Do flipovers need your Name & Address posted?

  • JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17876
    #1304406

    I’ve always had my Name & Adress posted in the front pocket of my flip over’s zipper door, is this still required? or only for shacks left on the lake over night?

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1121175

    if you leave it unattended, yes.

    timschmitz
    Waconia MN
    Posts: 1652
    #1121176

    Only if you’re from Wisconsin… So I know who to chuck snowballs at

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1121177

    Page 69 of the Minnesota regs:

    Shelters (fish houses and dark houses)

    The following regulations apply to all shelters used on all Minnesota

    waters, unless otherwise noted elsewhere in this booklet.

    • All shelters placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the

    (1) complete name and address, (2) driver’s license number, or (3) the

    nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly

    and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least

    2 inches in height.

    • A shelter may not be left unattended anytime between midnight and

    one hour prior to sunrise unless the shelter is licensed.

    Note: The Dept. of Public Safety–DVS requires trailers used to haul fish

    houses or dark houses and enclosed trailers or recreational trailers used

    for fishing to be registered. See your local Deputy Registrar for trailer

    registration

    Minnesota Regs

    -J.

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1121180

    Quote:


    Page 69 of the Minnesota regs:

    Shelters (fish houses and dark houses)
    The following regulations apply to all shelters used on all Minnesota
    waters, unless otherwise noted elsewhere in this booklet.
    • All shelters placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the
    (1) complete name and address, (2) driver’s license number, or (3) the
    nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly
    and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least
    2 inches in height.
    • A shelter may not be left unattended anytime between midnight and
    one hour prior to sunrise unless the shelter is licensed.
    Note: The Dept. of Public Safety–DVS requires trailers used to haul fish
    houses or dark houses and enclosed trailers or recreational trailers used
    for fishing to be registered. See your local Deputy Registrar for trailer
    registration

    Minnesota Regs

    -J.


    A flipover is not considered a shelter in those regs. Those regs are for permanent fish houses.

    dandorn
    M.I.N.N.E.S.O.T.A.
    Posts: 3207
    #1121184

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Page 69 of the Minnesota regs:

    Shelters (fish houses and dark houses)
    The following regulations apply to all shelters used on all Minnesota
    waters, unless otherwise noted elsewhere in this booklet.
    • All shelters placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the
    (1) complete name and address, (2) driver’s license number, or (3) the
    nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly
    and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least
    2 inches in height.
    • A shelter may not be left unattended anytime between midnight and
    one hour prior to sunrise unless the shelter is licensed.
    Note: The Dept. of Public Safety–DVS requires trailers used to haul fish
    houses or dark houses and enclosed trailers or recreational trailers used
    for fishing to be registered. See your local Deputy Registrar for trailer
    registration

    Minnesota Regs

    -J.


    A flipover is not considered a shelter in those regs. Those regs are for permanent fish houses.


    You, my friend, are incorrect.

    steve33
    Posts: 10
    #1121185

    well the reg.stats ANY SHELTER PLACED ON THE ICE,weather occupied or not,day or night.correct…

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1121187

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    Page 69 of the Minnesota regs:

    Shelters (fish houses and dark houses)
    The following regulations apply to all shelters used on all Minnesota
    waters, unless otherwise noted elsewhere in this booklet.
    • All shelters placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the
    (1) complete name and address, (2) driver’s license number, or (3) the
    nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly
    and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least
    2 inches in height.
    • A shelter may not be left unattended anytime between midnight and
    one hour prior to sunrise unless the shelter is licensed.
    Note: The Dept. of Public Safety–DVS requires trailers used to haul fish
    houses or dark houses and enclosed trailers or recreational trailers used
    for fishing to be registered. See your local Deputy Registrar for trailer
    registration

    Minnesota Regs

    -J.


    A flipover is not considered a shelter in those regs. Those regs are for permanent fish houses.


    You, my friend, are incorrect.


