Lab training HELP

  • john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2582
    #718117

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    Makes me wonder who our youth will be getting their information from in 20 years.


    I’d guess from places like IDO.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #718122

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    Makes me wonder who our youth will be getting their information from in 20 years.


    I’d guess from places like IDO.


    I view places like IDO as offering opinions. They have nobody on staff that I know of who is paid to dig up information. I assume that everything posted here is just somebody’s opinion. Many times you can read a thread that is clearly biased (like mine regarding the Vikings )which may offer a one sided view of an issue. My original question was more about gaining information that wasn’t slanted, just informational.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #718124

    Thought I heard Jason Mitchell is going to take over on Tony Dean’s show. Maybe Hollywood Tommy Skarlis should get a show.

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #718143

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    Makes me wonder who our youth will be getting their information from in 20 years.


    I’d guess from places like IDO.


    I view places like IDO as offering opinions. They have nobody on staff that I know of who is paid to dig up information. I assume that everything posted here is just somebody’s opinion.


    This is not an opinion, but a fact. We ask time and time again that people back up their “Opinions” with facts here on IDO. More often than not they are taken to task by the membership if they don’t. It causes many of us to go out and dig up information on our own to share it with others. This often times inspires serious debate on a number of subjects. More so than a static magazine or newspaper article. I see the new technology going that way. I spent a week in training a week or so ago discussing this point. We need to figure out how to use this new technlogy (Internet) to obtain and convey information. Like it or not, the old technology of print media is going by the wayside. Who is going to step up? Maybe it’s you? Maybe it’s anyone you read here on IDO or another site. With thousands and thousands of members here on IDO, I think top notch timely information is being offered. It is only as good as the folks contributing, so keep up the good work!

    spd800
    NW Metro
    Posts: 238
    #718180

    “Many times you can read a thread that is clearly biased

    “My original question was more about gaining information that wasn’t slanted , just informational.”

    How is this any different that what we are getting from Mass Media. I think you need to get on the internet just to see if what is being reported is even close to the truth.

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #718190

    It is only slanted if it affects you, right?

    Information is information. You have to use your own brain to figure out for yourself what is right or wrong, or good and bad.

    Don’t clearly biased opinions or stances get challenged here by the masses? Be it right or left leaning? And I mean from “Center” not necessarily political-wise.

    There are facts out there for anyone to gather and present. A static news article leaves me without an opportunity to ask questions or debate the issue. Nick Coleman comes to mind. He can sit on the sidelines behind his typewriter keyboard, sling arrows and hide behind the paper. You can contact him…or try at least. Chances are you will not hear from him. In this format, you can face differing opinions and facts as they are presented. YOU can decide if they are slanted or not. That is the beauty of the internet in my eyes! The give and take is interaction! An art that is being lost…or should I say “Replaced” by email, Twix, Pix, Texts….and whatever they come up with next! We are losing the “Art of being human!”

    HooksWife
    Crystal, MN
    Posts: 683
    #718214

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    Thought I heard Jason Mitchell is going to take over on Tony Dean’s show. Maybe Hollywood Tommy Skarlis should get a show.


    When I talked with Tony and Jason at Hunters this summer, it was talked about that Jason was taking over the show. Not that I would really know this sort of thing but that was the talk.

    HooksWife
    Crystal, MN
    Posts: 683
    #718216

    On the other IDO post of Tony Dean, there’s a link to a website that talks of his last days. On there it is said that Jason was his cohost and eased viewers into the Jason “outdoors” show.

    bigshoots30
    Sartell, MN
    Posts: 317
    #718218

    Still a real bummer that he’s gone. Loved watching his shows. Skarlis would be a good choice for an outdoor show host! He doesn’t lack humor that’s for sure!

    martin_vrieze
    Eagan
    Posts: 484
    #718220

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    I view places like IDO as offering opinions. They have nobody on staff that I know of who is paid to dig up information. I assume that everything posted here is just somebody’s opinion….My original question was more about gaining information that wasn’t slanted, just informational.


