Thermocell… Airlines….

  • impalapower
    Madison, WI
    Posts: 939
    #671631

    I think the news media hurts the economy. Most everything today is negative. The housing market in the Madison area is down, but not what it is at a national level. But the local news brings up the national level, thus, hurting the local level. They make things sound worse than what they are and they scare folks off and then the consumer holds their money.

    Considering the news stations are losing money due to the internet, thats just a change, someday the internet will lose money to something else.

    Mudshark
    LaCrosse WI
    Posts: 2973
    #671634

    It also could mean that they are not putting out as good of product that their consumers are demanding now….

    absolute2ks
    Chippewa Falls, WI
    Posts: 674
    #671637

    Quote:


    I think the news media hurts the economy. Most everything today is negative. The housing market in the Madison area is down, but not what it is at a national level. But the local news brings up the national level, thus, hurting the local level. They make things sound worse than what they are and they scare folks off and then the consumer holds their money.

    Considering the news stations are losing money due to the internet, thats just a change, someday the internet will lose money to something else.



    Amen.

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #671660

    Paul has done some things to shoot himself in the foot too though. He’s had some “mild” exchanges with co-workers on the air, he’s made some lousy, “maverick” forecasts, and frankly, I’ve lost confidence in his abilities to lead the meteorlogical news front. Dave Dahl doesn’t get it right every time either but he’s good at stating “this might happen this way so be prepared for either”. My point with Dave is that he’s not pushy and insistant that he knows anything for certain. But he’s one of the highest paid weathermen in town! See……”DAVE SELLS”. Paul seems to have lost this. One day he’s “telling” everyone that “this” is what’s going to shake down and the next he’ll state that all the computers have differing predictions so nobody knows. WHAT??? You should know the range of possibilities and cover them! Paul’s job is to sell weather coverage accuracy and lately (for the forecasts I’ve seen, that is), I don’t think he’s been doing that very well. His foot has been in his mouth far too often and while they call it “internt interference” to quiet the fan base, I think it’s entirely beleivable that Paul just has been a good salesman. IF the internet hurts the TV casts so much, the stations would stop putting all the stories and up-to-the-minute-updates on websites! They’re there to make money and they still need broadcasters for pod/web casts so I believe it comes down to each person’s ability to sell the news! If you don’t captivate an audience, the sponsors get poor returns on the investment and pull out. THe stations then have to either reformulate or acquire new talent.

    I’ll tell you this much, Paul won’t return to Chicago!!! That market tore that boy up!!!

    superstar
    Breezy Point, MN
    Posts: 207
    #671663

    Bottom line is viewership, Paul Douglas spats about all this global warming nonsense with Don Shelby, and most people know he’s lying about it, or is to caught up in the Global Warming nonsense that he’s oblivious to the facts. I for one can’t stand to hear him, so, I along with others have tuned him out for good.

    rivereyes
    Osceola, Wisconsin
    Posts: 2782
    #671670

    as far as is it a sign of things to come.. yeah.. probably… the news has inflated our success for too long.. and now on the back side they might be part of the problem with consumer confidence thus accelerating the decline… either way though you might deny it… the economy is hurting bad from a number of sources… can it recover? well.. sure it can… but no one knows if it will be easy or hard…. I just hope the loss of jobs does not spread too far and wide.. I feel for those who are engulfed.. most are just victims of something they cant control… and as far as that goes.. I think Paul Douglas was that as well…. if some figure he deserved it.. well.. I just dont know how you can make that call…. I for one have no idea… but I do know its no fun to loose a job…..

    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #671684

    I think it hurts the economy some too but not a whole bunch. It may scare a few people into holding onto thier money but most people who have some to spend know thier local economys situation and know weather to spend or not. Theres alway going to be some who loose thier jobs but its a small percentage compared to those who have good jobs. Here in town the houseing market has gone from really really good to really good only because of the hard winter we had, now its spring again. Thier building here everywhere and our town has a huge manufacturing base with loads of other very stable busineses. I think its more of a local area situation when theres an economy turn down as far as I can figure, you couldn’t tell the economys on a down turn around here, things are good and thier hiring everywhere.

