James HolstKeymaster SE MinnesotaPosts: 18926 December 27, 2012 at 4:29 am #1124239 Here’s a video showing them in action along with a link to previous discussions on them. I’ve used them… the darn things work when other methods of presentation go cold. http://www.idofishing.com/videos/viewvid.php/Number/946591/finesse-techniques-for-heavily-pressured-crappies