IDO TV – Episode 7 Lake Francis Case, SD Walleye

  • In-Depth Webstaff
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    #1359514

    Video Details: Season 8 – Episode 7. Ice Fishing. Walleye. With Minnesota and Wisconsin enduring yet another round of frigid temps the In-Depth Outdoors crew of host, James Holst, and IDO Pro Staffer Will Roseberg, head west to Lake Francis Case on the Missouri River in an attempt to get in behind the mass of arctic air.

    To watch Season 8 – Episode 7, click on the video player above OR use this direct link >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9abl1F3U8Eo

    Don’t forget to set those DVRs or tune in next Sunday at 8AM on FSN to catch the show!

    vikefanmn77
    Northfield,MN
    Posts: 1493
    #1376987

    James- You really are a fantastic television personality. Really enjoy what you guys are doing. Keep it up!

    scmelik
    South Dakota
    Posts: 238
    #1377000

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    Video Details: Season 8 – Episode 7. Ice Fishing. Walleye. With Minnesota and Wisconsin enduring yet another round of frigid temps the In-Depth Outdoors crew of host, James Holst, and IDO Pro Staffer Will Roseberg, head west to Lake Francis Case on the Missouri River in an attempt to get in behind the mass of arctic air.

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    To watch Season 8 – Episode 7, click on the video player above OR use this direct link >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9abl1F3U8Eo

    Don’t forget to set those DVRs or tune in next Sunday at 8AM on FSN to catch the show!


    unique show, you don’t see to many people heading to that area to film tv shows. Great job guys

    IceAsylum
    Wisconsin Dells WI
    Posts: 956
    #1377003

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    James- You really are a fantastic television personality. Really enjoy what you guys are doing. Keep it up!


    I really agree. After being laid up in bed with a high fever it was great to at least be able to watch an ontime bite and not as the next show showing lead core trolling in the summer. Thanks for making that extra effort in not so perfect conditions.

    Kind of seems like a dream job to make these shows but when you look at the conditions these guys go thru and the time away from home its a hard job. Thanks guys your efforts are appreciated.

    Terry Heese
    Posts: 168
    #1377007

    Great Video!

    You might want to clarify the comments made about “Party” fishing in SD. Below is what the 2014 SD Fishing Handbook states. The 2013 Handbook basically said the samething but in different words.

    COMBINED LIMITS (BOATS ONLY)
    South Dakota law allows parties
    fishing together in one boat to work in combination to catch and keep their aggregate daily limit of fish. At no time may they exceed their combined limit of fish in the boat.

    Anglers fishing from shore, on ice, or using spearing/archery equipment must each take their respective limit of fish and at no time may they
    pursue a combined daily limit for a group.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1377016

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    Great Video!

    You might want to clarify the comments made about “Party” fishing in SD. Below is what the 2014 SD Fishing Handbook states. The 2013 Handbook basically said the samething but in different words.

    COMBINED LIMITS (BOATS ONLY)

    South Dakota law allows parties

    fishing together in one boat to work in combination to catch and keep their aggregate daily limit of fish. At no time may they exceed their combined limit of fish in the boat.

    Anglers fishing from shore, on ice, or using spearing/archery equipment must each take their respective limit of fish and at no time may they

    pursue a combined daily limit for a group.


    There’s not much we can do to retract things now unless someone knows how to “un-air” the broadcast of a TV episode.

    As I also said in that same segment “before you come here be sure to pick up a copy of the Game and Fish regs” so you’re up on the rules. While we go to great lengths to make sure our info is accurate at the end of the day people are responsible for knowing the latest regs in place. Since the filming of this episode things have changed.

    For what its worth…

    On the day this show was filmed the crew on the ice talked with the local CO by cell phone on three separate occasions to make sure all laws were being followed. If you look at 2013 regs on page 23, this show was filmed on 12/31/13, there’s absolutely no mention of party fishing being an issue. Turn the calendar to 2014 and look in the 2014 rule book and on page 23 that you cited there’s clearly been an addition covering it.

    Our discussions with the CO only addressed what was legal when we were fishing and not what was going to be changed in the coming year. If we have to start worrying about which regs will change in the future while we’re filming shows I think my head would explode.

    prospector
    Wyoming
    Posts: 118
    #1377033

    I loved how James was happy with just one fish on a “new” body of water! I can relate so much to that. there is nothing like doing the research and being rewarded with success, no matter how small.
    Getting home to the wives on New Year’s eve was not cool. I was fishing that night away from my family! My wife is still rubbing it in. You guys are killing me! I did tell her she was welcome to come next year. After seeing you two Romeos, I will be staying home from now on.
    One more thing… James is a great guy, why else would he let his fishing partners spank him on T.V. every week?
    Keep it up guys! You are great!!!

