fish. If you are struggling, just walk up to another angler, tell them you are new at Lake Winnipeg fishing, and I’ll be they share some good information with you.

    If all else fails, just look for the IDO group up there. Seems like they are on the ice every time I’m there in March – I’m starting to wonder if they ever go home during the month of March.

    Stick together, being careful means don’t get in a hurry because the cold, rough surface, and thick ice can be hard on equipment. Tie things down on your snowmobile, quad, or whatever you are using – or it will fall off and get run over. Don’t get impatient and drive too fast on the rough ice – I run a tracked quad and normal travel speed is 7-8 mph – it’s just too rough to go any faster (unless you want something to break). If you have a back-up auger – bring it. Lake Winnipeg is hard on augers. Fish big baits, more aggressively than you ever imagined possible. I’ve laughed before when I see a guy tie on a 4″ long 5 of diamonds daredevil – and a few minutes later watch him pull a master angler fish up. Big fish will eat what ever they want to eat, it’s not finicky.

    Not me in the pic – but a true giant from earlier this year.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
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    #1386532

    Nice write up Burr. You just made me want to fish there!

    pasullivan
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    #1386538

    Burr – thanks for all of the helpful information. I just booked one of the last rooms I could find at the Lakeview Resort in Gimli. Looks like a little drive to the Winnipeg Or Chalet Beach areas where folks talk about going off. We will be fishing March 14 – March 17th. For now at least we will be up there but lots of preparation and planning ahead. Thanks again for taking the time to write up some valuable info.
    Sully

    pasullivan
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    #1386545

    Can anyone tell me if the Manitoba requirements for non-residents bringing snowmobiles for lake travel fall under the same rules as trailriding – requiring helmets, a snopass, third party insurance liability of 200k etc?

    Burr
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    #1386820

    Gimli will work. This is what I will say about Chalet beach during any Feb and especially March weekend. It get’s crowded. Lots of people access at Chalet, and the parking can get congested. Sometimes they have a large area on the ice to park – but it still gets really crowded – if I was headed for Chalet beach on a March weekend, I would be at Chalet at LEAST an hour before sunrise, get your vehicle parked, and facing the right way so you drive straight out when you want to leave.

    But I would not put in at Chalet on a March weekend, a couple miles north of there is a place Called Mattlocks. From nobody, to very few get on the lake at Mattlocks. You will NOT be able to drive a pickup onto the ice there – which I never do. I ride my quad on the lake, and park my pickup on dry land. So I would put in at Mattlocks and be fine arriving a half hour before sunrise. Not as crowded.

    Staying in Gimli I would only consider accessing the lake from the west side – it’s too far of a drive to get to the east, or south east access by land. Even if you wanted to fish the east side – which there will be no reason to – ride the snowmobile across.

    If you run a quad with tracks like me – carry extra gas. A snowmobile or quad on wheels should be fine on a full tank for the day. I need some extra gas at times, but keep in mind I move a lot. Some days I will put on 65+ miles in the south basin.

    I have been told by MNR to have a helmet, as others have, but not been ticketed. Wear a helmet. I have not been asked for a snopass – I think that only applies for groomed trails, not public land. I have not been asked for insurance, but you would want to have than anyway I would think. I have it, just never been asked for it.

    It’s been my experience you WILL be checked by the MNR on your trip in March. It’s simple, just be legal, all the time, and don’t worry about it. If a lure is hooked up to a rod, the barbs have to be pinched. The ones in your tackle box don’t need to be pinched. When you realize the MNR is going to check you – believe me, it’s already to late to do anything about it. The MNR is really good about setting up some where when you are right on top of them, and there they are. I’ve never had a problem with them, but I make the effort to always be legal. Don’t get lazy doing what you know needs to be done – keep the trip enjoyable.

