This story/interview came out this morning that answered a question I’ve always had. Stu said to many people the government was interested or were buying his dogs (I don’t recall which).
This article explains it in detail.
No matter the outcome it’s still a sad story. Very interesting the TSA angle provides.
I remember him talking about feeding rendering truck animals and roadkill deer to his dogs… and he talked openly about it.
I remember him talking about feeding rendering truck animals and roadkill deer to his dogs… and he talked openly about it.
And folks here and elsewhere reported this to authorities for years. Finally someone took notice! 
-J.
There’s starving kids in Africa who’d love to eat our roadkill deer…..
There’s starving kids in Africa who’d love to eat our roadkill deer…..
An awful reality, but immaterial. There are laws about how we treat animals. When somebody makes it his business to profit from the breeding of those animals, they should be held to the legal standards at a bare minimum.
I’m a complete outsider to the dog world. I won’t own one, won’t let one in my house, but do enjoy their company IF it belongs to someone else.
With that being said, there are actually laws that dictate what can and cannot be fed to a pet…an animal?!?!? Our founding fathers must be rolling over in their graves to think government rule has went this far. Is it strange, and probably unnecessary? Sure. Is that the biggest problem those local authorities have to deal with? If so…they’re overlooking an awful lot.
I’m a complete outsider to the dog world. I won’t own one, won’t let one in my house, but do enjoy their company IF it belongs to someone else.
With that being said, there are actually laws that dictate what can and cannot be fed to a pet…an animal?!?!? Our founding fathers must be rolling over in their graves to think government rule has went this far. Is it strange, and probably unnecessary? Sure. Is that the biggest problem those local authorities have to deal with? If so…they’re overlooking an awful lot.
I think the laws are there to prevent the spread of disease. I can see how random dead animals could be cause for concern. Without them you’d probably see more issues like CWD.
Not a lot different than some ais laws.
Ahh…makes sense with the roadkill and threat of spreading disease.
Are there laws against harvesting animals legally (coons, turkeys, deer, squirrel, gophers, etc.) and letting your animals eat the carcasses? I do remember an old timer neighbor when I was growing up who would feed deer carcasses from hunting to his hound pack. Now I’m curious to the legality of it. In theory, the humans ate the venison…why couldn’t the dogs pick through their “leftovers”
The problem is this. If you are boarding 30 to 50+ dogs for sale, you need to be able to care for them. If Stu West did not get lucky enough to pick up a road kill dear, or a sick deceased cow or other farm animal the dogs did not eat. He had no resources to care for that number of dogs. No vet visits, no shots. no basic care. No proof that he ever bought a bag of dog food! Add it the fact that the dogs lived in horrid conditions. Caged up most of the day. Maybe for days on end? No clean water. Grrrr! He should go to jail. But I’m convinced the man has serious mental problems. At the very least, I hope the judge orders him to never be able to own a dog again for life. Then send him to the nut farm.
-J.
I think it’s obvious the man created some superior breed, feds took notice and then was framed by the government to steal his secrets that he wasn’t willing to give up easily. Just sayin 
The problem is this. If you are boarding 30 to 50+ dogs for sale, you need to be able to care for them. If Stu West did not get lucky enough to pick up a road kill dear, or a sick deceased cow or other farm animal the dogs did not eat. He had no resources to care for that number of dogs. No vet visits, no shots. no basic care. No proof that he ever bought a bag of dog food! Add it the fact that the dogs lived in horrid conditions. Caged up most of the day. Maybe for days on end? No clean water. Grrrr! He should go to jail. But I’m convinced the man has serious mental problems. At the very least, I hope the judge orders him to never be able to own a dog again for life. Then send him to the nut farm.
-J.
I’m feeling this pain…..
Ahh…makes sense with the roadkill and threat of spreading disease.
Are there laws against harvesting animals legally (coons, turkeys, deer, squirrel, gophers, etc.) and letting your animals eat the carcasses? I do remember an old timer neighbor when I was growing up who would feed deer carcasses from hunting to his hound pack. Now I’m curious to the legality of it. In theory, the humans ate the venison…why couldn’t the dogs pick through their “leftovers”
It varies state to state, but there are tougher standards for businesses and breeding. If you can legally harvest road kill in your state then you can probably legally eat it and/or feed it to your pet legally. If you run a business doing this then you have to be able to show your animals are getting consistent, clean water and nutritious food.
Is that the biggest problem those local authorities have to deal with?
A problem doesn’t need to be the BIGGEST in the world for it to be worthy of fixing.
Hang him.After he’s been left in a cage for a week or two.He could have minimal water and a chunk of diseased cow,than hang him.
I think it’s obvious the man created some superior breed, feds took notice and then was framed by the government to steal his secrets that he wasn’t willing to give up easily. Just sayin
Exactly, might be also tied in with how our modern day dogs came from the wolf??? 
I think it’s obvious the man created some superior breed, feds took notice and then was framed by the government to steal his secrets that he wasn’t willing to give up easily. Just sayin
That’s it. “The man” created a superior breed…from visitors from outer space. No doubt a government cover up. “The Team” is on this now.