    I’m not your friend (I don’t even know you), and when I emailed the MN DNR they told me a flipover is not considered a shelter but falls in the “tent” category as long as it is not left unattended or affixed to the ice it does not need to be marked.

    dandorn
    M.I.N.N.E.S.O.T.A.
    Posts: 3207
    #1121193

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    Page 69 of the Minnesota regs:

    Shelters (fish houses and dark houses)
    The following regulations apply to all shelters used on all Minnesota
    waters, unless otherwise noted elsewhere in this booklet.
    • All shelters placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the
    (1) complete name and address, (2) driver’s license number, or (3) the
    nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly
    and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least
    2 inches in height.
    • A shelter may not be left unattended anytime between midnight and
    one hour prior to sunrise unless the shelter is licensed.
    Note: The Dept. of Public Safety–DVS requires trailers used to haul fish
    houses or dark houses and enclosed trailers or recreational trailers used
    for fishing to be registered. See your local Deputy Registrar for trailer
    registration

    Minnesota Regs

    -J.


    A flipover is not considered a shelter in those regs. Those regs are for permanent fish houses.


    You, my friend, are incorrect.


    I’m not your friend (I don’t even know you), and when I emailed the MN DNR they told me a flipover is not considered a shelter but falls in the “tent” category as long as it is not left unattended or affixed to the ice it does not need to be marked.


    I knew you would respond negatively to the word “friend”.

    You’re still wrong!

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1121197

    Quote:


    I’m not your friend (I don’t even know you), and when I emailed the MN DNR they told me a flipover is not considered a shelter but falls in the “tent” category as long as it is not left unattended or affixed to the ice it does not need to be marked.


    Call again. Its all how you ask the question. Do flip overs need to be licensed? = No. Do Flipover needs to have your name, DNR id number or DL number? = Yes.

    -J.

    sgt._rock
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2517
    #1121198

    My understanding is a flipover doesn’t need a license like several years ago. Unless left unattended. But it does need to be marked. Confusion again.

    tindall
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1104
    #1121201

    I wondered this a couple years ago too pertaining to a popup. The way that the law is worded it says that you need one of the 3 markings on any shelter that is set up on the ice if you are occupying it or not. It may be that there is further nuance in the actual DNR practice, but I would have a hard time arguing against a guy trying to write me a ticket based off the regs I was given in the book. I use the sleeve thing that came with my shelter and put my DNR# in it.

    I have wondered if this has to do with rights around refusing a search of your ice house, but that would be another topic.

    Also as Jon said, there is a difference between marking your house with one of the 3 IDs (required) and paying the DNR $ to “license” your house (making it legal for leaving overnight unoccupied).

    scottie56005
    Posts: 236
    #1121203

    My “shelter” has a tag. Two years ago a bad karma person pulled up within 20 feet of me and started to fish. He also had a “shelter.” A DNR officer arrived on a snowmobile and began a dialogue with this bad karma person. He also issued some paperwork to the guy so he could sign it. This after he purchased his fishing license on the officer’s handheld computer. No shelter tag citation was issued. Use your imagination on this one. There is nothing to debate here. You have to have it. Well, I take that back now. Guys doing promos with pictures and videos do not have to have a shelter tag. Or do they?

    Will Roseberg
    Moderator
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 2121
    #1121206

    My understanding is that it doesn’t matter what type of house you’re talking about it all has to do with leaving it unattended overnight. If you leave your flip-over unattended overnight then yes you would need a liscense

    iacanoeguy
    Iowa - Franklin Co
    Posts: 277
    #1121209

    Quote:


    Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    11:38 AM

    Message starred

    FROM *Info (DNR) TO You

    RE: Portable Fish House ID

    Hide Details

    From *Info (DNR)
    To Ryan K

    Portables that are not left unattended on the ice overnight do not need licenses, but they still need identification.