    Huh I must be one of those slow ones

    Dude…I can count the number of walleyes I caught in my lifetime on one hand before I was turned on to this website.

    Four years later, I can’t keep count of the number of walleyes I’ve caught. And not just numbers…QUALITY FISH. I look at guys like James Holst, Dustin Stewart, Steve Dezurik, Mike Westman, Joel Ellingson and all of the other guys I’ve met, fished with, read posts, learned from…these guys taught me to fish successfully.

    I take my kids, my spouse, friends, my dad, my father-in-law on the river and usually can get these guys on fish. These guys look up to me for fishing information and know-how but I quickly tell them everything I have learned was on IDO.

    You can’t find how-to that is informational…

    Guess I’ll stick to the opinions .

    redneck
    Rosemount
    Posts: 2627
    #718247

    If you think what Tony Dean said wasn’t slanted and opinionated then those are some strong cocktails you are drinking. In the Dakotas Tony wasn’t universally liked for his “views”. Everyone has opinions and the next person to fill their shoes will do likewise. Personally I like Al Linder’s take on things. Yes, he is opinionated but his slant is that God has the overall picture and that is alright with me. I just hope we can get enough kids involved that it matters who the next spokesman is. Look around on the lake and in the field—it sure seems like there are fewer young people there than ever before. I think that is the “real” problem!

    chappy
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 4854
    #718261

    I don’t think Skarlis would be a good host.I thiink that he’s ” too” excited most of the time…..He needs to tone it down in my opinion. I really don’t think I could take him seriously.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #718313

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    I view places like IDO as offering opinions. They have nobody on staff that I know of who is paid to dig up information. I assume that everything posted here is just somebody’s opinion….My original question was more about gaining information that wasn’t slanted, just informational.


    Huh I must be one of those slow ones

    Dude…I can count the number of walleyes I caught in my lifetime on one hand before I was turned on to this website.

    Four years later, I can’t keep count of the number of walleyes I’ve caught. And not just numbers…QUALITY FISH. I look at guys like James Holst, Dustin Stewart, Steve Dezurik, Mike Westman, Joel Ellingson and all of the other guys I’ve met, fished with, read posts, learned from…these guys taught me to fish successfully.

    I take my kids, my spouse, friends, my dad, my father-in-law on the river and usually can get these guys on fish. These guys look up to me for fishing information and know-how but I quickly tell them everything I have learned was on IDO.

    You can’t find how-to that is informational…

    Guess I’ll stick to the opinions .


    First off……….I’m not “Dude”.

    Second……….the post has nothing to do with fishing ability or know how. It asked a question relating to where the information that guys like Tony Dean and Ron Schara and others have provided for years.

    jldii
    Posts: 2294
    #718340

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    Thought I heard Jason Mitchell is going to take over on Tony Dean’s show. Maybe Hollywood Tommy Skarlis should get a show.


    When I talked with Tony and Jason at Hunters this summer, it was talked about that Jason was taking over the show. Not that I would really know this sort of thing but that was the talk.


    The plan was for Tony to continue on this year as an emcee and help Jason get situated with the show. After that it was going to be Jason’s show. I spent a day on the water with Jason trying to get some good footage of bobber fishing walleyes this summer, and will be continuing to work with him in the future.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13651
    #718377

    I caught a great segment on the WFN channel about the Top Sports writers, fishermen, and how the industry is changing. Some of the top writers for many of the top publications we see are all aging. They acknowledged that there is not the “next” generation coming in to fill the void and keep the traditional media going. Most of the new generation is on bullenten boards, blogs, Youtube,….and so on. The industry is changing faster than you think!

    Ted Wedul
    holmen, wi
    Posts: 765
    #718401

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    Makes me wonder who our youth will be getting their information from in 20 years.