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1377038

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    Getting home to the wives on New Year’s eve was not cool. I was fishing that night away from my family! My wife is still rubbing it in. You guys are killing me! I did tell her she was welcome to come next year. After seeing you two Romeos, I will be staying home from now on.


    Well, that was the plan. We had things timed so we would arrive home before the stroke of midnight. A blown tire on the snowmobile trailer on HWY 60 out of Windom, MN changed the plan dramatically. Currently my name around the house is “mud” until the wife tells me otherwise.

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    One more thing… James is a great guy, why else would he let his fishing partners spank him on T.V. every week?

    Keep it up guys! You are great!!!


    Spanking? There’s no spanking on In-Depth Outdoors…

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #1377046

    Think I know the answer to this but even if you didnt want to keep any fish in that area you still had to if you caught them? Basically catch your fish limit and go home? A pool 2 (catch and release) guys nightmare.

    Always a good show guys.

    Terry Heese
    Posts: 168
    #1377048

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    Great Video!

    On the day this show was filmed the crew on the ice talked with the local CO by cell phone on three separate occasions to make sure all laws were being followed. If you look at 2013 regs on page 23, this show was filmed on 12/31/13, there’s absolutely no mention of party fishing being an issue. Turn the calendar to 2014 and look in the 2014 rule book and on page 23 that you cited there’s clearly been an addition covering it.

    Our discussions with the CO only addressed what was legal when we were fishing and not what was going to be changed in the coming year.



    The only reason I brought it up was so that someone else didn’t get the wrong info. Obviously if a CO said it was ok, then I would take their word for it too.

    My copy of the 2013 handbook on page 22 states:

    Limits, Daily

    The number of fish that may be taken from midnight

    to midnight. A person may possess no more than one day’s limit of fish while on the water or ice or actively engaged in fishing. With the exception of Lake Oahe, when fishing multiple waters in a day,cumulative harvest of a species may not exceed the standard statewide daily limit.

    NOTE:

    Fish caught by groups of anglers are

    typically kept together in live wells or on the

    same stringer and as a result, some anglers pursue

    a combined daily limit for their group. State law

    provides that anglers must abide by the daily

    limits established by the Game, Fish and Parks

    Commission and the Department of Game, Fish

    and Parks cannot authorize an angler to exceed his/

    her daily limit in the course of obtaining a combined

    limit for a group of anglers. The Department does

    not require members of angling parties to keep their

    individual limits separated from other members

    of an angling party and encourages anglers to

    practice reasonable restraint in the pursuit of the

    daily limits for members of a group.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1377051

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    Think I know the answer to this but even if you didnt want to keep any fish in that area you still had to if you caught them? Basically catch your fish limit and go home? A pool 2 (catch and release) guys nightmare.

    Always a good show guys.


    In the first spot we fished, yes, the fish caught had to be kept because of the depths fished. It is an unusual rule but one that makes sense given the circumstances. That’s why we moved further north up into Brule Co. where the river isn’t as deep and the fish can be caught in shallower water which makes a successful release possible.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
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    Great Video!

    On the day this show was filmed the crew on the ice talked with the local CO by cell phone on three separate occasions to make sure all laws were being followed. If you look at 2013 regs on page 23, this show was filmed on 12/31/13, there’s absolutely no mention of party fishing being an issue. Turn the calendar to 2014 and look in the 2014 rule book and on page 23 that you cited there’s clearly been an addition covering it.

    Our discussions with the CO only addressed what was legal when we were fishing and not what was going to be changed in the coming year.


    The only reason I brought it up was so that someone else didn’t get the wrong info. Obviously if a CO said it was ok, then I would take their word for it too.


    My copy of the 2013 handbook on page 22 states:

    Limits, Daily

    The number of fish that may be taken from midnight

    to midnight. A person may possess no more than one day’s limit of fish while on the water or ice or actively engaged in fishing. With the exception of Lake Oahe, when fishing multiple waters in a day,cumulative harvest of a species may not exceed the standard statewide daily limit.

    NOTE:

    Fish caught by groups of anglers are

    typically kept together in live wells or on the

    same stringer and as a result, some anglers pursue

    a combined daily limit for their group. State law

    provides that anglers must abide by the daily

    limits established by the Game, Fish and Parks

    Commission and the Department of Game, Fish

    and Parks cannot authorize an angler to exceed his/

    her daily limit in the course of obtaining a combined

    limit for a group of anglers. The Department does

    not require members of angling parties to keep their

    individual limits separated from other members

    of an angling party and encourages anglers to

    practice reasonable restraint in the pursuit of the

    daily limits for members of a group.