    For first timers fishing there – I’ll give you this warning, as I have seen it happen several times before. You are allowed 1 fish over 21 1/2 inches in your 4 fish limit, conservation license. (55 cm or something like that). A 28 inch fish is going to break that 10 lb mark. So if you dream of a 10 lber – and you get it in that 28″ fish and decide to keep it – that means your done. So when you catch that 32″ fish later on that day, or the weekend, you throw it back. That’s easy for me, because I throw most everything back. But it’s not “always” easy for others. Also, as adults, we have to prepare our kids for that situation if it happens. I’ve seen an 11 year old kid, absolutely as excited as he could get with his first ever 10 lb Walleye, 28.5″ – he could hardly stand up he was so excited. There was not question in that kids mind he was keeping his 10 lb’r. Then, yep, you guessed it, 2 hours later he pulls in a 30.5″ eye. He cried when his dad explained to him it had to go back. The kid was suggesting – well my brother can say he caught it – and Dad had to reason with him – “but that would be a lie.” You have to be prepared to catch big fish, because you WILL catch big fish – no doubt – none.

    If you have a 24″ fish on the ice – that’s your one fish over 21 1/2 inch.

    So for the most part, if you are keeping fish, you’re looking for 21″ fish. Those weigh 4 lbs. Bigger fish are for the joy of catching them, and if you get that fish of a lifetime, then it’s take measurements for a replica, or care for it to mount it – and that’s your one. Go back to my other post – if you want to keep that big fish to be mounted, have a 3 foot long board, a garbage bag, a towel, and some duct tape with you to pack it on the ice. The ice is so rough there is no way you can possibly get a frozen fish off the lake on a snowmobile or quad without having it packed, and froze onto a board to protect it. Unprotected, you’ll break all the fins off it before you get to shore.

    You WILL catch big fish, just be prepared for it. Now, I don’t know you from Adam – maybe you know all that – but I’ve been around lots of people that have fished LW for the first time – they are not prepared for that decision making in many cases. It broke my heart to see that 11 year old cry.

    Our club is going to be up there the same weekend. There will be about 150 people from FM Walleyes there that weekend. I’m not sure I will be making the trip, as I’ve got some family issues, sunset years of life things going on. So I am not making any ice fishing plans in advance. Doesn’t mean I won’t be there, just means I won’t commit to anyone until a few hours before I’m rolling out of town. It’s only a 4-5 hour drive for me. And I think the border has a special asterik next to my name I cross that border so much.

    From Mattlocks – head straight out about 3 miles – drill a hole and start there. Move in and out to test depths – if you find a good depth, then move North and South. Just North of Matlocks is a point – not really sharp or anything, but still well defined. If it’s dead straight out from Mattlock – you might want to move north by that point, or you will see lots of people fishing east and south from there too. It’s not completely out of the consideration to just skip all that, head straight out to a little bit south and about 7 miles you will be in front if the Red. It’s actually not real well defined because the Red kind of dumps into a swampy marsh type area and there are lots of little canals that carry water to LW.

    Don’t make the mistake of drilling a hole too close to shore – you can drive out a mile, and still not have any water under the ice. You drill one hole through the ice and into dirt – and your auger is done – it won’t drill another hole if your life depended on it – yep, I’ve done it. Remember I said to bring a spare auger if you have it – and blades.

    Anyway – here’s another. This time it’s me. That morning when I was leaving the motel room I said to myself – I shouldn’t have grabbed this hat. Now just watch, I’ll end up catching a big fish and have this ugly hat in pictures for the rest of my life. Well… 10 lb 10 oz 29.5″

    timmy
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    #1386829

    One note I would add is the 1 over 22″ rule applies to fish in the whole. Once filleted, it does not. I have it in writing from the MNR that you can keep a large walleye, fillet it, and then keep another. Sounds weird but that is the law, per the MNR. I personally verified it with a warden in person. I have no issue whatsoever with filleting some hawgs when the commercial guys take ten million pounds+ annually from the exact same area.

    Before you ask, I do not have a scanner, so I can not scan and post it.

    Go ahead….flame away……

    Burr
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    #1386843

    I thought I edited some of my grammer issues with the above post, but evidently I didn’t apply them right.

    Thought I would add – maybe you understand the vastness of the body of water, because you are close to one of the great lakes. But keep in mind – when people say they are fishing out in front of where the Red dumps into LW – that means they are at the closest – 3 miles out in front of the Red – and with frequency out to 7 miles in front of the red.

    You can load up Navionics mapping disc on your electronics, and see that there is contour. Then you head for the area – and realization sets in that the contour you are looking at on your electronics – is over a 2.5 mile stretch.

    It’s big water, or ice.

