Ice Electronics – The Digital Difference

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    The Digital Difference

    Ice fishing without electronics is like hockey without skates. Hockey without skates? Unthinkable. Ice fishing without digital electronics? Think about upgrading.

    Every sport relies on essential equipment. For ice fishermen, electronics have become as indispensable as a quality rod and reel. And for years, mechanical flashers meant the difference between catching fish and just sitting on a bucket in the cold.

    With recent innovations though, digital flashers are becoming the must-have difference-makers in ice fishing.

    “Mechanical flashers are what we all started with and what many ice fishermen still use. They’re tried and true – reliable, but fairly fixed in their evolution, with their spinning dials, motors and brushes,” says ICE FORCE Pro-Staffer Brad Hawthorne. “And while ‘good enough’ is good enough for some, many ice anglers, including myself, have seen the need for improvements, additional features and flexibility in the way information is displayed.”

    MarCum Technologies’ LX-7 was the flasher they’d been waiting for – a digital color unit that could display a real-time return. For those keeping score at home, returns are delivered in 20 milli-seconds.

    “That’s faster than some mechanical flashers on the market today,” says ICE FORCE Pro-Staffer Calvin Svihel. “And that’s paved the way to the revolution we’re seeing now in ice electronics.”

    Digital sonar devices like MarCum’s LX-7, LX-6 and LX-9 now allow ice anglers to watch the water column in multiple ways, simultaneously.

    Traditionalists can choose the familiar, circular, “flasher” display, but there’s also vertical and chart modes. And all three display modes can be mixed and matched onscreen to suit an angler’s needs.

    “It’s like going to Burger King – you get to ‘Have it your way,’” says ICE FORCE Pro-Staffer Chris Granrud.

    Features impossible to implement on mechanical flashers abound on digital units. They include:

    Target Adjust, which allows anglers to fine-tune the appearance of targets in the water column without affecting the way the bottom return is displayed.
    A user-defined, on-screen “dashboard” that can display your depth, battery voltage, range, gain, interference rejection (IR) and target adjust
    Sonar Footprint technology, which displays an area of bottom coverage at any depth, with either an 8- or 20-degree transducer cone angle.

    One of the biggest advancements in ice electronics is MarCum’s LX-9, which is turning heads with its ability to display sonar returns and underwater video at the same time, on the same screen. With this, MarCum created a single unit that performs jobs previously done by stand-alone cameras and flashers.

    “This completely revolutionizes ice electronics,” says ICE FORCE Pro-Staffer James Holst. “What we have here is the greatest sonar training tool ever created. Imagine being able to see video of a fish eyeballing your bait and seeing that same info interpreted in sonar – at the same time!“

    “And as the guys at MarCum love to remind us,” he says, “This is only just the beginning!“

    Offering a glimpse under the hood, so to speak, MarCum’s engineer and design team members offer perspective in a video on the evolution from mechanical to digital technology. Pretty cool stuff!

    mojogunter
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    #1114346

    Just sold my fl20 today and ordered a new LX7. How is the battery life compared to a traditional flasher?

    James Holst
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    #1114347

    Quote:


    Just sold my fl20 today and ordered a new LX7. How is the battery life compared to a traditional flasher?


    It is good. I commonly saw 10+ hours on a single charge last winter. You can improve on that by reducing your screen brightness from the default setting of 50% down to 30%-35% where I found I had good visibility outside under most situations.

    Vandy
    Central Iowa
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    #1114348

    James,
    Do you know what the battery life will be with the lx9?

    mojogunter
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    #1114350

    Thanks, looking forward to the new toy

    James Holst
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    #1114352

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    James,

    Do you know what the battery life will be with the lx9?


    Yes, in talking with the engineers they’ve shared that the max amp draw on the LX9 is 0.80 amps. For comparison, the max amp draw on an LX5 is 0.75 amps. So, with a 9Amp battery and a max draw of 0.80 amps… you do the math. Conservatively you should expect to see 8 – 10 hours. And the amp draw can be lower if you’re not using all features simultaneously or if you lower screen brightness.

    fisherman-andy
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    #1114357

    Marcum Showdowns. I am certain Marcum has thought of it. Any rumors or ideas if they will ever switch out the black/white LCD to color? I think that would give the Showdowns tremendous appeal over the typical mechanical flasher.

    James Holst
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    #1114364

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    Marcum Showdowns. I am certain Marcum has thought of it. Any rumors or ideas if they will ever switch out the black/white LCD to color? I think that would give the Showdowns tremendous appeal over the typical mechanical flasher.


    MarCum has definitely thought of “colorizing” the Showdowns. The issue at hand is it isn’t possible, with current technology, to add color to the narrow screen of the current Showdown platforms and retain a real-time return. But they’ll keep cracking on it. I’m confident that the next time the Showdown line is updated we’ll be seeing it in color.

    Dave Koonce
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    Prairie du Chien Wi.
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    #1114392

    I am really looking forward to running an LX-6… I have had an LX-5 for many years now… The size of this unit makes it a hole hoppers dream !!!

