I’ve always had my Name & Adress posted in the front pocket of my flip over’s zipper door, is this still required? or only for shacks left on the lake over night?
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Do flipovers need your Name & Address posted?
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December 17, 2012 at 3:58 pm #1121176
Only if you’re from Wisconsin… So I know who to chuck snowballs at
December 17, 2012 at 3:58 pm #1121177Page 69 of the Minnesota regs:
Shelters (fish houses and dark houses)
The following regulations apply to all shelters used on all Minnesota
waters, unless otherwise noted elsewhere in this booklet.
• All shelters placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the
(1) complete name and address, (2) driver’s license number, or (3) the
nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly
and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least
2 inches in height.
• A shelter may not be left unattended anytime between midnight and
one hour prior to sunrise unless the shelter is licensed.
Note: The Dept. of Public Safety–DVS requires trailers used to haul fish
houses or dark houses and enclosed trailers or recreational trailers used
for fishing to be registered. See your local Deputy Registrar for trailer
registration-J.
December 17, 2012 at 4:05 pm #1121180Quote:
Page 69 of the Minnesota regs:
Shelters (fish houses and dark houses)
The following regulations apply to all shelters used on all Minnesota
waters, unless otherwise noted elsewhere in this booklet.
• All shelters placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the
(1) complete name and address, (2) driver’s license number, or (3) the
nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly
and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least
2 inches in height.
• A shelter may not be left unattended anytime between midnight and
one hour prior to sunrise unless the shelter is licensed.
Note: The Dept. of Public Safety–DVS requires trailers used to haul fish
houses or dark houses and enclosed trailers or recreational trailers used
for fishing to be registered. See your local Deputy Registrar for trailer
registration-J.
A flipover is not considered a shelter in those regs. Those regs are for permanent fish houses.
December 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm #1121184Quote:
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Page 69 of the Minnesota regs:
Shelters (fish houses and dark houses)
The following regulations apply to all shelters used on all Minnesota
waters, unless otherwise noted elsewhere in this booklet.
• All shelters placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the
(1) complete name and address, (2) driver’s license number, or (3) the
nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly
and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least
2 inches in height.
• A shelter may not be left unattended anytime between midnight and
one hour prior to sunrise unless the shelter is licensed.
Note: The Dept. of Public Safety–DVS requires trailers used to haul fish
houses or dark houses and enclosed trailers or recreational trailers used
for fishing to be registered. See your local Deputy Registrar for trailer
registration-J.
A flipover is not considered a shelter in those regs. Those regs are for permanent fish houses.
You, my friend, are incorrect.
steve33Posts: 10December 17, 2012 at 4:14 pm #1121185well the reg.stats ANY SHELTER PLACED ON THE ICE,weather occupied or not,day or night.correct…
December 17, 2012 at 4:16 pm #1121187Quote:
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Page 69 of the Minnesota regs:
Shelters (fish houses and dark houses)
The following regulations apply to all shelters used on all Minnesota
waters, unless otherwise noted elsewhere in this booklet.
• All shelters placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the
(1) complete name and address, (2) driver’s license number, or (3) the
nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly
and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least
2 inches in height.
• A shelter may not be left unattended anytime between midnight and
one hour prior to sunrise unless the shelter is licensed.
Note: The Dept. of Public Safety–DVS requires trailers used to haul fish
houses or dark houses and enclosed trailers or recreational trailers used
for fishing to be registered. See your local Deputy Registrar for trailer
registration-J.
A flipover is not considered a shelter in those regs. Those regs are for permanent fish houses.
You, my friend, are incorrect.
I’m not your friend (I don’t even know you), and when I emailed the MN DNR they told me a flipover is not considered a shelter but falls in the “tent” category as long as it is not left unattended or affixed to the ice it does not need to be marked.
December 17, 2012 at 4:25 pm #1121193Quote:
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Page 69 of the Minnesota regs:
Shelters (fish houses and dark houses)
The following regulations apply to all shelters used on all Minnesota
waters, unless otherwise noted elsewhere in this booklet.
• All shelters placed on the ice of Minnesota waters must have either the
(1) complete name and address, (2) driver’s license number, or (3) the
nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of the owner plainly
and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least
2 inches in height.
• A shelter may not be left unattended anytime between midnight and
one hour prior to sunrise unless the shelter is licensed.
Note: The Dept. of Public Safety–DVS requires trailers used to haul fish
houses or dark houses and enclosed trailers or recreational trailers used
for fishing to be registered. See your local Deputy Registrar for trailer
registration-J.
A flipover is not considered a shelter in those regs. Those regs are for permanent fish houses.
You, my friend, are incorrect.
I’m not your friend (I don’t even know you), and when I emailed the MN DNR they told me a flipover is not considered a shelter but falls in the “tent” category as long as it is not left unattended or affixed to the ice it does not need to be marked.
I knew you would respond negatively to the word “friend”.
You’re still wrong!
December 17, 2012 at 4:31 pm #1121197
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I’m not your friend (I don’t even know you), and when I emailed the MN DNR they told me a flipover is not considered a shelter but falls in the “tent” category as long as it is not left unattended or affixed to the ice it does not need to be marked.
Call again. Its all how you ask the question. Do flip overs need to be licensed? = No. Do Flipover needs to have your name, DNR id number or DL number? = Yes.
-J.
December 17, 2012 at 4:31 pm #1121198My understanding is a flipover doesn’t need a license like several years ago. Unless left unattended. But it does need to be marked. Confusion again.