    James Holst…

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #718410

    Ha, I’ve been thinking that for years!!! I couldn’t think of a better individual to look up to for our young outdoorsman/woman.

    jldii
    Posts: 2294
    #533721

    Maybe the reason we have a hard time thinking of who will lead the charge from now on is because we ourselves haven’t done enough on our own. We haven’t nurtured our own next generation of leaders in the conservation field.

    All the more reason to think strongly about who we vote into office in a couple weeks. You DO NOT have to vote a straight party line. Vote for who you think will best re-present your feelings, including the enviroment and the future of our outdoor sports.

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #718439

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    Makes me wonder who our youth will be getting their information from in 20 years.


    James Holst…


    If you guys only knew what Uncle James has taught my kids over the years…

    sliderfishn
    Blaine, MN
    Posts: 5432
    #718445

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    Makes me wonder who our youth will be getting their information from in 20 years.


    James Holst…


    If you guys only knew what Uncle James has taught my kids over the years…


    And from what I have seen of your kids Tuck, you should be proud.

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #718454

    Very proud!

    Even after those days when they would say…”Dad, we stayed up with James until 5:30 AM drinking Mountain Dew!”

    He IS the “Uncle” that kids go nuts over when they know he is coming over.

    Look what he started here! And look at what has happened with “Catch-Photo & Release” here on the River since the FTR-IDO days….

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22538
    #718464

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    If you guys only knew what Uncle James has taught my kids over the years…


    Can’t be as bad as what they have learned from “Uncle Mike” over the years….

    big G

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #718465

    Yes, the TLO has been blessed, haven’t they?

    Uncle Big D, Uncle Big G, Cousin Josh…

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22538
    #718467

    These young kids can’t get enuff edumacation in my opinion…

    big G

    martin_vrieze
    Eagan
    Posts: 484
    #718491

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    First off……….I’m not “Dude”.


    Are you “Dudette” then?!?!?!

    Man…Woman
    Boy…Girl
    Dude…Dudette

    Lets stick to Dude.

    Bullcan
    Posts: 68
    #207684

    Well here we go:
    I have a 10month old yellow lab male. he will take off running after any neighbor or any one walking in the street. He has his e-collar on and I tell him to stop/here and keeps going. I give him a hit with the collar and I can see him getting the shock, he just shakes it off and deals with the “pain”. finally after a good couple of hits with the collar he comes running back. What can I do to stop this running off form happening?

    Next: He is jumping on people when the come over. I’ve dont the knee to the chest. Does nothing. any help here would be great.

    gotcrappie
    Posts: 5
    #128613

    I would keep him on a long check cord, used in conjunction with the e-collar until he understands the basic commands. Come, sit, stay are basic commands he should have mastered on a check cord before he is ever shocked with the e-collar. Your jumping problem can be cured the same way but with a short leash. Practice with family or neighbors coming to the door, the short leash willl allow you teach him the expectations, then you can introduce the e-collar to finish the lesson.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18715
    #128627

    Very possible you have a WAL. (wild assed lab). You can work on it but maturity may be your best hope unless your an out of work pro-trainer than can spend an enourmous amount of time with him.

    ap2049
    Posts: 85
    #128630

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    I would keep him on a long check cord, used in conjunction with the e-collar until he understands the basic commands. Come, sit, stay are basic commands he should have mastered on a check cord before he is ever shocked with the e-collar. Your jumping problem can be cured the same way but with a short leash. Practice with family or neighbors coming to the door, the short leash willl allow you teach him the expectations, then you can introduce the e-collar to finish the lesson.


    I agree 100%. I didn’t start using an ecollar for a few years.

    fish_any_time
    Champlin, MN
    Posts: 2097
    #128649

    Repetition, repetition and more repetition.

    You have to keep up with it until it becomes habit with your dog. 15-20 minutes per day 5 times per week is all it takes, but you have to keep up with it.

    You may consider joining a retreiver club in your area. Tons of resources within a club.

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