The FEINSTEIN ASSULT WEAPON BAN INFO

  • Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #207675

    Here it is folks. I know the debate amongst sportsmen has been the dems control…the republicans control… and it shouldn’t get through. In light of the latest media blitz and these gun ban crazed idiots that think more laws will serve us better, I have a gut feeling this just might happen.
    Reading the last part with registering your firearm and you will be flipping the bill to the ATF to pay for all of this!

    Regardless if you disagree with me, PLEASE take the time to draft an email and send it to your state Senetors and Representatives. This “ban” is opening up a path that the Brits have already gone down, and look at where it got them!!
    Stopping the spread of deadly assault weapons Stay informed In January, Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devices. To receive updates on this legislation, click here. Press releases Feinstein to Introduce Updated Assault Weapons Bill in New Congress, December 17, 2012 Feinstein Statement on Connecticut School Shooting, December 14, 2012 Summary of 2013 legislation Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation: Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of: 120 specifically-named firearms; Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds. Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by: Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test; Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans. Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds. Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by: Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment; Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes; and Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons. Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include: Background check of owner and any transferee; Type and serial number of the firearm; Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint; Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.

    FEINSTEIN’s Website – Gun Ban

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #128402

    Madness.

    ragerunner
    Winona, MN
    Posts: 699
    #128404

    So you’re saying I will have to register my brand new thumb-grip shotgun??? How is this an ‘assault rifle’? This BS will cause more deaths than keeping these guns legal. I’d love to see someone try to make my neighbor register his guns!!!

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #128408

    E-mail sent. That is total BS. That would include .22 semi auto’s with tube feed.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #128410

    When I calm down a bit, I’ll draft a cut/paste email that people can use if they wish. I’ll also post the links to all the email addresses.

    BTW – PHONE CALLS in addition to emails go a long way.

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #128418

    I was just going to say Randy…. PHONE CALLS! Emails can pile up and go unread. Make ’em talk to you!

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #128419

    Also guys…… there’s going to be a lot of wing nut, boner brains expressing their points of view as well so do everything in your power to be well thought out and intelligent in your presentations. The majority of the anti-gunners think we’re only 1 tick above a pickle jar anyway so take the time to be SMART!

    mike_j
    Nashua Iowa
    Posts: 754
    #128420

    My muzzle loader has a thumbhole stock! This is far worse than anything I could have imagined they would come up with.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #128422

    There are a lot of guys out there that are thinking this won’t affect them because they don’t have a “Military” style assault rifle…..

    Want to mount an accessory on your rifle, it just might qualify you for a registration!

    My favorite 22-250 Howa, thumbhole. It may be an assault rifle on coyotes but not humans.

    Like everything else in life, its the law abiding people that pay the price of a few dumb ‘s


    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #128472

    Great photo Randy!!! Beautiful firearm!

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #128475

    Thanks for posting that Kooty! I learned a quite a bit from that guy!

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #128638

    So I wrote my senator. Talk about skirt the issue. Doesn’t sound good. Here is what I got back.

    Dear Paul,

    Thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding your thoughts on federal gun control measures in light of the recent tragedy in Connecticut.

    A terrible and incomprehensible act of violence took place at Sandy Hook Elementary School. We are all deeply impacted by the horror of little children and brave adults being murdered. There are many serious issues that will need to be discussed and considered in the weeks and months to come. But right now, our primary concern should be for the families and the community of Newtown.

    At moments like this, America comes together to mourn and support one another. We will do so again in the coming days, and then search for answers on how to prevent such tragedies in the future

    As your Senator, I believe it is my primary responsibility to uphold the Constitution and the Second Amendment is no exception. I will continue to strongly support our Second Amendment rights. One of the bills I have chosen to cosponsor regarding the Second Amendment is S. 570 introduced by Senator Jon Tester (D-MT) on March 14, 2011. This bill would prohibit the Department of Justice from tracking and cataloguing the purchases of multiple rifles and shotguns.

    Thank you again for taking the time to share your thoughts. It is important for me to hear the views and concerns of the people I serve. Please feel free to contact me in the future if I can further assist you or your family. It is an honor representing you and the good people of Wisconsin in the U.S. Senate.