    We just had a huge company move into town here a few years ago thats called Clipper Windmills and they make those big huge high tech. windmills that you see in those big windfarms. I talked to a guy the other day that says thier expanding so much that he said tell your grandkids that we’ll hire them when they grow up and look for a job. He said thier booked for the next 10 years in sales of multi-million dollar windmills that are being sold all over the world and they have built on twice since they moved in with 10’s of thousands of new sq. footage in manufacturing floor space. Im sure it all depends on the local economy and where it is. The hype in the news inpart has some truth and it does scare a few into holding onto thier money but in general I think the economy is basically good, it would be awhole lot better if oil prices came down to where they should be for everything that has to be moved by truck.

    danno
    Central MN
    Posts: 323
    #671718

    Thankfully he’s gone. If you want the weather, go to http://www.weather.gov and get the real weather, not the over dramatized version from the weather terrorist. If you want the weather you WANT to hear, then go to KARE11 where everything is roses all the time. They’ll give you the forecast that the people want, not necessarily the actual weather. They’re the MN feel-good channel no matter if it’s weather or news. Gets real sickening after a while.

    Douglas was horrible. Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya. If CBS wants to do everyone a favor they’d give Shelby the boot too. A million dollar salary for fluff and global warming lies and hype? Hit the streets Don.

    sliderfishn
    Blaine, MN
    Posts: 5432
    #671721

    I sure hope that someone fires me from my job after selling my other company for 45 million.

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4517
    #671822

    I talked w/ Dave Dahl on Friday, he is my weather guy because he plays poker at Canterbury (not well I might add).

    He also doesnt believe in global warming and isnt afraid to call it what it is, a hoax.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22635
    #671850

    Me thinks he is “bluffing” again….

    big G

    Castaway
    Otsego,MN
    Posts: 1573
    #671853

    When it comes to news the internet is gaining speed and papers and the local news are getting left behind.Not sure how this effects the economy but it is shifting dollars in a different direction.I hardly even pick up a newspaper anymore.Im even thinking about canceling my Sunday paper.Im not even sure why they still send me 10 phone books a year as I look that up on line too.Seems like a waste of paper to me

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #671861

    Think about it…He is a weather guy. A personality that was pretty much worn out around these parts. I think ‘CCO was/is just cutting their losses, and decided to dump him. Look what is happening…There is more talk about them right now for dumping him than they got when he was there!

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22635
    #671870

    Personally, I couldn’t stand him when he was at KARE11, my news station of choice. I was glad when he left for greener pastures. Then he pops back up at ‘CCO, I never tuned to 4, just because I think it’s too blah….. and he just reinforced that for me.

    big G

    hoistafish1
    Long Prairie,MN
    Posts: 402
    #671876

    I kinda like Sven just because its fun to say his name lol

    Brad Juaire
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 6101
    #671899

    One time I saw Paul Douglas and his family at the airport waiting at the baggage claim area. They were missing a suitcase or something and we was upset about it. Then one of the kids wet their pants without a diaper on. I was laughing pretty hard by now and he gave me a dirty look.

    Castaway
    Otsego,MN
    Posts: 1573
    #671908

    Kind if ironic to be wrong most of the time and still have a job anyway

    hookem
    Hastings,Minn.
    Posts: 1027
    #671912

    I personally don’t like channel 4 news. He was one of the reasons with all of his stupid terms he dreamed up like “snizzle”. Don “arrogant” Shelby is another.
    Never like to see anyone lose their job, but I think he will survive on his millions.

    whittsend
    Posts: 2389
    #206527

    Can I take a Thermocell (with refill packs) on an airplane?

    Anyone know?