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The problem is this. If you are boarding 30 to 50+ dogs for sale, you need to be able to care for them. If Stu West did not get lucky enough to pick up a road kill dear, or a sick deceased cow or other farm animal the dogs did not eat. He had no resources to care for that number of dogs. No vet visits, no shots. no basic care. No proof that he ever bought a bag of dog food! Add it the fact that the dogs lived in horrid conditions. Caged up most of the day. Maybe for days on end? No clean water. Grrrr! He should go to jail. But I’m convinced the man has serious mental problems. At the very least, I hope the judge orders him to never be able to own a dog again for life. Then send him to the nut farm.
-J.
This should be the minimum sentence. What should happen is feed his carcass to his dogs. 
He said West showed him videos of his dogs stopping cold after catching a bird scent from 1,000 feet away.
I’ve got to question a guy that believes the truthfulness of videos allegedly showing dogs “stopping cold” after catching a bird scent from 1,000 feet away. Does he realize how far 1,000 feet actually is? Has he actually ever bird hunted? I know some dogs have an amazing sense of smell, but even in a Wisconsin field, there could be a dozen birds between the dog and the one a 1,000 feet away that the dog is supposedly pointing.
Boone, I’m not gonna pretend to know anything about dogs, and my comment was just a bit of humor but the amazing skills many animals have can’t be scoffed at. It very well could have been what the official said, and could’ve just been a sly comment to cover their own butts for not looking at the condition of the animals they took interest in.
FYI there isn’t anything wrong with feeding road kill to these dogs.
The problem arises when the road kill is picked up in July after being on the side of the road for a week EVEN though dogs, coons, eagles and such would be eating this in the wild anyway…as gross as it is to us.
Dang I sound like a SW supporter…and that is not the case…but to the folks that are condemning him for keeping his dogs in cages for weeks or whatever, remember this next time you see veal on the menu.
I don’t eat veal and I don’t condone puppy mills as this was.
The bigger issue was their ‘care’ and not the roadkill.
I just hope me or someone I love gets to that point where they don’t know what they are doing is wrong.
I feel bad for the dogs, but ultimately I have more apathy for the human.
Totally agree.
When this all went down, I recall reading that he had the carcasses of numerous dogs lined up in a barn. That aint’ sane. This was an effed up situation.
I’ve got to question a guy that believes the truthfulness of videos allegedly showing dogs “stopping cold” after catching a bird scent from 1,000 feet away. Does he realize how far 1,000 feet actually is? Has he actually ever bird hunted? I know some dogs have an amazing sense of smell, but even in a Wisconsin field, there could be a dozen birds between the dog and the one a 1,000 feet away that the dog is supposedly pointing.
I was thinking the same thing last night. My dog’s got a damn good nose on him, but scenting a bird at 1000 feet? That’s over 3 football fields. My other question was if they’re that intrigued by the ability to point, why labs? There are plenty of breeds that are much superior to labs at pointing.
Agreed Ralph.
My neighbor had an ankle biter die on them. They left it on their picnic table (in the front yard) stiff legs up for two days.
I was planning on stopping in an chatting to them about their new lawn ornament but someone called the sheriff before I could get there.
We are all dog lovers (most of us anyway), trying to understand what a person is thinking when it comes to a no feelings attached, assembly line dog mill is past our ability to understand. Much like other countries where dog is on the menu.
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I’ve got to question a guy that believes the truthfulness of videos allegedly showing dogs “stopping cold” after catching a bird scent from 1,000 feet away. Does he realize how far 1,000 feet actually is? Has he actually ever bird hunted? I know some dogs have an amazing sense of smell, but even in a Wisconsin field, there could be a dozen birds between the dog and the one a 1,000 feet away that the dog is supposedly pointing.I was thinking the same thing last night. My dog’s got a damn good nose on him, but scenting a bird at 1000 feet? That’s over 3 football fields. My other question was if they’re that intrigued by the ability to point, why labs? There are plenty of breeds that are much superior to labs at pointing.
However those other breeds may not have the durability and ease of care that a lab has. Short hair, highly agile, and a body that can take a beating(not literally of course) is prime reason many agencies may seek out a lab that has an excellent nose.
My other question was if they’re that intrigued by the ability to point, why labs? There are plenty of breeds that are much superior to labs at pointing.
I believe in the story they referenced their temperament, labs being friendly, in a crowded airport.
I believe in the story they referenced their temperament, labs being friendly, in a crowded airport.
There are plenty of good reasons to chose labs. Just saying that if they’re so fixated on the ability to point, labs shouldn’t be in the conversation. Not a slam on labs in any way. Not that any of this has to do with the case.
This guy is so far off his rocker they should take whatever prison sentence he gets, double or triple it and send him to Wisconsin’s version of the St. Peter Mental Ward.
While I don’t condone the mistreatment of animals or abuse of any creature…….
I hope none of you ever go to a dairy, hog, turkey, or chicken farm. Let alone a slaughter house. You all will probably become vegetarians.
Don’t differentiate cosmetics between a chicken and a dog, when they are both tools. It is all cosmetic. Some nations/cultures eat dog as a delicacy, while others praise the cow.
There is a lot of complaints about dogs living in cages for days.
Yet, chickens laying eggs never leave the box they are in, yet everyone loves fried eggs…..
Otherwise some people might begin throwing buckets of blood on those wearing fur coats……..
Again………I’m a dog lover.
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