    Now with the digital age at hand…the sky is the limit !!!

    mojogunter
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    #1114397

    It is great that normark bought Marcum and strikemaster that way I get a big discount. Thinking about selling my jiffy and buying a new strikemaster for less than what I will get for my used jiffy.

    James Holst
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    #1114399

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    It is great that normark bought Marcum and strikemaster that way I get a big discount. Thinking about selling my jiffy and buying a new strikemaster for less than what I will get for my used jiffy.


    FWIW – Normark did not buy MarCum. Or Otter. Or Polaris. Those companies are working with Rapala/Normark under a distribution and/or marketing agreement.

    Vandy
    Central Iowa
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    #1114408

    I am also wondering if Marcum will put a camera upgrade on the LX6?
    Not that it matters to me because I have a 7,just for others that have the 6,or getting the 6.

    James Holst
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    #1114409

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    I am also wondering if Marcum will put a camera upgrade on the LX6?
    Not that it matters to me because I have a 7,just for others that have the 6,or getting the 6.


    Not in the short-term, no. It would require a new board design and lay-out which is a round about way of saying the current LX6’s cannot be upgraded to camera functionality like the LX7.

    Vandy
    Central Iowa
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    #1114417

    Yes, you can get the upgrade when it comes out.

    James Holst
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    #1114429

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    Sweet i might have to find a good deal on craigslist is the screen on the LX9 bigger than the 9?


    The LX-9 is an LX-7 with camera capabilities. The monitor size is the same.

    mojogunter
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    #1114434

    Did they buy strikemaster? I assumed they must have purchased marcum because both marcum and strikemaster have been added to the Rapala VIP program so I get discounts on both. Although a much bigger discount on Strikemaster, but it all helps.

    Quote:


    Quote:


    It is great that normark bought Marcum and strikemaster that way I get a big discount. Thinking about selling my jiffy and buying a new strikemaster for less than what I will get for my used jiffy.


    FWIW – Normark did not buy MarCum. Or Otter. Or Polaris. Those companies are working with Rapala/Normark under a distribution and/or marketing agreement.


    tucrs
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    #1114435

    How long should I leave the LX7 charging.

    It has been on for about 10 hours now and the red light on the charger has not turned green. I know this is a little off topic but I need to know.

    And yes I was playing with it a lot in sim mode and drained my battery… Turn down the screen brightness and I am sure my battery would last longer.

    Thank you

    James Holst
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    #1114439

    Quote:


    Did they buy strikemaster? I assumed they must have purchased marcum because both marcum and strikemaster have been added to the Rapala VIP program so I get discounts on both. Although a much bigger discount on Strikemaster, but it all helps.

    Quote:


    Quote:


    It is great that normark bought Marcum and strikemaster that way I get a big discount. Thinking about selling my jiffy and buying a new strikemaster for less than what I will get for my used jiffy.


    FWIW – Normark did not buy MarCum. Or Otter. Or Polaris. Those companies are working with Rapala/Normark under a distribution and/or marketing agreement.



    Rapala did purchase Strikemaster.

    James Holst
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    #1114440

    Quote:


    How long should I leave the LX7 charging.

    It has been on for about 10 hours now and the red light on the charger has not turned green. I know this is a little off topic but I need to know.

    And yes I was playing with it a lot in sim mode and drained my battery… Turn down the screen brightness and I am sure my battery would last longer.

    Thank you


    What’s the battery monitor on the 7 show for voltage?

    tucrs
    NW Metro
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    #1114463

    HiV I assume High voltage?

    James Holst
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    #1114467

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    HiV I assume High voltage?


    HiV? Never seen that before… ever. Are you looking at the meter on the dashboard? Best way to check the actual charge on the battery is to unplug the charger and take a reading.

    tucrs
    NW Metro
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    #1114474

    Up it was unplugged. It is reading after sitting at little while 13.7V

    James Holst
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    #1114475

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    Up it was unplugged. It is reading after sitting at little while 13.7V


    Hmmmmm…. I’ve never seen a reading higher than 13.4. Let me get back to you on this. 13.7 doesn’t necessarily mean anything is wrong but this is a higher reading than I’m used to seeing and I want to bounce it off the engineers.

    You’ll have a PM from me monday afternoon on this one. Again, I don’t think it means anything is amiss but my inquiring mind wants to know.

    shane123
    Anthon, Iowa
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    #1114476

    as for your light never turning green on the charger, never did on my buddy’s lx-7 nor on my lx-5. leaving it plugged in never damaged the battery, so the trickle worked fine. if you start seeing your battery bulge or smell like rotten eggs or get really warm, your charger (automatic trickle function) is not working properly and is cooking the battery.

    I want to make sure that all users remember to unplug the charger cord from the battery when it isn’t plugged into the wall. The led on the charger will suck battery juice to power the led if it remains plugged into the battery and not into the wall, draining your battery. If you drain it too low, you can kill the battery permanently so it wont hold a good surface charge. A true marine deep cycle battery will allow you to discharge your battery to lower rates, but I do not believe these are deep cycle batteries in these units.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
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    #1114529

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    Ice fishing without electronics is like hockey without skates. Hockey without skates? Unthinkable.


    Ever heard of boot hockey?

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