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22635
    #82136

    I would think, since you can take butane lighters, in your stowed luggage, I don’t see why not. Carry on.. no way.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #82138

    I do not know for sure, but I agree with G. I’d call them to confirm. The problem is getting trustworthy info Joe Customer Service…..

    dennisdalan
    St Cloud, MN
    Posts: 974
    #82139

    From Delta Airlines website. Not sure of your airline but I’m guessing all will be similar. Worth a phone call.

    Good Luck!

    Flammable Liquids or Solids

    The specific rules for carrying flammable liquids are as follows:

    •A fuel lighter is permitted in your pocket or in carry-on baggage only

    •Up to two lighters are allowed in your checked baggage if they are properly enclosed in a U.S. Department of Transportation approved case

    •Lighters without fuel are allowed as checked or carry-on baggage

    •Lighter refills, fuels (such as gasoline or Sterno cans), paints, stains, lubricants, and “strike-anywhere” matches are not allowed

    •One regular matchbook is permitted in your pocket as long as it isn’t the “strike anywhere” matches

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    Fuel Cell Systems

    •Portable electronic devices (i.e. cameras, cellular phones, laptop computers, and camcorders) powered by fuel cell systems, and not more than two spare fuel cell cartridges per passenger when transported in carry-on baggage.

    •No more than two spare fuel cell cartridges maybe carried by a passenger.

    •Fuel cell systems containing fuel and fuel cell cartridges including spare cartridges are permitted in carry-on baggage only.

    •Fuel cell cartridges may not be refillable by the user. Refueling the fuel cell systems is not permitted except that the installation of a spare cartridge is allowed.

    •Each fuel cell cartridge and system must be durably marked by the manufacturer with the wording: “APPROVED FOR CARRIAGE IN AIRCRAFT CABIN ONLY”.

    whittsend
    Posts: 2389
    #82145

    Called the Canadian version of TSA…

    He said butane was definately not allowed on Canadian flights. (i.e. Thermacell refills) The only lighter type thing they allow is ONE non-refillable bic-type lighter per person. Any and all other flamable liquid / flamable liquid containers aren’t allowed.

    He also said that anything with butane RESIDUE (i.e. a thermocell device that we used while hunting), would not be allowable back on an airplane in Canada.

    So basically, we can take a new unit without any butane or refills (we would have to find a place to buy butane out there), but cannot bring that unit back once we use it.

    Looks like the Thermacell is staying home, I don’t really want to tangle with the TSA or CATSA…

    Bug netting and maybe topical repellent might have to do???

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #82146

    You probably don’t have time now, but could you fed ex it??

    whittsend
    Posts: 2389
    #82147

    Also found out that the knife I just bought for this trip (replaces a really nice Kershaw knife that I “misplaced”), is borderline illegal.

    While technically not illegal as far as I can tell, the wording of the law is very fuzzy regarding assisted opening knives. Its definately not a switchblade, and I consider the design very mainstream. Apparently, Canada does not. My Kershaw had the assist spring, and it was very handy for one hand operation…

    But….

    Not going to take the chance of getting arrested over an extra spring….

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22635
    #82148

    Where is your hunt in Canada ???? If it is with an outfitter, they may have thermacells already

    dennisdalan
    St Cloud, MN
    Posts: 974
    #82150

    Might want to check with your outfitter, some I know in Canada have refills available for purchase. I have some friends that have brought in a new appliance and just left it with the outfitter after the hunt. They are fairly cheap.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #82151

    Great point, possibly consider it as part of the “tip” to the guide also.

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #82152

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    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #82157

    You bet Rob, on my bear hunt last year in the land of many mosquitos, the elimitick performed pretty well. It wasn’t a full-on disappearance of the things, but it definitely irritated them and they eventually left after about 5 minutes. It could’ve been because of the thickness of the button down elimitick shirt I was wearing, but they definitely did not continue to try and harass me!

    Joel

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