December 17, 2012 at 4:38 pm #1121201I wondered this a couple years ago too pertaining to a popup. The way that the law is worded it says that you need one of the 3 markings on any shelter that is set up on the ice if you are occupying it or not. It may be that there is further nuance in the actual DNR practice, but I would have a hard time arguing against a guy trying to write me a ticket based off the regs I was given in the book. I use the sleeve thing that came with my shelter and put my DNR# in it.
I have wondered if this has to do with rights around refusing a search of your ice house, but that would be another topic.
Also as Jon said, there is a difference between marking your house with one of the 3 IDs (required) and paying the DNR $ to “license” your house (making it legal for leaving overnight unoccupied).
scottie56005Posts: 236December 17, 2012 at 4:47 pm #1121203My “shelter” has a tag. Two years ago a bad karma person pulled up within 20 feet of me and started to fish. He also had a “shelter.” A DNR officer arrived on a snowmobile and began a dialogue with this bad karma person. He also issued some paperwork to the guy so he could sign it. This after he purchased his fishing license on the officer’s handheld computer. No shelter tag citation was issued. Use your imagination on this one. There is nothing to debate here. You have to have it. Well, I take that back now. Guys doing promos with pictures and videos do not have to have a shelter tag. Or do they?
December 17, 2012 at 4:53 pm #1121206My understanding is that it doesn’t matter what type of house you’re talking about it all has to do with leaving it unattended overnight. If you leave your flip-over unattended overnight then yes you would need a liscense
December 17, 2012 at 5:03 pm #1121209Quote:
Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM
11:38 AM
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FROM *Info (DNR) TO You
RE: Portable Fish House ID
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From *Info (DNR)
To Ryan KPortables that are not left unattended on the ice overnight do not need licenses, but they still need identification.
DNR Information Center
500 Lafayette Rd
St. Paul, MN 55155-4040
651-296-6157
1-888-646-6367
From: Ryan K
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:29 AM
To: *Info (DNR)
Subject: Portable Fish House IDHello,
I’m in need of some clarification. I was under the impression that portable fish houses no longer need ID posted on them (ie. name, address, fishing license number). It was posted earlier on a fishing forum that they still require that information. Can someone please clear this up for me? I will post the information on the fishing site to help clear this up for anyone reading. I appreciate it!
Ryan K
There we have it! I guess I better get some info on my portable!
I brought mine up from IA last year and this was the same information I got. NOT a lis. but YES to ID.
walldowsPosts: 101December 17, 2012 at 5:25 pm #1121218I was checked by the DNR last year about this issue. You do not have to have your fip over licensed unless you are leaving it over night. You do have to have your DNR number on the house or you name and address.
December 17, 2012 at 5:27 pm #1121220sounds good, looks like I keep my Name/Address info in the clear plastic holder on the zipper door..
December 17, 2012 at 5:30 pm #1121221Can I put someone else’s name and address and do I have any volunteers?
scottie56005Posts: 236December 17, 2012 at 5:54 pm #1121234How about using MT Extra font for your information? Bet they don’t have a code card with them to read it lol.
December 17, 2012 at 5:56 pm #1121235I cant figure out how to create/print using Word to get all on one sheet and 2 inches high. Any suggestions?
December 17, 2012 at 6:04 pm #1121239Thanks for the clarification. I was under the impression that identification was not needed.
I spray painted with stencils my DNR number on my sled and it worked well. I plan to do that on my new portable.
December 17, 2012 at 6:06 pm #1121240Quote:
Can I put someone else’s name and address and do I have any volunteers?
500 Lafayette Road
St. Paul, MN 55155-4040December 17, 2012 at 7:09 pm #1121275I bought a 8×10 sheet metal for sale sign and a 2″ letter/number kit made for mailboxes. The 9 digit number fits perfectly and it will never get water damaged or blow away. It fits nicely in the front window of my portable.
December 17, 2012 at 7:51 pm #1121284Quote:
If you barrow someones shelter do you need to change the name on the outside?
No. The rule clearly says owner. No different than borrowing or renting a car. You would not be required to change out the plates. Well not yet – lets not give them any ideas.
-J.
December 17, 2012 at 8:27 pm #1121299Quote:
Sharpie with White paper.
DUH!!!!
Done. Otters make it so easy with the cool ID pocket!
deertrackerPosts: 9163December 17, 2012 at 8:29 pm #1121300Quote:
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If you barrow someones shelter do you need to change the name on the outside?
No. The rule clearly says owner. No different than borrowing or renting a car. You would not be required to change out the plates. Well not yet – lets not give them any ideas.
-J.
When the government tattoo’s bar codes on us will I need to put that on my fishhouse?
Sorry just bored.
DTDecember 17, 2012 at 8:39 pm #1121302Quote:
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If you barrow someones shelter do you need to change the name on the outside?
No. The rule clearly says owner. No different than borrowing or renting a car. You would not be required to change out the plates. Well not yet – lets not give them any ideas.
-J.
When the government tattoo’s bar codes on us will I need to put that on my fishhouse?
Sorry just bored.
DT
Come on now, that’s a bit much…they won’t barcode us. They’ll use RFID chips instead.
December 18, 2012 at 12:59 am #1121380Two years ago, I was fishing on Bay Point when a CO came up to me and asked me where my identification was for my Clam Yukon. I asked him if I need identification if I am not keeping the shack on the ice overnight. He said I did and gave me a warning ticket. Lesson learned: put identification on any type of structure.
My concern is putting my DNR number on my shack. If somebody, who has had issue with the DNR, sees my number, they could use it for themselves. It is similar to identity theft.
My 2 cents.
Mike
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