    After a bunch of additional reading I think we were pointed in the right direction by the CO.

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    …encourages anglers to practice reasonable restraint in the pursuit of the daily limits for members of a group.


    I read it as you can “party fish” but they ask you to use restraint when doing so. I have no idea what determines “reasonable.” [SIGH]

    And then there’s this…

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    the Department of Game, Fish and Parks cannot authorize an angler to exceed his/her daily limit in the course of obtaining a combined limit for a group of anglers.


    I read this to mean an angler can fish as part of a group but legal limits for all parties stay the same. Meaning just because a party of two, for example, fished together with two licenses and could legally keep two limits if one angler caught them all and contributed all fish to the group catch that one angler couldn’t take them all home.

    One thing I do know, I didn’t contribute to Will’s catch. Will didn’t contribute to mine. I caught my 4. He caught his 3. So we didn’t party fish according to SD’s 2013 or 2014 rules. We never kept another fish after leaving spot #1.

    When talking with the CO we asked how we needed to go about things to fish area #1 and move to area #2 and still be legal to fish both locations. We were told to leave an open fish in our limits and all was good. I definitely didn’t want to put out any incorrect info which is why we bombarded the CO with a series of calls to try and make sure we had a clear understanding of how the regs in the area worked.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1377075

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    The only reason I brought it up was so that someone else didn’t get the wrong info. Obviously if a CO said it was ok, then I would take their word for it too.


    I want to point out that I appreciate you and everyone else that has pointed this out. I dearly want our show to be as accurate as possible which is why we spend so much effort trying to get the straight scoop from local CO’s. I do believe the CO did give us accurate info pertaining to 2013 but it would have been nice to know that things were about to change so we could have reflected that in the show.

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1377076

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    When talking with the CO we asked how we needed to go about things to fish area #1 and move to area #2 and still be legal to fish both locations. We were told to leave an open fish in our limits and all was good.


    Let me start this off by saying I’m not criticizing anything from the show. Just sharing my interpretation of the rules as an out-of-stater.

    From what I got out of the 2013 rule:
    You can fish in a group (2 or more people) and pile your fish together, BUT… you can only contribute your limit to the pile. So if there are four of you and the limit is four each, you can have a pile of 16 fish but each member can only throw 4 fish in the pile. Three guys cant throw three fish in and the fourth throw in 7.

    But that wasn’t the case here since James only kept 4 fish.

    Now, for the CO conversation. Think back on it, did he say leave an open fish in your “limits” or “limit”?

    From what I am getting out of the regulation, James was fishing while already possessing a limit of walleye. Not sure if that is illegal or not, may not be on spot 2.

    Anyhow, great show and it was fun to learn about the funky rules for that body of water. I can only hope our new lake here doesn’t end up like that. Supposed to be 68′ deep and have walleye, pretty much just a big slough of a lake.

    hgbaitco
    Posts: 3
    #1377080

    James I have to admit you are an awesome fisherman and know what your talking about when it comes to catching walleyes. I would like to talk to you on Facebook my name is Grant Sommerhauser

    James Holst
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    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1377094

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    James I have to admit you are an awesome fisherman and know what your talking about when it comes to catching walleyes. I would like to talk to you on Facebook my name is Grant Sommerhauser


    Hey Grant

    Thanks for dropping in and saying hi. I don’t spend much time on Facebook so if you want to chat shoot me a PM here or an email.

    castle-rock-clown
    Posts: 2596
    #1377221

    James said his name is mud…I think that’s code for the perch have moved onto the mudflats searching for worms and other insects.

    vikefanmn77
    Northfield,MN
    Posts: 1493
    #1377225

    So, hypothetically, if one was to catch four 6 inch walleyes right off the bat, then that’s it…he’s done?! Am I getting that right?

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1377232

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    So, hypothetically, if one was to catch four 6 inch walleyes right off the bat, then that’s it…he’s done?! Am I getting that right?


    Correct. The fish tend to run 14″ – 21″ so most fish caught are of good eating size. That said, you could drop on a school of dinks. I’d think larger baits would eliminate most of them along with using your electronics to keep baits away from smaller returns.

    James Holst
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    SE Minnesota
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    James said his name is mud…I think that’s code for the perch have moved onto the mudflats searching for worms and other insects.


    I see where you’re going with this but in this case.. there’s no code. I have a great wife. The best in my opinion. But since I missed New Years Eve and will miss her birthday later in the week on the 10th I’ve been forced to come up with a plan to redeem myself a bit. I found a way to lay hands on two tickets to the Wild game on Saturday… in the FSN executive suite. She likes hockey so that should start to win me back into her good graces. Combine that with a babysitter, an overnight stay in a downtown hotel and a good meal or two and with some luck I should be back out of the doghouse in time to leave town again next Monday and start the whole process over again.

