What is this ?

  • Dave Koonce
    Moderator
    Prairie du Chien Wi.
    Posts: 6946
    #1304605

    This was sent to me by my nephew. He has been catching them while out ice fishing today

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18537
    #1125588

    Possibly BK’s next secret cat bait if he gets ahold of your nephew. Ask me how I know……

    Dave Koonce
    Moderator
    Prairie du Chien Wi.
    Posts: 6946
    #1125590

    Quote:


    bait


    LOL

    vikefanmn77
    Northfield,MN
    Posts: 1493
    #1125593

    Looks like an emerald shiner.

    stillwaiting
    rochester mn
    Posts: 74
    #1125602

    That’s what I was thinking

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1125605

    judging by these photos , I’d say you guys are correct.

    greg-vandemark
    Wabasha Mn
    Posts: 1096
    #1125606

    Have to agree with above would be nice to see the tail. Here is an emerald shiner.

    mower
    Wisconsin, Outagamie
    Posts: 515
    #1125607

    Beer & bait yum

    mower
    Wisconsin, Outagamie
    Posts: 515
    #1125609

    Depending on there size, I would geuss about $1.00 – $6.00 a dozen.

    Dave Koonce
    Moderator
    Prairie du Chien Wi.
    Posts: 6946
    #1125611

    Thanks you guys !!!!

    Always entertaining and always educating !!

    flatlandfowler
    Posts: 83
    #1125622

    Not knowing where this is at, or what kind of water body it is, there are 3 legitimate possibilities. First, the emerald shiners mouth is positioned nearly at the apex of the snout, this individuals mouth is too far under slung to be an emerald. The dorsal and caudal fins are covered and the dorsal scales can not be seen here so many of the other ID keys are missing in the picture. Therefore, based on existing keys available in the picture it is possibly a spotfin shiner (will have a dark spot between 3rd and 4th dorsal fin rays, near the fin margin and on the tail side of dorsal fin). It’s possibly the spottail shiner which has no dorsal spot but a spot between the caudal fin and caudal peduncle (tail meat), or finally it is possibly a bluntnose minnow, which also has a spot at the caudal peduncle but typically has a more definitive dark lateral line that extends through the eye to the nose. If you can get a picture of the whole specimen with as many of the fins extended as possibly, you will have a much easier time ID them. Hope this helps

    zekoonce
    West Salem, WI
    Posts: 43
    #1125640

    Lake neshonoc in west Salem wi. It looks just like the pic of an emerald shiner. Stupid little things. How you even hook somthing that small is beyond me.

    outdoors4life
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 1500
    #1125665

    Quote:


    Not knowing where this is at, or what kind of water body it is, there are 3 legitimate possibilities. First, the emerald shiners mouth is positioned nearly at the apex of the snout, this individuals mouth is too far under slung to be an emerald. The dorsal and caudal fins are covered and the dorsal scales can not be seen here so many of the other ID keys are missing in the picture. Therefore, based on existing keys available in the picture it is possibly a spotfin shiner (will have a dark spot between 3rd and 4th dorsal fin rays, near the fin margin and on the tail side of dorsal fin). It’s possibly the spottail shiner which has no dorsal spot but a spot between the caudal fin and caudal peduncle (tail meat), or finally it is possibly a bluntnose minnow, which also has a spot at the caudal peduncle but typically has a more definitive dark lateral line that extends through the eye to the nose. If you can get a picture of the whole specimen with as many of the fins extended as possibly, you will have a much easier time ID them. Hope this helps


    Thanks you saved me a ton of typing!

    Not right at all for an emerald. Spotfin or spottail are two good possibilities for that area.

    If you are not used to ID on Micros it is a challenge even with really good photos.

    flatlandfowler where are you from?

    muskychaser
    Prescott, Wi
    Posts: 372
    #1125676

    Spottail shiner is my educated guess!

    river rat randy
    Hager City WI
    Posts: 1736
    #1125696

    Quote:


    Have to agree with above would be nice to see the tail. Here is an emerald shiner. […Vandy you get that one on a super doo. …rrr

    fieds
    ottertail county
    Posts: 128
    #1125735

    that’s what’s called a wall’eye rib’eye

    flatlandfowler
    Posts: 83
    #1125738

    Quote:


    If you are not used to ID on Micros it is a challenge even with really good photos.

    flatlandfowler where are you from?


    Agreed. Especially when u start comparing species of Cyprinidae using photos. There are many of these species that appear extremely similar (for example sand shiners and mimic shiners are essentially identical in exterior appearance with the exception of the number of anal fin rays). These ID issues are further compounded when comparing juvenile versus adult specimens. I spent two years identifying fish species from 21 rivers and streams for my thesis research, and even at the end there were times I had to stop and really analyze some specimens to ensure proper identification.

    O4L – PM Sent

    mower
    Wisconsin, Outagamie
    Posts: 515
    #1125921

    I still say $1.00 and up a dozen.

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