    When talking about big fish – I’ll say this. 10 lb’rs are there, there’s a good chance to catch a 10 lb eye. But I feel it’s still rare and you put your time in for an over 30. As good as it is, over 30’s are a whole different challenge than an over 10. Master Angler Eyes are basically over 28. One year, I caught 18 Masters, the next 16 master – none of them were over 30. The next time I went – I caught 2 over 30. Masters – you should get. Over 30 – I still think you view that as a very special fish, even on LW. They are hard to come by. Unless your James Holst. That group has always got an over 30. Their wives are laughing and dancing, making all kinds of racket, hard to believe they even find time to fish they’re so chatty, then they catch another over 30. ya, ya, yadda. lol…

    Get your licence in Winnipeg – name of the place is Pro Am Tackle – owners name is Bobby. Call him. He generally closes at 6 pm – but if you will be going through Winnipeg later than that he will often arrange to meet you at his store so you can get licenses out of the way on the drive up. He will probably have you call him when you are leaving customs – he knows how long it will take you to get to his shop from the time you leave customs. Bobby’s a great guy.

    You should decide if you want cell phone service when you’re in Canada – see what your service provider says.

    Call you credit card companies – let them know you are traveling to Canada. It seems they all turn your card off if you are out of the country, and wait for you to call to verify you have not lost the card.

    I forgot to mention above – it is legal to clean fish on the ice in Manitoba. That seems to work well – clean them on the ice, and you can leave the skin, heads on the ice.

    Well, lets see if we can find another pic now. Here’s Dave with a few 21’s on the ice. This was a couple years ago in March – our last day there most all the snow had melted off the ice, it was really close to over. It’s nice when it’s like that, you can just drive around and stop to fish holes that have already been drilled.

    pasullivan
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    #1386913

    You are my hero Burr Just keep writing as the inspiration hits you. Lots of valuable information for us first timers. Even some of the things most folks wouldn’t think of such as spare blades, cell phone service, credit card pre-calls etc. All good stuff. We are packing extra augers, spark plugs – and tools to change them, vexilars you name it. Can’t prepare enough for something like this. Thanks again for all of your experience and insights!

    Bagobum

    Burr
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    #1387699

    I don’t have much more to say, but here’s a couple more pics. On the one you can see the Lipless crank I was fising with. That fish is a 28 that most likely goes over 10 – didn’t weigh it. The other is a true monster – over 14. I’ve only been close to a couple that big over the years.

    pasullivan
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    #1387700

    Tro a couple dozen 4-6 pounders my way over 4 days of fishing and i’ll be whistlin dixey. Having grown up on and fished Sturgeon Bay and Bays de Noc for several decades i have caught my share of biggins. Just looking for somewhere new to go with a few friends and have some fun. Let me know if you end up going with your group that weekend perhaps we can dance a jig together out on the ice one day lol.

    kye1020
    Fargo ND
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    #1387763

    Just to add a few points. Like mentioned before. LW is a huge body of water. Be prepared. Structure is pretty much not existant up there. One thing to try is fish pressure ridges. I have caught my biggest fish on LW right around pressure ridges.

    LW is a “stained water” lake. If you want to fish by the mouth. That usually means 3+ miles at least out from it. If you can find the transition point from the stained water to clearer water you will have beeter luck. Water clarity/pressure ridges is what I call LW structure.

    The idea of being mobile and drilling holes can not be stressed enough. Move, Drill, Move, Drill…and move some more. you will have way more success this way.

    Alcohal…..NOT LEAGAL on any Manitoba waters. Leave it in the truck or at the room! You will get ticketed and they are strict on alcohal violations of any sort.

    Like mentioned before. Your first fish might be a 28″ and you may think its “the one”….measure it. Take lots of pictures and release it. The opportunity to catch a bigger one is very good. Replicas are GREAT. TAKE LOTS OF PICTURES. The coloring of these walleyes are something you wont see again outside of LW. If it was dark, you’d think they would glow. they are something else.

    It is a trip you will do year after year from here on out. It is a TRUE world class fishery.

