No Outright bans by Pres!!!

Not bad. He wants congress to vote in bans. Likely not going to happen soon but some day……Looks like we are out of the woods for now.

While Obama’s speech was obviously crafted by his handlers to make it seem like he was goint to impliment all of the actions he talked about, what he actully can do is laughably limited.

The VAST majority of the supposals and the most restrictive ones must be passed by Congress. And they won’t be.

As an aside, I hope Eric Holder is taking special note of increased restrictions on gun trafficers. He should already be in jail for many of these offenses.

Here’s a summary:

http://news.yahoo.com/factbox-obamas-proposals-curb-gun-violence-172045039.html

PROPOSALS REQUIRING APPROVAL BY CONGRESS

– Require criminal background checks on prospective buyers in all gun sales. A White House summary of Obama’s plan calls this “the single most important thing we can do to prevent gun violence and mass shootings.” Federally licensed firearms dealers now are required to run background checks on gun buyers, but studies estimate that nearly 40 percent of all sales are made by private sellers who are exempt from the requirement.

– Renew and strengthen the federal ban on sales of military-style assault weapons that was in effect 1994-2004. A 2010 survey by the Police Executive Research Forum found that more than one-third of police departments reported an increase in criminals’ use of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines since the prohibition ended. Bringing back the ban would be difficult because of opposition from Republicans and some Democrats in Congress.

– Reinstate a ban on magazines holding more than 10 rounds. Like expanded background checks, this is likely to have more support in Congress than an assault weapons ban.

– Ban the possession of armor-piercing ammunition and its transfer to anyone other than the military and law enforcement.

– Increase punishments for gun trafficking, particularly by unlicensed dealers or “straw buyers” who purchase arms for criminals.

– Provide $30 million in one-time grants to states to help school districts develop and implement emergency management plans.

– Approve the White House’s $4 billion proposal to help keep 15,000 police officers on the streets.

– Confirm a director for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The ATF has not had a director for six years. The National Rifle Association, the nation’s largest gun-rights group, has pushed to weaken the ATF’s authority to enforce gun laws and prevent the agency from having strong leadership.

– Give $150 million to school districts and law enforcement agencies to hire school resource officers, school psychologists, social workers, and counselors. This would put up to 1,000 new school resource officers – specially trained police officers who work in schools – and school counselors on the job.

– Reach 750,000 young people through programs to identify mental illness early and refer them to treatment. A new initiative, Project AWARE (Advancing Wellness and Resilience in Education) would provide training for teachers and other adults who regularly interact with students to recognize young people who need help and ensure they are referred to mental health services.

ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY OBAMA

– Make it easier for states to make information – notably about those with mental health issues – available to the background check system.

– Direct the Centers for Disease Control and scientific agencies to conduct research into the causes and prevention of gun violence.

– Direct U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

– Launch a national responsible gun ownership campaign.

– Require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

– Nominate a director for the ATF.

– Ensure that every school has a comprehensive emergency management plan. A 2010 survey found that although 84 percent of public schools had a written response plan in the event of a shooting, only 52 percent had drilled their students on the plan during the previous year.

– Finalize requirements for private health insurance plans to cover mental health services under the healthcare overhaul of 2010.

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Not bad. He wants congress to vote in bans. Likely not going to happen soon but some day……Looks like we are out of the woods for now.

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Hope you are right, I fear it may be the lull before the storm.

I think you are right but we do have some time to stock up before the storm.

Heard he also signed 23 EOs, anyone know what they cover?
I understand he ordered doctors to act as gun investigators.

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I think you are right but we do have some time to stock up before the storm.

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And time is of essence!

Hope the vote happens in the next 2 years, he’s done a good job of demonizing the GOP and we may not have the house after the next election.

Here is the list of executive orders:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

As my Mr. Jordan put it, another 500 million our country doesn’t have.

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The VAST majority of the supposals and the most restrictive ones must be passed by Congress. And they won’t be.

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I hope you are correct on this statement, but I am not so sure. The recent laws in NY flew thru both a Republican Senate and a Democratic House – The vote was not even close

I suspect the Devil will lurk in the details of implementation!

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The VAST majority of the supposals and the most restrictive ones must be passed by Congress. And they won’t be.

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I hope you are correct on this statement, but I am not so sure. The recent laws in NY flew thru both a Republican Senate and a Democratic House – The vote was not even close

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Yes, but you have to keep in mind that in New Yack, the “Republicans” aren’t even conservative enough to be classified as Democrats if they lived in any normal state.

New Yack is like Calafornication, a state that’s drowning in a cesspool of their own making. The key is to make sure that the pinko states don’t drag the rest of us down with them.

Grouse

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Hope the vote happens in the next 2 years, he’s done a good job of demonizing the GOP and we may not have the house after the next election.

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I think his plan is long range. Once the dems are in charge its over. Also heard the dictator may push for amnesty for illegals which of course would all vote democrat and then any gun laws they want will be easy.

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I think his plan is long range. Once the dems are in charge its over. Also heard the dictator may push for amnesty for illegals which of course would all vote democrat and then any gun laws they want will be easy.

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Ummm, technically speaking Zuke, illegals can’t vote. Even if there was some kind of amnesty, that woldn’t make them citizens and only citizens can vote. You can be in this country legally and NOT be able to vote as well.

Somewhat ironically, the Obama administrations proposals on immigration reform almost exactly copy Sen Marco Rubio’s (Republican, Florida)proposal in the Senate. I, for one, am giving a wait/see on this question. Immigration reform isn’t an issue that favors one side or the other. Some of the biggest fans of immigration reform are in red states. I want overall reform, I don’t care which party takes credit.

Grouse