    Sincerely,

    Ron Johnson
    United States Senator

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #128650

    Here is my follow up letter sent today

    Re: New Gun Ban Legislation
    To my elected officials:
    Please be advised that how you respond to this very issue of gun control will have a direct impact on my confidence in you to represent me. Any restrictions or additional laws that affect me, a law abiding citizen, in a negative manor will result in viewing you as attacking my rights.
    Among our unalienable rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What use are these rights if one cannot protect them? Unless an individual can protect these rights, they are rendered meaningless. The Second Amendment was written for the purpose of protecting these rights.
    With the right to protect comes an awesome responsibility, and most people who acquire guns legally are responsible with them. Gun laws restrict only lawful gun owners, not unlawful ones. Restrictions and bans on guns limit a person’s ability to do just that and do not and never will limit or restrict the intruder.
    In this country, we are free to exercise — or not — the right of self-defense. If one chooses not to exercise that right because he fears guns, he is free not to defend themselves. But he cannot in any way infringe on my right to exercise and defend my life, liberty and property.
    After every tragic incident involving the use of firearms, those on the political left call for restricting or banning guns as the answer to the evil that resides in the hearts of some people. Banning guns will only exacerbate the problem. The only thing it will restrict evil is the ability to defend against it.
    For the left to use these tragedies to restrict and limit my ability to protect my family and property from the evil that exists in man is appalling and it should be shamed for doing so.
    The Second Amendment, along with the other nine are not a Bill of Suggestions, they are a Bill of Rights and are not subject to negotiation.
    In addition to protection, I am part of a very long traditional family of hunting and avid target shooting. The proposed ban and restrictions being introduced infringe upon my right to pursue the lawful activities of which I desire to continue. I am a law abiding citizen that has the utmost respect for ethics, safety, and human life. These bans will prohibit me from replacing or repairing tools that I currently own.
    I feel this is being forced upon us without the proper representation of which I voted for you to protect. I strongly urge you to look past the skewed information and see the actual facts. Guns do not kill or injure innocent people. Criminals do! We need to direct the focus back to criminals and enforcing existing laws. New or revised laws will only make more restrictions to law abiding citizens, and pave the way for more criminal activity.
    I have spent countless hours viewing information reported by the FBI, State, and local authorities on violence and death. It angers me to see our elected officials (nationally) and many media venues present information that is taken out of context, or simply isn’t accurate. If any of you would take the time to see the REAL numbers, you would see many more causes of death that have significantly higher rates than the use of a firearm.
    I not only urge you, I demand that you – my elected representative – will protect my rights and vote against any additional legislation containing restrictions or bans on any firearms.
    Sincerely,

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #128651

    My reply back above is ok. But to me he sounds like he blames firearms a bit for the school shootings even though he says he’s pro 2nd Amend. Maybe I’m reading it wrong and I hope so.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #128652

    Most of those supporters are dilusional. They dispute two of the most concrete truths we have. Death and taxes.
    Taxes always rise and everyone dies. But according to them neither should happen. Wierdos.

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #128688

    Quote:


    Most of those supporters are dilusional. They dispute two of the most concrete truths we have. Death and taxes.
    Taxes always rise and everyone dies. But according to them neither should happen. Wierdos.


    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #128738

    I just wrote both our senators and my representative although I felt discusted and dirty reaching out to franken knowing full well where he stands on the issue.

    johnee
    Posts: 731
    #128771

    Good commentary on the radio this morning about what may/may not fly as far as gun law changes.

    Given that the NRA has issued A ratings to almost 2/3 of the current house and senate members, the reality seems to be hitting the White House that any outright ban on whole classes of guns is not going to fly in Congress.

    Since Executive Orders can only appply to regulation of matters that fall under the exclusive juristiction of the Federal government, that route is limited as well. But one area that does appear to be open to the Executive Order route is closing the so-called “gun show loophole” and possibly requireing a background check for even private party transfers.

    The central problem that I see is that Congresspeople on both sides of the aisle are under pressure to be seen to be “doing something”. Since the only talk right now is of gun bans, “doing something” = “banning guns”. I think the #1 thing we can do is to encourage our reps to SLOW down the process and look at the real cause of these school shootings: Violent, ,entally ill people who cannot currently be put into treatment becuase that is seen as violating their rights.

    Unfortunately, a magazine capacity ban looks fairly likely at this point. But again, this would have to come via Congress, so it could be stalled, watered down, or maybe even halted.

    A rekindling of the 94 assult weapons ban is still possible, and IMO this might be the best “bad” result if we have to make a choice. That ban was so flawed that it changed nothing in practical terms. And as it was set up, it had a sunset clause after which its effectiveness had to be questioned and so it died on the vine.

    Grouse

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #128775

    This along with so many other political issues continues to make my head spin. Very few in the political arena and media venues are speaking up to address the entire problem. Politics as usual. You have how many millions of people that live an urban life style that don’t share our (sportsmen in general) activities. But because they are the majority of voters, politicians will bow to they’re false fears.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #128776

    The higher and denser the population becomes the more problems there will be. There’s no getting around that.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #128810

    Been involved in a few debates through PM on a couple forums. Obviously the CT shooting is most current and on everyone’s mind. But I am shocked at how many people have brought up the Columbine “massacre” Did everyone forget that was a screwed up failure by those two kids??? Had they made/detonated the near 100 pipe bombs correctly – hundreds would have been killed. Just another day of being pissed because we live in a world where every detail is hand picked and taken out of context to persuade the masses.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #128812

    Not many like to let the facts get in the way of a good debate.

    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #128836

    Quote:


    The central problem that I see is that Congresspeople on both sides of the aisle are under pressure to be seen to be “doing something”. Since the only talk right now is of gun bans, “doing something” = “banning guns”. I think the #1 thing we can do is to encourage our reps to SLOW down the process and look at the real cause of these school shootings: Violent, ,entally ill people who cannot currently be put into treatment becuase that is seen as violating their rights.


    Well said!!

    eyejacker
    Hudson, Wisconsin
    Posts: 1890
    #128854

    The 2012 murders in Chicago, with some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, exceeded US soldiers killed in Afghanistan. There were 405 coalition deaths in Afghanistan in 2012. 310 of the 405 deaths were Americans. Meanwhile in Chicago there were 532 homicides in 2012. See what you can accomplish with more gun control! I, for the life of me, can’t begin to comprehend why you clear thinking Patriots are resisting more gun control!

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