    Calvin Svihel
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    #1387773

    This post should be pinned to the top of the Ice Forum every year. Lots of great information mentioned. I have had the privilege to witness some huge fish caught by our group every year. Be prepared for anything on LW, I have fished it the last 4 winters and each year it gets better and better. Our group gets bigger and bigger, makes the trip more fun.
    I have fished out of Gimili clear down the West side of the lake, never the east side as we have always found fish. Moving is the key to finding fish, structure less bottom means these fish are always roaming, sometimes moving 2 miles over night like mentioned earlier.
    MNR is always around keep that in mind, even in blizzard like conditions. Bring 2 of everything like mentioned before even GPS. Extensions are necessary 12″ or bigger. 10″ holes are nice but a lot of work to drill. I also recommend clearing the hole at least three times when drilling, DO NOT let the shavings bind up in the hole or you will end up with a stuck drill and never get it out. So drill a little bit, lift auger to clear shavings, drill some more, then clean, drill, clean, then finally you should break through. You will notice at the end of the day how sore you are from drilling, its a good pain when you reel up those big Greenbacks.

    Any questions feel free to holler back as well.

    Burr
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    #1388009

    I’ll know more by next week, but the LW discussion is now mentioning 18″ extensions. I’ll know what it is after the weekend.

    If you’ve ever stuck an auger, you know. If not – any time the ice dust covers the flighting – clear the auger. You don’t want to stick an auger in the thick ice.

    timmy
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    #1388201

    Quote:


    If you’ve ever stuck an auger, you know. If not – any time the ice dust covers the flighting – clear the auger. You don’t want to stick an auger in the thick ice.


    Been there and hated it.

    Clear you auger when the cops cover the flights! EVERY TIME!

    pasullivan
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    #1389196

    Burr – any updates on the fishing / ice deptjs and extension required? I have a 12″ ext for a 3hpjif 10″ i figure im good up to about 46-48″ of ice max. Jiffy didnt offer anything other than the 6/12 option ext. May have to have a machine shop custom make an 18.

    Any reports? Been watching Lee Noldens facebook page for LW and it seems awefully quiet and unupdated for some time now.

    I did speak with a few guides up there and they were all booked. Looks like it’ll be a do-it-yourself which is fine…..i’ll pack the binoculars LoL!

    Tbone
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    #1668867

    Just found this thread. Does anyone have any information on boat landings on Winnipeg? It sounds like this is gaining popularity and I’m wondering if there’s enough room for parking with a truck and trailer in March.

    Cameron white
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    #1668947

    Just found this thread. Does anyone have any information on boat landings on Winnipeg? It sounds like this is gaining popularity and I’m wondering if there’s enough room for parking with a truck and trailer in March.

    In march there are hundreds of trucks/trailers out. All depends what side of the lake your staying on. Thefts are up as well, so lock your gear.

    Tbone
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    #1668983

    We’re staying in Selkirk so I’m open to suggestions as to which landings you’d recommend. Thanks in advance.

    Cameron white
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    #1669237

    We’re staying in Selkirk so I’m open to suggestions as to which landings you’d recommend. Thanks in advance.

    You can go either side. There are now four launches on the east side the RM opened to take pressure off balsom. On the west side, chalet is still out, warner is barely useable. Guys are getting on the road north of warner called Ralph st. right in matlock too at the beach.

    Tbone
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    #1669262

    Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it.

    Brandon C.
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    #1669385

    Sounds like RM opened up Warner access

    adubs11
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    #1750598

    I just got back from my second trip to LW, and it did not disappoint. We decided to go guided again this year. Its not necessary IMO but I wanted to be on the bite from the time we got there until we left, which we were. Literally 30 seconds into our trip my buddy iced a 32″ monster and that was the start to a very special couple of days. Our final count had 5 fish over 30″, with another 20 fish between 27′ and 28.5. The 27’s were by far the most common size fish we caught. This is a great thread with a ton of great information. The best advice I can give is GO, JUST GO! This bite wont last forever just like the red lake crappie bite. We did release all of our big fish and didn’t keep anything other than “eater” size fish to eat. The quantity of big walleyes is simply amazing. We caught two 30″s, two 28.5″s, a 27″, and lost two other big fish in a spot out of two holes no bigger than a pickup truck in 15 minutes during the middle of the day!

    have fun and take good pics!

    Aaron

    adubs11
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    #1750599

    couple of pics…

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