    Andy Fiolka
    Boise, Idaho
    Posts: 543
    #1377239

    (A whip cracks loudly in the background)

    Only kidding buddy. Gotta keep the wives happy for sure

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1377242

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    (A whip cracks loudly in the background)

    Only kidding buddy. Gotta keep the wives happy for sure


    Joel and I have a saying that we share with each other over and over that guides us as we try and put out a show each week… “a happy wife, a happy life.”

    We both go to the ends of the earth to make sure they stay… happy. Without them in our corners everything we’re doing would come to a halt in an instant.

    So.. if you guys want to help keep the show going maybe I should post mailing addresses for the pro staffer’s so people can send flowers, chocolates and cards…

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #1377264

    Maybe a wives show James. Valentines day is coming up. Little friendly competition on the lake might be fun to watch.

    youngfry
    Northeast Iowa
    Posts: 629
    #1377307

    Couldn’t agree more. My wife and I have been married for 5 1/2 years now and the lessons are certainly still coming for me. Starting to figure some things out though:

    1. Keep the time you are coming home vague…

    2. Stop trying to understand why they are upset. When it comes to woman, man logic does not apply.

    3. Good communication… My wife appreciates knowing the days I plan on fishing ahead of time to a certain degree rather than the last minute, spur of the moment trips.

    Those are just a couple things that have worked for me! I still have a lot to learn though….

    James, sounds like you have the wooing down! Keep up the good work guys. I like Mike’s idea, wife competition show!

    vikefanmn77
    Northfield,MN
    Posts: 1493
    #1377329

    Told my wife on the second date…two things you will never do #1 Get in the way of fising. #2 Get in the way of hunting. Will be married 14 years in April!

    castle-rock-clown
    Posts: 2596
    #1377374

    So here’s the deal, when I met my girlfriend I told her on our second date I have two rules, one was to follow instructions, and two was always look beautiful. I had to ammend that while on the motorcycle adding “shut up and hang on.” Funny thing is this is the longest relationship I’ve ever been in…and also the smoothest.

    IceAsylum
    Wisconsin Dells WI
    Posts: 956
    #1377386

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    James said his name is mud…I think that’s code for the perch have moved onto the mudflats searching for worms and other insects.


    I see where you’re going with this but in this case.. there’s no code. I have a great wife. The best in my opinion. But since I missed New Years Eve and will miss her birthday later in the week on the 10th I’ve been forced to come up with a plan to redeem myself a bit. I found a way to lay hands on two tickets to the Wild game on Saturday… in the FSN executive suite. She likes hockey so that should start to win me back into her good graces. Combine that with a babysitter, an overnight stay in a downtown hotel and a good meal or two and with some luck I should be back out of the doghouse in time to leave town again next Monday and start the whole process over again.


    Wow glad my wife doesn’t read this. Your setting the bar kinda high.

    Must say though for a guy that has a schedule worse than a over the road truck driver, glad to hear you get some weekend time with the wife. A good wife is hard to find and I’m glad the second time around I found one.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13661
    #1377388

    I feel for you guys that waited for the second date. Procrastination is NOT a proper way to start things out.
    1st date – By her time keeping, I was supposedly late. “I Fish, I Hunt, & I Trap – Those are my priorities in life, not in any particular order. So, do you still want go out?”
    6 years later on a phone call, she asked me to marry her. She checked my calender to make sure I had no tournaments, hunting seasons were closed, Trapping seasons were closed, and it wasn’t in the “prep” time for getting ready for any particular season. Been married to her for over 21 years + all the years dating. When I go fishing or hunting she simply asks “Are you coming home?” I LOVE MY LIFE…I MEAN WIFE

    btw James, I thought the explanation of the shelf edge once you relocated was excellent. A lot of great info that can be applied to the Mississippi or any other river when searching for new spots

    chomps
    Sioux City IA
    Posts: 3974
    #1377428

    Great show guys, been wanting to get out there ice fishing for many years. As you came down that long hill to enter the State Park, do you remember the Ranger’s hut? The flood three years back the water came up to that shack. I head over there 2-3 times per year and it seems the size of fish is getting better. Since the ice On Mille Lacs prevented us form our annual Opener trip, we went to Francis Case, Platte Creek and had an awesome time. The largest was 26″ and so many 18-19″ers it wasn’t funny, plus the smallies are getting bigger also. No catch/keep rules in the Spring (comes along in July when fish go deep). I’ve attached a summer time photo so you all will feel a little warmer, and this was taken south of the Platte Creek bay.

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