    DNR Information Center

    500 Lafayette Rd

    St. Paul, MN 55155-4040

    651-296-6157

    1-888-646-6367

    From: Ryan K
    Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:29 AM
    To: *Info (DNR)
    Subject: Portable Fish House ID

    Hello,

    I’m in need of some clarification. I was under the impression that portable fish houses no longer need ID posted on them (ie. name, address, fishing license number). It was posted earlier on a fishing forum that they still require that information. Can someone please clear this up for me? I will post the information on the fishing site to help clear this up for anyone reading. I appreciate it!

    Ryan K

    There we have it! I guess I better get some info on my portable!


    I brought mine up from IA last year and this was the same information I got. NOT a lis. but YES to ID.

    walldows
    Posts: 101
    #1121218

    I was checked by the DNR last year about this issue. You do not have to have your fip over licensed unless you are leaving it over night. You do have to have your DNR number on the house or you name and address.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17876
    #1121220

    sounds good, looks like I keep my Name/Address info in the clear plastic holder on the zipper door..

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1121221

    Can I put someone else’s name and address and do I have any volunteers?

    scottie56005
    Posts: 236
    #1121234

    How about using MT Extra font for your information? Bet they don’t have a code card with them to read it lol.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18625
    #1121235

    I cant figure out how to create/print using Word to get all on one sheet and 2 inches high. Any suggestions?

    Fife
    Ramsey, MN
    Posts: 4046
    #1121239

    Thanks for the clarification. I was under the impression that identification was not needed.

    I spray painted with stencils my DNR number on my sled and it worked well. I plan to do that on my new portable.

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1121240

    Quote:


    Can I put someone else’s name and address and do I have any volunteers?


    500 Lafayette Road
    St. Paul, MN 55155-4040

    Grouse_Dog
    The Shores of Lake Harriet
    Posts: 2043
    #1121257

    Sharpie with White paper.

    Hunting4Walleyes
    MN
    Posts: 1552
    #1121275

    I bought a 8×10 sheet metal for sale sign and a 2″ letter/number kit made for mailboxes. The 9 digit number fits perfectly and it will never get water damaged or blow away. It fits nicely in the front window of my portable.

    Chris Raymond
    Keweenaw Peninsula, MI
    Posts: 514
    #1121277

    Only permies in MI need name & address.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1121284

    Quote:


    If you barrow someones shelter do you need to change the name on the outside?


    No. The rule clearly says owner. No different than borrowing or renting a car. You would not be required to change out the plates. Well not yet – lets not give them any ideas.

    -J.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18625
    #1121299

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    Sharpie with White paper.


    DUH!!!!

    Done. Otters make it so easy with the cool ID pocket!

    deertracker
    Posts: 9237
    #1121300

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    If you barrow someones shelter do you need to change the name on the outside?


    No. The rule clearly says owner. No different than borrowing or renting a car. You would not be required to change out the plates. Well not yet – lets not give them any ideas.

    -J.


    When the government tattoo’s bar codes on us will I need to put that on my fishhouse?

    Sorry just bored.
    DT

    Chris Raymond
    Keweenaw Peninsula, MI
    Posts: 514
    #1121302

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    If you barrow someones shelter do you need to change the name on the outside?


    No. The rule clearly says owner. No different than borrowing or renting a car. You would not be required to change out the plates. Well not yet – lets not give them any ideas.

    -J.


    When the government tattoo’s bar codes on us will I need to put that on my fishhouse?

    Sorry just bored.
    DT


    Come on now, that’s a bit much…they won’t barcode us. They’ll use RFID chips instead. ;-)

    trekr200
    Red Wing, MN
    Posts: 260
    #1121380

    Two years ago, I was fishing on Bay Point when a CO came up to me and asked me where my identification was for my Clam Yukon. I asked him if I need identification if I am not keeping the shack on the ice overnight. He said I did and gave me a warning ticket. Lesson learned: put identification on any type of structure.

    My concern is putting my DNR number on my shack. If somebody, who has had issue with the DNR, sees my number, they could use it for themselves. It is similar to identity theft.

    My 2 cents.

    Mike

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